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Poll Question:
Should mods have to post a reason for locking a thread? | | Total Votes: | 68 | | 1. Yes | 48 | 70.59 % | 
| | 2. No | 20 | 29.41 % |
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NoSuchPerson
      
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
 |  | Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
< on 6/17/2004 1:24 PM >
|  | | | Who thinks mods should have to post a reason for locking a thread, much the same as when they delete a thread?
-Ex
[last edit 6/17/2004 1:24 PM by NoSuchPerson - edited 1 times]
Unit calling radio say again? |
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el nerdo
   
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| |  | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 1 on 6/17/2004 1:26 PM >
| | | | I'm sure our mighty overlord will lock this, or delete this....
But that would be contradictory to what he just said.... seeing that this is a "waste of his time".
Seeing that it's such a "waste of his time", I'm sure he'll just IGNORE this thread and allow people to speak their opinions.
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 2 on 6/17/2004 1:27 PM >
| | | | Well, it's not a waste of his time - just don't read the thread...give it a week or so, and let the results speak for themselves. If the majority says "Yes", I think you should stay true to your word and implement the feature. If the majority says no, then I'll back off and admit defeat.
-Ex
Unit calling radio say again? |
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el nerdo
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 3 on 6/17/2004 1:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
Well, it's not a waste of his time - just don't read the thread...give it a week or so, and let the results speak for themselves. If the majority says "Yes", I think you should stay true to your word and implement the feature. If the majority says no, then I'll back off and admit defeat.
-Ex
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Wouldn't that be nice. Of course, there's no reason 'someone' couldn't get into the MySQL and mess with the numbers, is there?
So how about it, Av? A real vote, transparent and democratic?
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 4 on 6/17/2004 1:30 PM >
| | | | I don't think Av would stoop to that level. If he did, it'd completly destory any credibility and trust I have for him, and I'm quite sure that goes for most other people on here as well.
Anyway, to keep this back on topic...
-Ex
Unit calling radio say again? |
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el nerdo
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 5 on 6/17/2004 1:37 PM >
| | | | To keep this on topic:
I think mods should NOT be allowed to vote on this, as their opinion could be construed as a conflict of interest.
Of course, nothing can stop them from voting but their own honour and morality.
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 6 on 6/17/2004 2:58 PM >
|  | | | Personally, my opinion (which I believe a mod is still entitled to have, unless it's in the secret mods codebook that certain forum members have...) is that it makes no difference to me. Wouldn't bother me to do it, or not, either way is fine with me.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Avatar-X
 
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 7 on 6/17/2004 3:17 PM >
| | | | Why must there be another thread for this issue? There already was one.
There is no point in coding a feature that would force mods to enter a reason. Mods are supposed to post a reason before locking the thread. So far, most of the locked threads I have seen have had a reason posted. I don't see what the problem is.
-av
huskies - such fluff. |
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nostra-YOUPPI!
Umpire
Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
Bonsoir et cest partie
| | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 8 on 6/17/2004 3:20 PM >
| | | | a reason is nice but hey this isnt a democracy. this is just a forum to discuss UE if your not happy go post on MLB boards where the mods are real nazis then you will be back in a flash.
Montreal Expos 1969-2004 Forever Proud Lets Keep The Dream Alive |
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 9 on 6/17/2004 3:42 PM >
| | | | I think it's despicable that you would accuse me of modifying the results of a poll to match my views.
I have always been open to suggestions and critique about features on this board, but when you start accusing me of tampering with a poll because I may not agree (which I never said was the case), that's when it starts to get really nasty. I'm surprised at you guys for even considering such a notion.
There should be a seperation between the board and myself. If you have a problem with the board, do not turn it into a problem with me. I run this board, but the board is not me.
huskies - such fluff. |
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Coyote-X
This member has been banned
Gender: Male
I post hunky animal versions of myself to make up for real-life shortcomings!
| | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 10 on 6/17/2004 9:11 PM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
I think it's despicable that you would accuse me of modifying the results of a poll to match my views. |
I'm not trying to piss you off or anything, but maybe people think that because we've actually seen you fudge poll numbers before. Remember the gay pride icon vote? Granted, you didn't physically change the votes, but you did misconstrue the "I don't care votes" as being on your side. No offense, but maybe that's why people don't exactly have a lot of faith in you on opinion polls.
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Cybo
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 11 on 6/17/2004 10:04 PM >
| | | | Well, since there is only Yes and No, I doubt that will happen... 
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 12 on 6/17/2004 10:32 PM >
| | | | It comes down to accountability.
I've seen numerous topics locked with nothing more than "locked" for a reason.
I'm not saying you have to code in another box or anything...just make it a policy for mods locking a topic to have to make a reply before they lock it, with the reason.
Also, with respect to mods unlocking a topic and replying to it - I think the 3 strikes and you're out rule should apply. I think the only people that can unlock a locked thread should be the person that locked it, and the administrator. Too many mods have abused this (you know who you are).
Maybe that'll be our next poll.
-Ex
Unit calling radio say again? |
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MatC
Nobler Donor
Location: ENY
Gender: Male
Accepted everywhere
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 13 on 6/17/2004 10:56 PM >
| | | | I don't think I have yet seen a thread that was locked that hadn't been made that way for a valid reason. Also, with the majority of locked threads, I could totally see it coming, with or without a mod's warning of, "keep the flaming down," or "don't post people's personal information," or whatever. I don't come close to reading all the threads here, though, so it's possible I've missed something.
The thing about unlocking a thread to make a post and then locking it again is a little irksome. I saw that happen once and although I didn't really care about that particular topic, I could see people getting annoyed about it.
Is there a set of guidelines anywhere for what mods should/shouldn't do? Not saying there should be, just wondering if there is.
-- Mat
"We shall not cease from exploration / And the end of all our exploring / Will be to arrive where we started / And know the place for the first time."
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el nerdo
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 14 on 6/17/2004 11:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
I think it's despicable that you would accuse me of modifying the results of a poll to match my views.
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I think it's despicable that you can't read what was wrote. I said the possibilty of tampering was evident, due to your command over the database.
I never said you did, nor would. All I said was that if you wanted to, you could.
Let people see that as they will.
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The Hunter
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
| | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 15 on 6/18/2004 12:16 AM >
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In the perfect world it would be nice for the mods to give reasons and explanations but this is far from the perfect world.
Second, last I checked this was AV's site put up for our use at his expense. This makes him the top puppy and the mods should answer to him. If they want to provide us with a reason for locking a thread then great but if not then so be it. If we dont like the reason or one wasnt posted then we ask AV and he can have final discision.
The bottom line is its AV's site and if we dont like the way its run then put up with it or move on. I've only been here for 4 months but from what I have seen so far everything has been quite fair.
Sorry for the broken message but my son just came in and was trying to explain why my truck needs a new exhaust and two tires. (sometimes I hate kids)
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Mike Dijital
UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA.
Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 16 on 6/18/2004 1:55 AM >
|  | | | Posted by Avatar-X
Why must there be another thread for this issue? There already was one.
There is no point in coding a feature that would force mods to enter a reason. Mods are supposed to post a reason before locking the thread. So far, most of the locked threads I have seen have had a reason posted. I don't see what the problem is.
-av
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Yeah the reason is usually
" This thread is stupid loxor "
or something like that , super valid reason I think
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 17 on 6/18/2004 1:56 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mike Dijital
Yeah the reason is usually
" This thread is stupid loxor "
or something like that , super valid reason I think
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Surprisingly, that is often the most acurate reasoning...
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Mike Dijital
UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA.
Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 18 on 6/18/2004 1:58 AM >
| | | | Granted, but just because a thread is stupid, or a few people dont like it, Why lock it, just avoid that thread. If its so stupid why lock it??? why not delete it,
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-MisfitStyle-
| | Re: Should mods have to provide a reason for locked threads?
<Reply # 19 on 6/18/2004 2:03 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mike Dijital
Granted, but just because a thread is stupid, or a few people dont like it, Why lock it, just avoid that thread. If its so stupid why lock it??? why not delete it,
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Becuase, believe it or not, keeping the thread available provides what all of you have been screaming for:
accountability
If a thread was simply deleted, I'm willing to bet that people would get even more upset than they do when their thread gets locked. If you're really curious as to why your thread got locked, PM the administrator who locked it and just ask. In my experience, as long as you're polite, they're more than willing to help you out.
"I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window."
Need help? Please use the Contact a Mod forum — I'm slow to see PMs. |
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