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 Myrkur
   
Location: San Francisco, CA
Gender: Male
Explore before it's gone! R.I.P: Ringwood Manor + Whitby Psych
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< on 6/21/2004 10:42 PM >
|  | | | Is there anything better than using a walkie-talkie on your infiltrations? They can help you listen in on other conversations and even let you warn your buddy that he is about to be seen by a lone security guard (or a crazed homeless person).
Personally, I use a common Cobra walkie talkie, it gets the job done without costing too much money, and I got it @ Costco (in Ajax, ON) for less than 100 bucks.
What do you guys use, if you use one at all?
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r0sie
   
Resident Locksmith
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 1 on 6/21/2004 11:50 PM >
|  | | | Well, a FRS radio is 500millawatts, really, if it comes to personal safety, it isn't enough, its clownshoes! A good Kenwood or Motorola commercial series will have 5 watts and a much better reciever. They also take a beating like no tomorrow. A good set of accessories (speaker mics, earpices, spare batteries and solidly bombproof cases) are a great plus. I really don't like using a scanner for most infiltrations, A) It is a criminal offence b ) you look like a wanker c) It is rather destracting, however there are many times that I would use a scanner, or program the sites freqs into a rig (as to not look so silly as having a scanner!)
latah
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hax0r
| |  | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 3 on 6/22/2004 2:10 AM >
| | | | Motorola's business walkie-talkies are a good choice. they have a better range then regular frs radios and are much stronger. they also have very few controls so you don't need to be an electronics engineer to use them. Try searching ebay and see about picking up a couple used units since that's going to be much cheaper then buying them new. For determining the site's security radio frequency bring a scanner if it's small enough. I don't know where scanning is criminal but here in this part of the states it isn't. or if you're really lucky the site may be using the same motorola radios as you.
btw, these units run on the same frequency as McDonalds'/burger King's intercom system. so you can order hamburgers and fries from 3 miles away!
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Viper
Location: Vancouver, BC Canada
Gender: Male
Trespassing On!
| |  | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 4 on 6/22/2004 3:41 AM >
|  | | | For most situations, inexpensive FRS radios are the best way to go. The range is not as good as more expensive radios, but if your team is in one building you should be okay. If stealth is an issue, invest in headsets. I just got two Cobra radios. I have a headset for one and I am working on getting another. Also, I believe Motorola radios are not 100% compatible with some other radios on the market. A friend has a Motorola and we had trouble communicating, and a while back at a local UE meet we had trouble communicating with someone who, I believe, also had a Motorola.
Earth, the world's most dangerous planet!
"The will to do, the soul to dare." -Sir Walter Scott |
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Fat Tony
Noble Donor
Location: Regina
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 5 on 6/22/2004 4:04 AM >
| | | | Posted by hax0r
I don't know where scanning is criminal but here in this part of the states it isn't.
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Scanning is illegal when it is used to facilitate the commision of another crime, at least around here.
[last edit 6/22/2004 4:04 AM by Fat Tony - edited 1 times]
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Mark
 
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 6 on 6/22/2004 4:06 AM >
| | | | Depends on the bands Viper. Not all motorolas run on the UHF freq of FRS. However most of my sabers do. Look do you need SUPER radios.... NOPE. However one taste of a saber, kenwood, or other higher end radio and you will be a ebay junkie for stuff. Ask Exkaliber about that shit and me. However you need to be able to program them etc. For you average guys dont get them. Its a waste unless your like me and go out 2-10 times a week (not just UEing but fucking around in woods etc).
Also lasty for scanning. You can program some Motorola type radios to set coper freqs. Make it one of the many. Listen in and boom cops coming call your buds. Also when a cop picks it up unless hes bright and check all the channels your all on FRS freqs. However as Exkaliber stated using any communications device is commiting a secondary offense or worse.
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"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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Fat Tony
Noble Donor
Location: Regina
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 7 on 6/22/2004 4:07 AM >
| | | | I have a question. With these commercial radios, do you need a license at all fro the frequency ranges? Or is this, along with UE, kind of *ahem* grey area?
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Servo
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 8 on 6/22/2004 4:33 AM >
| | | | Posted by Fat Tony
With these commercial radios, do you need a license at all fro the frequency ranges?
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Nope, black and white wrong. I can't speak for Canada (although I think the laws are about the same), but in the US trasmitting over half a watt on the FRS frequencies is illegal. The radios that Mark is talking about transmit at 4.5-5 watts generally. You can trasmit higher power on SOME of these frequencies since they are shared with GMRS, but using this band is supposed to require a license.
However, much like exploring a totally abandoned building, the risk is usually very low of any bad reprocussions actually occuring. Just don't do anything stupid like programming the radios to transmit on police band...
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Mancubus
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 9 on 6/22/2004 4:51 AM >
| | | | If you were hardcore you'd invest in a tri band transciever, plus a HAM technicians license at least! ;)
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scourge
Location: United States
Gender: Male
strive
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 10 on 6/22/2004 5:23 AM >
| | | | You dont need to be hardcore to get a tech license, I got an Extra license 
However ham radio comms is not a good idea for UE ops, because you are required to ID yourself every 10 minutes on ham freqs. You need not say your name, only your assigned call sign, but it is very easy to look you up from your call sign.
The upside is you can use as much power as you want, in the states up to 1500 watts. Of course there is no such thing as a 1500 watt handheld
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Servo
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 11 on 6/22/2004 5:24 AM >
| | | | Posted by scourge
The upside is you can use as much power as you want, in the states up to 1500 watts. Of course there is no such thing as a 1500 watt handheld
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Nor would you want to be holding onto it... or anywhere near it...
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Myrkur
Location: San Francisco, CA
Gender: Male
Explore before it's gone! R.I.P: Ringwood Manor + Whitby Psych
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 12 on 6/22/2004 8:19 PM >
| | | | Can you find the security freq. just by scanning thru all the frequencies, without having to go out and buy a scanner? I think it would be cool to listen in on their little chats, but it's only worth it to me if I can do all of that using only my walkie talkie.
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Conundrum
Criticón
Location: GTA
Gender: Male
Now Entering The Bling Chamber
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 13 on 6/22/2004 10:44 PM >
| | | | Posted by myrkur
Can you find the security freq. just by scanning thru all the frequencies, without having to go out and buy a scanner? I think it would be cool to listen in on their little chats, but it's only worth it to me if I can do all of that using only my walkie talkie.
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to find security frequencies, you have to do research, and usualy find them online, now you cant listen to them on walkie talkies, but with commercial radios, you should be able to, as long as the frequency the security is using is in the 400mhz spectrum. a scanner isnt exactly a "scanner", unless you get a realy expensive one, you have to program in the frequencys using the touchpad on the front of the scanner to listen to whats on that frequency.
Conundrum
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Fat Tony
Noble Donor
Location: Regina
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 14 on 6/23/2004 12:46 AM >
| | | | RadioShack here had a list of frequencies that you could get a photocopy of if you asked. It listed all the major things around here (City Police, RCMP repeaters, CP-Rail, taxi, fire, EMS, etc...)
Not actually fat anymore |
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 15 on 6/23/2004 1:37 AM >
| | | | The net is a far better source of information for freqs. http://www.radioreference.com is the clearance home. Just sign up and boom your connected with most everything.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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Fat Tony
Noble Donor
Location: Regina
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 16 on 6/23/2004 5:19 AM >
| | | | What was radioreference called before? I signed up when it was called something else...
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SnArF
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 17 on 6/23/2004 5:43 AM >
| | | | Listen, I have the perfect radio that you need to buy. It's cheap, durable as hell, and the range is about 5 miles on them. Get a set of Motorola Talkabout Radios. I payed 30$ or so, I've dropped mine in water twice, and accidently let it sit there for a minute. I thought I broke it for second, but after turning it on and off once, it returned to normal. You can scan, get weather frequencys and all, I've used mine on explorations several times. Get that set, and you will be happy you did. I know I am.
-SnArF
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 18 on 6/23/2004 1:41 PM >
| | | | Talkabouts claim 5 miles but you have to understand that the range is based on lab values. Esentially radio waves in the vacum of space will get 5 miles. Also the better radios have the ability to cut through most buildings due to there power. Personally if you want to go cheap FRS try audiovoxs new 10 mile range radios. It has all the special features plus weather channels etc.
FRS=short range little penetration LOW COSTS
Commercial= longer range high pentration even through the ground sometimes and SUPER HIGH COSTS
Some mod lock this and stop the hair spliting and let the orginal poster decide for himself.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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SnArF
| | Re: 2 Way Radios
<Reply # 19 on 6/23/2004 3:09 PM >
| | | | Well, I've never needed more than a one-mile range for exploration, because I never go to sites bigger than 5 miles, so I dont see why all that power is needed. Plus, Motorolas are really durable and GMRS capible.
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