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UER Forum > Archived UE Main > What Kirkbrides still exist? (Viewed 6460 times)
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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 40 on 6/3/2012 2:18 AM >
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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 41 on 6/3/2012 6:51 AM >
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Terrell State Hospital was originally a Kirkbride but they've managed to remoldel the Kirkbride out....it's still active but only for long term care.

It's listed on the Kirkbride site as demolished, as only a fountain exists.I love the old pictures of it. The new ones mot so much.



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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 42 on 6/3/2012 6:58 AM >
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Athens State Hospital
Buffalo State Hospital
Cherokee State Hospital
Clarinda State Hospital
Danvers State Hospital (partially demolished 2006)
Dixmont State Hospital (demolished 2006)
Fergus Falls State Hospital
Greystone Park State Hospital
Hudson River State Hospital
Independence State Hospital
Northampton State Hospital (demolished 2007)
Saint Elizabeths Hospital
Taunton State Hospital (demolished 2006/2009)
Traverse City State Hospital
Weston State Hospital
Worcester State Hospital (mostly demolished 1991/2008)

Other Kirkbride buildings

Anna, Illinois (partially demolished)
Augusta, Maine
Austin, Texas [?]
Bangor, Maine
Bolivar, Tenessee (wings demolished)
Brattleboro, Vermont
Columbia, South Carolina
Danville, Pennsylvania
Dayton, Ohio
Hopkinsville, Kentucky
Kankakee, Illinois
Middletown, Connecticut
Morganton, North Carolina
North Warren, Pennsylvania
Pendleton, Oregon
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Saint Joseph, Missouri
Saint Louis, Missouri
Saint Peter, Minnesota (wings demolished)
Salem, Oregon
Trenton, New Jersey
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Washington, DC
White Plains, New York [?]


Demolished
Baltimore, Maryland
Catonsville, Maryland
Cincinnati, Ohio [?]
Cleveland, Ohio
Columbus, Ohio
Dearborn, Michigan
Dixmont/Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Elgin, Illinois
Fulton, Missouri
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Hastings, Nebraska [?]
Indianapolis, Indiana [2]
Jackson, Mississippi
Jacksonville, Illinois
Kalamazoo, Michigan [2]
Little Rock, Arkansas
Louisville, Kentucky
Mendota, Wisconsin
Meridian, Mississippi
Mount Pleasant, Iowa
Medical Lake, Washington [?]
Napa, California
Nevada, Missouri
New York City (Brooklyn), New York
New York City (Manhattan), New York
Northampton, Massachusetts
Osawatomie, Kansas
Oshkosh, Wisconsin
Patton, California
Petersburg, Virginia
Pontiac, Michigan
Rochester, Minnesota
Santa Clara, California
Spencer, West Virginia
Talmage/Mendocino, California [?]
Taunton, Massachusetts
Terrell, Texas
Topeka, Kansas



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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 43 on 6/3/2012 10:45 AM >
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You forgot Matteawan State Hospital.

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 44 on 6/3/2012 1:22 PM >
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Indeed was a kirk.


The Kirk at CVH was never finished.

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 45 on 6/3/2012 4:12 PM >
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The Kirk at CVH was never finished.


I disagree

http://www.asylump...iddletown1889b.jpg

http://www.asylump...Middletown1913.jpg

http://www.asylump.../fb/Middletown.png
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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 46 on 6/3/2012 9:08 PM >
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Posted by McNulty


I disagree

http://www.asylump...iddletown1889b.jpg

http://www.asylump...Middletown1913.jpg

http://www.asylump.../fb/Middletown.png


Oh cool. I was always under the impression they never finished the left wing.
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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 47 on 6/4/2012 12:02 AM >
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So would you say Hudson River was not a Kirkbride since the left wing was never completed?

If you want a really unfinished Kirkbride look at Austin, Texas.
http://www.asylump...n_SH_Aerial_01.jpg


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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 48 on 6/4/2012 12:14 AM >
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Posted by McNulty
So would you say Hudson River was not a Kirkbride since the left wing was never completed?

If you want a really unfinished Kirkbride look at Austin, Texas.
http://www.asylump...n_SH_Aerial_01.jpg




Its not

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 49 on 6/7/2012 3:27 AM >
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Posted by TheVicariousVadder
You forgot Matteawan State Hospital.


I took the info from the kirkbride site.

And according to the website about the hospital/prison someone else designed it
    The Asylum for Insane Criminals opened at this site in 1892 and took the name Matteawan State Hospital the following year. New York State architect Isaac Perry, known for finishing work on the New York State Capitol, designed the main hospital building at Matteawan.

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 50 on 6/7/2012 3:37 AM >
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Its not


According to the kirkbride site, the main building is a Kirkbride??
And your asylum projects website calls it one too...
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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 51 on 6/7/2012 6:43 PM >
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Posted by McNulty
So would you say Hudson River was not a Kirkbride since the left wing was never completed?

If you want a really unfinished Kirkbride look at Austin, Texas.
http://www.asylump...n_SH_Aerial_01.jpg



The Female wing was completed at Hudson. They never planned on making it as long as the original design....

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 52 on 6/7/2012 6:50 PM >
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Posted by TheVicariousVadder
You forgot Matteawan State Hospital.


Most definitely not a Kirkbride....

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 53 on 6/7/2012 10:30 PM >
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The Female wing was completed at Hudson. They never planned on making it as long as the original design....


The architect disagrees with you.
http://www.asylump...es/d/df/Hudson.jpg

They meant to complete it, they just ran out of money.

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 54 on 6/7/2012 11:30 PM >
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Posted by Mchelem


According to the kirkbride site, the main building is a Kirkbride??
And your asylum projects website calls it one too...


Kirkbrides don't exist.

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 55 on 6/8/2012 12:11 AM >
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Its not


not even close. terrell - sure. austin - no.

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 56 on 6/8/2012 12:22 PM >
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Posted by McNulty


The architect disagrees with you.
http://www.asylump...es/d/df/Hudson.jpg

They meant to complete it, they just ran out of money.


If they really wanted to extend the wing, they would have done that instead of building tons of other buildings on campus. They had money. When It was first being built the Residents of NY were really pissed off that it was over budget, but they never wanted them to stop building.

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 57 on 6/8/2012 9:40 PM >
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If they really wanted to extend the wing, they would have done that instead of building tons of other buildings on campus. They had money. When It was first being built the Residents of NY were really pissed off that it was over budget, but they never wanted them to stop building.



No, they ran out of money. By the time money was available again the kirkbride plan had fallen out of favor, so new buildings were built on the cottage plan.

It would make absolutely no sense to make one wing shorter than the other, especially the female wing. Female patient populations were at least equal, though often larger than the male populations of hospitals.

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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 58 on 6/10/2012 3:56 AM >
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Kirkbrides don't exist.


Lol, good to know. I won't waste my time looking for any then.
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Re: What Kirkbrides still exist?
<Reply # 59 on 6/14/2012 5:27 PM >
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Posted by McNulty


The architect disagrees with you.
http://www.asylump...es/d/df/Hudson.jpg

They meant to complete it, they just ran out of money.


They did not run out of money..


"This Kirkbride is somewhat unique in that one wing is shorter than the other. While some Kirkbride buildings have lost parts of wings to demolition, in the case of Hudson River this feature was planned before construction was finished. Apparently there was an expectation of fewer female patients than male patients (the Kirkbride Plan stipulated that each sex be housed in its own wing), and despite the asymmetry, the building is considered complete."

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