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http://www.bbc.co....ld-europe-16912749
"Roman Catholic leaders are in Rome for an unprecedented summit on how the church should tackle the sexual abuse of children by priests."
I'd say the best way is to create a system of trust based on unreasonable supernatural ideals, make it socially unacceptable to criticize religious organizations, make sure secrecy is maintained, and have a large well funded international organization cover everything up as long as possible - and then hump some kids.
It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. Robert A. Heinlen | |
Posted by tekriter
http://www.bbc.co....ld-europe-16912749
"Roman Catholic leaders are in Rome for an unprecedented summit on how the church should tackle the sexual abuse of children by priests."
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how about CALL THE MOTHERFUCKING COPS????
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Posted by Samurai
how about CALL THE MOTHERFUCKING COPS????
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The Vatican City cops?
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Oh good, my slow clap processor made it into this thing.
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As awful as the situation is, they could have scored some major points if they had tackled it head-on, rather than sweeping it under the rug and blaming hippies. The Boy Scouts have a rule where no adult leader is allowed to be alone with a scout under any circumstances. There always has to be at least two leaders present. If more organizations did that, the problem would diminish greatly. That's not saying the BSA is perfect, but that makes a big difference.
“We are not going to have the kind of cooperation we need if everyone insists on their own narrow version of reality. … the great divide in the world today … is between people who have the courage to listen and those who are convinced that they already know it all.”
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Posted by splumer
As awful as the situation is, they could have scored some major points if they had tackled it head-on, rather than sweeping it under the rug and blaming hippies. The Boy Scouts have a rule where no adult leader is allowed to be alone with a scout under any circumstances. There always has to be at least two leaders present. If more organizations did that, the problem would diminish greatly. That's not saying the BSA is perfect, but that makes a big difference.
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don't get me started about the BSA
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Posted by Samurai
don't get me started about the BSA
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For what it's worth, Sam, we had a scout a few years ago whom some thought might be gay. He had kinda dropped out, and the boys were talking about it, and we took a vote. They unanimously decided that they would allow a gay scout to be in the troop, despite the BSA's rule against it.
“We are not going to have the kind of cooperation we need if everyone insists on their own narrow version of reality. … the great divide in the world today … is between people who have the courage to listen and those who are convinced that they already know it all.”
-Madeline Albright | |
Posted by tekriter
http://www.bbc.co....ld-europe-16912749
"Roman Catholic leaders are in Rome for an unprecedented summit on how the church should tackle the sexual abuse of children by priests."
I'd say the best way is to create a system of trust based on unreasonable supernatural ideals, make it socially unacceptable to criticize religious organizations, make sure secrecy is maintained, and have a large well funded international organization cover everything up as long as possible - and then hump some kids.
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Outstanding. But can we hump some kids while we're developing the paperwork for this enormous undertaking, or do we have to wait for the system to become fully integrated?
"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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Posted by splumer
For what it's worth, Sam, we had a scout a few years ago whom some thought might be gay. He had kinda dropped out, and the boys were talking about it, and we took a vote. They unanimously decided that they would allow a gay scout to be in the troop, despite the BSA's rule against it.
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so far, you guys strike me as a class act.
(and that's not sarcasm. that's sincere compliment)
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Posted by Samurai
so far, you guys strike me as a class act.
(and that's not sarcasm. that's sincere compliment)
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Thanks! Not only that, three of our recent Eagle Scouts were atheists! One of them, though, was dumb enough to say so in his Eagle board of review, which almost got him rejected. He followed it up with some spiritual journey mumbo jumbo, which they bought.
The Girl Scouts, oddly enough, are totally cool with gays and atheists.
“We are not going to have the kind of cooperation we need if everyone insists on their own narrow version of reality. … the great divide in the world today … is between people who have the courage to listen and those who are convinced that they already know it all.”
-Madeline Albright | |
Funny that it's "cool" to insult catholics when its statistically more likely for a child to be molested at school than church. Not to mention the high levels of child abuse in other faiths such as judaism, but we can't talk about that .. holocaust, gods chosen, whatever. I won't even bother pointing out that most of the abuse all around comes from men molesting boys, gay much?
Athiests are just as bad. I figured I'd sign up and post over here and see how quick the mods freak out.
Before you wanna jump around name calling, I don't care if folks are gay or not. I don't like or hate anyone because they're gay, just sick of folks walking on egg shells not to offend certain people, when it's okay to offend certain other people, or why its "good" to be gay or why anyone should be proud that someone they know is gay for that matter. Are your gay friends proud of having a straight friend? lol Whoever said the church could have scored points by taking abuse head-on was dead right, i wouldn't defend how they've dealt with it - I only point out that it's actually a rare occurance overall.
If the BSA doesn't want to accept gay kids then they should form their own gay scouts, rather than try to take away the civil rights of the BSA by forcing them to accept something they don't want to.
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Posted by MrGreenJeans
I won't even bother pointing out that most of the abuse all around comes from men molesting boys, gay much?
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When men molest boys, it is not gay. When men molest girls, it is not straight. If someone is interested in children, there is virtually zero correlation to what sex that person prefers in adults, or whether they identify as straight or gay. Just a point that you should know.
Posted by MrGreenJeans
Athiests are just as bad. I figured I'd sign up and post over here and see how quick the mods freak out.
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Ahhhh! Ahhh! Freaking out SOOO MUCH.
Posted by MrGreenJeans
If the BSA doesn't want to accept gay kids then they should form their own gay scouts, rather than try to take away the civil rights of the BSA by forcing them to accept something they don't want to.
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And, in splumer's case, if some boy scouts decide that gay boys are, in fact, still human boys, then everything can work out just fine, as long as the fascists leaders don't crack down as thought police against the people who all agree that humans are humans.
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gee, where'd my last post go?
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There is no missing post. Or if there was, God must have taken it away.
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lol i dont have time to waste on the subject anyway
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Um, I thought I was the bigoted asshole here? Son of a bitch, now I have to reinvent my entire UER personality. Fuck.
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Posted by jeepdave
Um, I thought I was the bigoted asshole here? Son of a bitch, now I have to reinvent my entire UER personality. Fuck.
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Don't worry, you'll always have a place in our heart. 
| Funny that it's "cool" to insult catholics when its statistically more likely for a child to be molested at school than church. Not to mention the high levels of child abuse in other faiths such as judaism, but we can't talk about that .. holocaust, gods chosen, whatever. I won't even bother pointing out that most of the abuse all around comes from men molesting boys, gay much? |
Do you have a source for that claim? It may indeed be true, but how many institutions that have experienced a child abuse situation have gone to such lengths to cover it up? THAT is the issue, not so much that it happened. Sadly, sexual predators permeate society, and these situations will happen. It is how our institutions react to it that is the measure of their worth. If the Catholic church had acknowledged it right away and taken steps to prevent it from happening in the future, the situation would be very different now.
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I'd like to see them try. Now if they'd only allow atheists...
“We are not going to have the kind of cooperation we need if everyone insists on their own narrow version of reality. … the great divide in the world today … is between people who have the courage to listen and those who are convinced that they already know it all.”
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Well, to be fair Splume, a kid is more likely to be diddled by a relative than a church officiant.............
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Posted by splumer
It may indeed be true, but how many institutions that have experienced a child abuse situation have gone to such lengths to cover it up? THAT is the issue, not so much that it happened.
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Penn State.
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Posted by MonkeyPunchBaby
Penn State.
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I match your Penn State and raise you one Ireland.
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Posted by splumer
It is how our institutions react to it that is the measure of their worth. If the Catholic church had acknowledged it right away and taken steps to prevent it from happening in the future, the situation would be very different now.
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Yeah, and of course the fact that the recruitment practices and traditions of the Catholic priesthood serves as a virtual petri dish for molesters.
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