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http://www.telegra...-watery-grave.html
Say they plan to restore it. Is that even possible? I mean they rust bad enough when they aren't submerged in water...........
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those air cooled guys are hardcore
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I've read about that thing... a LOT... and have spoken to the owner over the web a few times. Most of the body is actually dead solid... it looks bad, but it's mostly water under the paint.
The tranny and engine however, acted as sacrificial metal and have all but vanished, except for the internals.
The dash clock even still worked after a bath in WD 40.
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Or a Porsche 356 that wasn't quite so lucky:
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hey bandi do you remember the bus some guy found basically underground in a swampy forrest and then restored?
I assume you know as most aircooled guys know of it
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VW people are crazy. this was originally a vw bug
/threadjack
On a road trip through Tennessee I met this guy Don Newbry, the local boat car legend... There's a tweaked VW Bug underneath its nautical jumpsuit, so I snapped these photos
obviously it's a land shark
http://www.flickr....9/with/4463174739/
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this makes me cry... i mean its just awful.
I've decided that I would love to find a Type III fastback instead of an Beetle... how many Type III's do you see anymore?
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Posted by team haymaker
hey bandi do you remember the bus some guy found basically underground in a swampy forrest and then restored?
I assume you know as most aircooled guys know of it
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I know the one!
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Posted by Samurai
this makes me cry... i mean its just awful.
I've decided that I would love to find a Type III fastback instead of an Beetle... how many Type III's do you see anymore?
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I totally approve.
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Posted by bandi
I totally approve.
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when was the last time you saw a Type III fastback?
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^ A couple of years ago when I sold my '69. If rich I would have kept it, but all the rubber was shot, it leaked like a sieve. Also needed much interior work, minor body work and paint. Nice car but a bit tweaky being the first year of fuel injection. I bought it for 75.00, (seized engine) didn't drive it a lot but enjoyed owing it. Put in some time and money, but broke even on the sale. It was fun unseizing the engine.
On the 57 Microbus; Damn these idiots who label a passenger bus a 'camper' Westfalia is the camper. This bus is important because of the rear wrap around corner windows, and being that old. I admire him for rescuing it. There are still lots in the U.S. though.
My 66 passenger model was known as a Combi. It had only 3 windows plus front doors per side. I actually liked the part privacy in the back. And they looked good with less windows. (The sunroof with fishbowl windows though is awesomeness, most collectable)
Damn good old bus. Would post a pic but am on my backup computer and it's barely moving. Or maybe UER is slow tonight.
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Posted by Samurai
when was the last time you saw a Type III fastback?
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April in a scrap yard north of my place, pretty much broken in half 
I scabbed a few bits off of it.
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Posted by bandi
April in a scrap yard north of my place, pretty much broken in half
I scabbed a few bits off of it.
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my friend Shawn was a VW guy in high school and had a 72 Super Beetle (yes, I know, they're hated), but it was so much fun. I have always wanted a Beetle/Air Cooled VW of my own, but either they're rotted out or pristine and going for huge $$$'s.
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Know what? The Super Beetle was a better car... yeah, the "purists" hated them, because VW changed the design, but you had more trunk space, better handling, better aerodynamics... and can be had for a lot less cash.
I love all 11 of mine.
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Posted by bandi
Know what? The Super Beetle was a better car... yeah, the "purists" hated them, because VW changed the design, but you had more trunk space, better handling, better aerodynamics... and can be had for a lot less cash.
I love all 11 of mine.
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purists = elitist snobs
Super Beetles were/are great cars.
"Deep in the human psyche there lies the need to believe in something fantastic, something powerful, something unknown."
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With pre-underwater pics
http://www.tneuros...x.php?topic=7455.0
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Posted by bandi
Know what? The Super Beetle was a better car... yeah, the "purists" hated them, because VW changed the design, but you had more trunk space, better handling, better aerodynamics... and can be had for a lot less cash.
I love all 11 of mine.
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VW Purists are worse than Jeep Purists 
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oh for sure.
don't worry, I have my eye on a '52 Willys M38A1.
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Posted by bandi
oh for sure.
don't worry, I have my eye on a '52 Willys M38A1.
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Good man
What drives me nuts about the Jeep Purists and maybe there is an analog in the VW world, is that they will ignore parts of Jeep history and past innovations to justify their ways.
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Posted by Agent Skelly
Good man
What drives me nuts about the Jeep Purists and maybe there is an analog in the VW world, is that they will ignore parts of Jeep history and past innovations to justify their ways.
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Honestly, what was so great about a Jeep? A friend of mine has a 1951 Willys CJ3A (with a Buick 3.8L swap) and my 71 Bronco would go all the places his little Jeep would go and it would do it far more comfortably. I seem to remember that the 66-76 Bronco got voted 4x4 Of All Time so many times, it's like the Neil Peart of the off-road community.
I had a 1971 Bronco half-cab and a 76 Bronco 'wagon'... the 71 was a 302 V8 and the 76 was the 200 I6.
After that it was more less an F150 station wagon that, unlike the Blazer, got fucking HUGE when you tried off-roading in the woods.
from our friends at Wikipedia:
The original Bronco was an ORV (Off-Road Vehicle), intended to compete primarily with Jeep CJ models and the International Harvester Scout. The Bronco's small size riding on a 92-inch (2,337 mm) wheelbase made it popular for off-roading and some other uses, but impractical for such things as towing. The Bronco was Ford's first compact SUV, and Ford's compact and midsize SUV niche would be taken by the compact pickup based Ford Bronco II (1984–1990), Ford Explorer (1991–present) and the Ford Escape (2001–present).
The idea behind the Bronco began with Ford product manager Donald N. Frey, who also conceived of the Ford Mustang; and similarly, Lee Iacocca pushed the idea through into production. In many ways, the Bronco was a more original concept than the Mustang; whereas the Mustang was based upon the Ford Falcon, the Bronco had a frame, suspension, and body that were not shared with any other vehicle.
The Bronco was designed under engineer Paul G. Axelrad. Although the axles and brakes were sourced from the Ford F-100 four wheel drive pickup truck, the front axle was located by radius arms (from the frame near the rear of the transmission forward to the axle) and a lateral track bar, allowing the use of coil springs that gave the Bronco a 34-foot (10.4 m) turning circle, long wheel travel, and an anti-dive geometry which was useful for snowplowing. The rear suspension was more conventional, with leaf springs in a typical Hotchkiss design. A shift-on the-fly Dana Corp. transfer case and locking hubs were standard, and heavy-duty suspension was an option.
The initial engine was the Ford 170 cu in (2.8 L) straight-6, modified with solid valve lifters, a 6-US-quart (6 l) oil pan, heavy-duty fuel pump, oil-bath air cleaner, and a carburetor with a float bowl compensated against tilting.
Styling was subordinated to simplicity and economy, so all glass was flat, bumpers were simple C-sections, the frame was a simple box-section ladder, and the basic left and right door skins were identical except for mounting holes.
The early Broncos were offered in wagon, the ever popular halfcab, and less popular roadster configurations. Roadster was dropped early and the sport package, which later became a model line, was added.
The base price was only US$2,194, but the long option list included front bucket seats, a rear bench seat, a tachometer, and a CB radio, as well as functional items such as a tow bar, an auxiliary gas tank, a power take-off, a snowplow, a winch, and a posthole digger. Aftermarket accessories included campers, overdrive units, and the usual array of wheels, tires, chassis, and engine parts for increased performance.
The Bronco sold well in its first year (23,776 units produced[5]) and then remained in second place after the CJ-5[6] until the advent of the full-sized Chevrolet Blazer in 1969. Lacking a dedicated small SUV platform, the Blazer was based on their existing full size pickup which was a larger and more powerful vehicle, offering greater luxury, comfort and space. The longer option list included an automatic transmission and power steering, and thus had broader appeal. Ford countered by enlarging the optional V8 engine from 289 cu in (4.7 L) and 200 hp (150 kW) to 302 cu in (4.9 L) and 205 hp (153 kW), but this still could not match the Blazer's optional350 cu in (5.7 L) and 255 hp (190 kW) (horsepower numbers are before horsepower ratings changed in the early to mid-1970s.)
In 1973, the 170 was replaced by a 200 cu in (3.3 L) straight six, power steering and automatic transmissions were made optional, and sales spiked to 26,300. By then, however, Blazer sales were double those of the Bronco, and International Harvester had seen the light and come out with the Scout II that was more in the Blazer class. By 1974, the larger and more comfortable vehicles such as the Jeep Cherokee (SJ) made more sense for the average driver than the more rustically-oriented Bronco. The low sales of the Bronco (230,800 over twelve years) did not allow a large budget for upgrades, and it remained basically unchanged until the advent of the larger, more Blazer-like second generation Bronco in 1978. Production of the original model fell (14,546 units) in its last year, 1977.[5]
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