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 tofutiger
  
Location: College Station, TX
Gender: Male
The pelagic argosy sights land
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< on 1/17/2013 6:19 AM >
|  | | | What are the pro's and con's of exploring at night vs. day?
"And it was, though more unutterable, like the crumbling away of two little heaps of finest sand, or dust, or ashes, of unequal size, but diminishing together as it were in ratio, if that means anything, and leaving behind them, each in its own stead, the blessedness of absence." |
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Steed
      
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| |  | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 1 on 1/17/2013 6:32 AM >
| | | | They're pretty obvious.
At night you have the cover of darkness, which makes it a bit harder for you to be seen. You probably need to bring a flashlight, which can also increase your chance of being seen because a guard is more likely to notice moving lights at night than just some person in daylight. There are also fewer people around at night, which matters if you're going into a construction site that's active during the day.
Of course during daytime the increased visibility makes photography a lot easier and drastically reduces the chance of injury since you can see where you're going. Plus if you are caught, it looks a lot less suspicious.
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LetTheRaineFall
Location: NE Texas - Dallas area
Gender: Female
wait...what?
| | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 2 on 1/17/2013 3:07 PM >
| | | | Aren't the chances of running into a homeless person or someone higher at night? I nearly went exploring the other night but I'm terrified I'm going to run into a crackhead or someone shooting up or something
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StarFruitAttack
Location: Burlington, VT
| |  | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 3 on 1/17/2013 3:49 PM >
| | | | There was this place in MD that I use to explore all the time. I would go during Dusk. Easy to get in and not be seen/heard by the ONE guard and then once it did get dark the place was amaaaazing to poke around. Then again, there was never threat of hobos in that area.
But late afternoon/early evening is the best in my personal opinion.
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Weirdlig
Gender: Female
| | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 4 on 1/17/2013 4:23 PM >
| | | | Flash removes all depth from most photos. If you want to shoot better you need to learn to use light, so night poses its obvious problem. High exposures and light play can work for low light, but I can't imagine having the patience to explore that way.
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EsseXploreR
Location: New Jersey
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 5 on 1/17/2013 6:03 PM >
| | | | It really all depends on what your exploring. I prefer buildings, so going at night is just pointless. The photo's don't come out as well, the flashlight factor, noise travels further, etc... Actually, one of the only 2 times I got caught was because the person I was with refused to turn off his flashlight after I told him to repeatedly to do so. I used to go at night with my friends when we were younger to get drunk and smoke weed at places. Now that i'm older, I don't do that stuff in buildings anymore. Most of the "ghost hunters" I know go at night, most explorers go during the day.
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Tombs
Location: MD
| | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 6 on 1/17/2013 6:36 PM >
| | | | Since no one else has mentioned this yet I'll throw it in. If you are doing a lot of night exploring pick up a flashlight that has a good red setting to reduce visibility. This will not make you invisible of course, but it does help. Here's the one I use:
http://www.amazon....rds=red+flashlight
really a bunch of rats in a trench coat |
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Astro
 
Usually naked
Location: The Delta Quadrant
Gender: Male
Resistance is Futile
| | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 7 on 1/17/2013 8:30 PM >
| | | | Posted by Weirdling
Flash removes all depth from most photos. If you want to shoot better you need to learn to use light, so night poses its obvious problem. High exposures and light play can work for low light, but I can't imagine having the patience to explore that way.
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[02:33:56] <Valkyre> Astro your whole life is ruled by the sentence ' life is better without clothes on'
[22:16:00] <DSomms> it was normal until astro got here
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Tombs
Location: MD
| | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 8 on 1/17/2013 8:39 PM >
| | | | Something else to keep in mind is that if you are draining in an area you haven't been before it is best to do it during the day. In the dark of a drain / sewer even the faintest light is noticeable, so if you are lost you will have an easier time trying to find a way out if you can detect light up ahead or behind you, whether it is coming through grates or vents or whatever. Of course this really only applies to large, complex drain systems where there is a possibility for getting lost in the first place, but it is a good rule to follow in general. Being able to gauge the distance to the nearest exit is always a good thing.
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 9 on 1/18/2013 12:17 AM >
| | | | Posted by LetTheRaineFall
Aren't the chances of running into a homeless person or someone higher at night? I nearly went exploring the other night but I'm terrified I'm going to run into a crackhead or someone shooting up or something
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Oh yeah, that's certainly true in my experience.
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Tombs
Location: MD
| | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 10 on 1/18/2013 12:31 AM >
| | | | Posted by LetTheRaineFall
Aren't the chances of running into a homeless person or someone higher at night? I nearly went exploring the other night but I'm terrified I'm going to run into a crackhead or someone shooting up or something
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Your odds are higher, but honestly most of the people you run into are not all that bad, and even a lot of the potentially dangerous ones can be diffused through offering a cigarette or just being friendly. It also depends on where you are exploring. I can't even tell you how many people I've run into shooting up or already off their tits on heroin in Baltimore, but out on more rural sites it has never been a problem for me. There's actually a fairly good tutorial on here that covers the topic:
http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=88759
[last edit 1/18/2013 12:34 AM by Tombs - edited 1 times]
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StarFruitAttack
Location: Burlington, VT
| | | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 12 on 1/18/2013 12:13 PM >
| | | | Posted by heinrick
Scouting by night.
Exploring/photos by day.
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Wouldn't it be more difficult to see dangers/risks during the night? You wouldn't get a full picture of the place. Most areas look completely different during different times of day.
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CatAndTie
Location: Southeastern PA
Gender: Male
LifeInDecay. com
| | | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 13 on 1/18/2013 12:31 PM >
| | | | When we first were getting into exploring, my friends and I started our trips at night without any focus on photography... it was more about the thrill and rush of sneaking into old hospitals and insane asylums. It was creepy and fun to sneak around with security driving around, and almost getting busted, hiding in the dark woods and running from tree to tree.
We even shot a short psychological horror movie at P-hurst one night... that was an experience trying to focus on shots while hearing weird noises that would shut everyone up for a minute or two just to determine we were still alone, lol.
Buuut, then we realized that, "hey... we can shoot better video/pictures during the day!!" But honestly, I still sometimes like the thrill of going at night just for the fun factor.
As a previous poster said, if you get caught during night there is no real excuss... nothing "good" in the eyes of cops/security happens after 11pm at night.
"Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore." - Andre Gide |
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LetTheRaineFall
Location: NE Texas - Dallas area
Gender: Female
wait...what?
| | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 14 on 1/18/2013 2:38 PM >
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Yeah, I saw that thread ages ago; one of the first ones I read. Great thread, that one. I still can't help but be a little anxious of running into a crazy axe murderer or something at night... especially in the shithole town I live in, hahaha
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Tombs
Location: MD
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<Reply # 15 on 1/18/2013 6:53 PM >
| | | | You honestly don't need to be too anxious - alert, yes - but not anxious. Especially if you are running with a partner, which you should be. The town I grew up in had (and continues to have) a serious meth problem. In fact, a house not far from where I did some of my first exploring actually exploded from a poorly set-up lab being left unattended the same summer I started wondering around. I have had a number of interactions with strange, sometimes hostile people in the run-down periphery of my town, but I have always come out unscathed by simply erring on the side of caution. When someone seems on edge or nervous, I smile and leave. Same goes for an expo site. Memorize the warning signs of drug labs, grow ops, and gangs. When you see those things, leave, or at least be extra careful. As far as axe murderers go I think you'll be OK.
The risk of dangerous situations comes with this hobby. Given enough time you WILL run into someone or something that you are uncomfortable with - you just have to be prepared to handle it when it comes and not lose your shit at the first sign of trouble.
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LetTheRaineFall
Location: NE Texas - Dallas area
Gender: Female
wait...what?
| | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 16 on 1/18/2013 9:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by Tombs
You honestly don't need. . .
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Yeah, you're right. Thanks.
In the end, it probably isn't really too much to fear. You guys do a good job talking about meth labs and their... mad scientists? like they're something out of Chainsaw Massacre though; I guess it all just messes with my head in the darker sides of town at night.
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TRUE
Location: Nor-Cal
Gender: Male
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be..."
| |  | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 17 on 1/19/2013 3:36 PM >
| | | | I go in at night & during the day. It really depends on the location. I've been a part of this community for a year and a half now and exploring all my life. There was only one time there were people where I was exploring, that weren't with our group or security or a cop. It was when I took my 12 year old son & his friend to a spot. We were there for just a minute before my sons friend said he saw someone. My son & I didn't, so we kept going. About thirty seconds later we hear the sweet sounds of homeless people having sex echo throughout the abandonment. We giggle about it and move on. An hour or so later we run into two men, a woman, and a dog. They were nice, but that was only in response to our kind respectful attitude. He could have easily set that dog on us or pulled out some knives.
Remember that we explore ABANDONMENT! Usually no one is there, but that sometimes you're in someones home, uninvited. Remember, they aren't suppose to be there either. Above all else, have fun!!!
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ubersecret
Location: Massachusetts/Ann Arbor, MI
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 18 on 1/20/2013 2:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by TRUE
It was when I took my 12 year old son & his friend to a spot.
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Isn't 12 is a little young for UE?
But then again, I guess it depends on the location.
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TRUE
Location: Nor-Cal
Gender: Male
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be..."
| | | Re: Night or Day?
<Reply # 19 on 1/20/2013 1:49 PM >
| | | | Posted by ubersecret
Isn't 12 is a little young for UE?
But then again, I guess it depends on the location.
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Precisely. It's all about the location. One of my exploring buddies told me once that I was the best Dad in the world for taking my son to certain places that we go. I was exploring old barns in diapers as well, so perhaps my perception is a bit bias.
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