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 Servo
   
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<Reply # 20 on 6/17/2004 4:00 PM >
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I still say Av, and the other mods can do whatever they want..
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Well now I wouldn't go that far; mods shouldn't have free license to run amok. But to me this specific case is such a non-issue that I think it's silly we are even arguing over it...
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Raider
 
Not Gay
Location: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
<Intelligent>
| |  |  | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 21 on 6/17/2004 4:05 PM >
| | | | Posted by Servo
Well now I wouldn't go that far; mods shouldn't have free license to run amok. But to me this specific case is such a non-issue that I think it's silly we are even arguing over it...
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Well sorry I worded that one wrong. What I meant was that they should be able to post last and such. I mean if they went super nazi nobody would post anymore. So we have to find a median where mods can still be mods, and regular members will be happy without complaining. Now thats obviously easier said than done but it could be something to think about. No matter what we do though there will always be somebody who is unsatisfied, but thats life. Can't please everybody..
[13:54:15] <Agent_Skelly> Well, a friend of mine I had "benifits" with last fall was 420 lbs
[13:54:51] <Raider> Wow.... that is large.... now she doesn't crush you or anything? Not to be rude but seriously I'd suffocate
4:15:42] <bobtheallmighty> in my experiance there are very few things that are irregular when it comes to sex >_> |
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uem-Tux
Iron Wok Jan
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
UE Geek
| | |  | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 22 on 6/17/2004 4:51 PM >
|  | | | I think the "last explanatory post" thing works just fine. When I lock a thread, I usually have the last post, in which I say why I'm locking it. Av did the same thing there. There's no reason to complain.
I got some flack when I posted my opinion/contribution to a locked thread. It was deserved flack, but I don't think any of the mods have done that since I did. People called for my resignation for that!
Honestly, I think the mods do thier absolute best. I think the fact that masher is still around attests to the fact that the admin team are, as a whole, not nazis of any kind. 
Urban Exploration Montreal
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Plytheman
Location: Lawrence, Massachusetts
Obey The Deer
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 23 on 6/17/2004 5:30 PM >
| | | | Obviously this is an old topic that Nerdo likes to bring up. =P
I'm achin, I'm shakin, I'm breakin, Like Humans Do!!
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Mike Dijital
    
UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA.
Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 24 on 6/17/2004 7:31 PM >
|  | | | Nice I got to post in this one before it got locked, Why lock thread anyway ???
Good question , what are you worried about Av and other mods, A forum is a place to let people speak ,
Locking threads is stupid, who cares if a topic is dragging on , are the Mods so obsesivly compulsive over the fact of a verbal fight in a thread that is at the top of the topic list, needs to be locked and sank.
Av and Mods who get called Nazi's all the time
" You would'nt get Half the shit you get if you'd just LET IT RIDE "
LOcked threads are a weak form of censorship.
[last edit 6/17/2004 7:32 PM by Mike Dijital - edited 1 times]
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Sinister Crayon
Location: Colorado
Gender: Male
| | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 25 on 6/17/2004 8:37 PM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
I don't appreciate all the nastiness towards me here. It's possible to discuss an issue without saying that i'll fuck with the votes or that I only care about features that matter for me.
-av
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The people here know that you would never do that Av, they were just suggesting what you could do, not what you would do.
[last edit 6/17/2004 8:37 PM by Sinister Crayon - edited 1 times]
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 26 on 6/17/2004 8:46 PM >
| | | | Mike, not even you let your board run free. You run it like tyrannical child. You delete any thread that insults you and any thread that contradicts you. If you don't believe me, I have proof.
A large forum such as this one needs moderation. Without it, it would turn into anarchy.
huskies - such fluff. |
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Mike Dijital
UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA.
Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 27 on 6/17/2004 8:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
Mike, not even you let your board run free. You run it like tyrannical child. You delete any thread that insults you and any thread that contradicts you. If you don't believe me, I have proof.
A large forum such as this one needs moderation. Without it, it would turn into anarchy.
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yeah but i dont " lock threads " . the only time things needed to be deleted was when robbie went nuts.
The Panic thread is a prime example. if you didn't lock it, Panic would have posted his " Sorry " in the thread, Instead he started a whole new thread.
Why not try " modding " the thread a bit better, rather than take the Easy way and lock it.
You wouldn't have such a public outcry all the time if the things mods did wasn't so visable,
IE: a giant Lock icon next to a thread
[last edit 6/17/2004 9:00 PM by Mike Dijital - edited 2 times]
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 28 on 6/17/2004 9:03 PM >
| | | | Actually, you've deleted many threads. People have complained to me that you deleted threads in which they asked about you or your UE, and most importantly you deleted a thread in which someone asked how much your server was costing so they could know how much to donate. Deleting is much worse than locking, on the scale of "moderation".
The entire panic/steve issue should have been kept private, since it serves no real purpose to be made public. That's the simple fact of the matter.
huskies - such fluff. |
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Mike Dijital
UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA.
Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 29 on 6/17/2004 9:24 PM >
| | | | You know , how bout you actually post something on the forum , instead of puruse it for Mike Dij ammo,
Nah could'nt do that , in your head you'd be giving me the upperhand.
We would love some of Av's wisdom on our forum.
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el nerdo
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 30 on 6/17/2004 11:39 PM >
| | | | Posted by uem-Tux
I think the "last explanatory post" thing works just fine. When I lock a thread, I usually have the last post, in which I say why I'm locking it. Av did the same thing there. There's no reason to complain.
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Actually, no, that's NOT what Av did, actually, and that's the bone of contention here.
Av unlocked a thread in order to get a message in, which has been covered before, and was agreed to be not that kosher.
Hence the request that the locking moderator post a message when something was locked.
Av unlocked, replied, then relocked.
I watched it happen yesterday morning.
Please get the story right.
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Servo
| | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 31 on 6/18/2004 12:55 AM >
| | | | Posted by el nerdo
Av unlocked, replied, then relocked.
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So he felt he should explain, rather than just let it hang there. If no one had explained, you wouldn't have been able to type fast enough to make a thread about how the nazi mods had locked something without explaining why. It's a no-win for the mods.
| Av is one of my closest friends IRL, and vice-versa. I rag on him because we both find it amusing. |
I know Av in real life too, but I don't feel the need to debase him every time an opportunity presents itself... maybe it seems like good-natured ribbing to you but it seems to be getting taken much more seriously by everyone else.
Mah, this is such a non-issue I can't believe I wasted part of my keyboard's supposed 10-million-keystroke lifespan on it...
[last edit 6/18/2004 12:56 AM by Servo - edited 1 times]
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el nerdo
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 32 on 6/18/2004 2:01 AM >
| | | | Posted by Servo
So he felt he should explain, rather than just let it hang there. If no one had explained, you wouldn't have been able to type fast enough to make a thread about how the nazi mods had locked something without explaining why. It's a no-win for the mods.
I know Av in real life too, but I don't feel the need to debase him every time an opportunity presents itself... maybe it seems like good-natured ribbing to you but it seems to be getting taken much more seriously by everyone else.
Mah, this is such a non-issue I can't believe I wasted part of my keyboard's supposed 10-million-keystroke lifespan on it...
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So, you know him IRL? Big deal.
I'd say Av's and my relationship go just a smidgen further than UE.
And you're WRONG. I would never had said anything if the thread wasn't unlocked and replied to.
If you don't believe, like I really give a shit.
But I've brought up the exact same thing before: mods unlocking to reply, then locking. Mods are not given that power.
The whole idea of FORCING a mod to enter a reason for locking is so shit like this doesn't happen.
It's a good idea, and would prevent this stuff from happening.
Your presumption that I "debase" Av every chance I get is also stupid.
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Servo
| | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 33 on 6/18/2004 2:08 AM >
| | | | Posted by el nerdo
So, you know him IRL? Big deal.
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Ohhh yes, let's play the Av-knowing-oneupsmanship game!
Nerdo, you make me laugh. =D Please, continue whining, I'll butt out from now on...
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Mike Dijital
UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA.
Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 34 on 6/18/2004 2:14 AM >
| | | | This is getting stupid,
Someone LOXOR
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 35 on 6/18/2004 2:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mike Dijital
Someone LOXOR |
Sadly, I was considering it while reading the last few posts between Nerdo and Servo.
Knock it off, y'all. I still maintain that there is no official rule dictating that a mod/admin can't unlock a thread to reply and relock it, regardless if the intention of their message. If you can show me where this is written, I'll shut up. Until then, stop wasting Av's time with this pointless arguement. It's already been decided that the practice is not normal, and that it was done for clarity's sake, not to get the last word on the arguement. Can we get back to discussing tunnels and abandoned buildings now? Please?
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
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uem-Tux
Iron Wok Jan
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
UE Geek
| | | | Re: Mod once again breaking their own rules
<Reply # 36 on 6/18/2004 7:58 PM >
| | | | There's been zero productive conversation here.
Locking.
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