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 Soldat
       
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
 |  |  | leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
< on 4/9/2007 2:15 AM >
|  | | | Has anybody happened to find on of these said items while in an old hospital? I have been reading a bit about the esteemed Doctor Freeman and its got me interested in the history of lobotomies and such. Just curious.
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Soldat
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
| | | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 2 on 4/9/2007 2:37 AM >
| | | | Okay, sorry.
here is what a Leucotome would look like and I have been unable to find an orbitoclast picture online but from what I can tell it looked like that but was thinker metal and hand a t-handle.
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femaledragonx
 
Location: Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 4 on 4/9/2007 3:12 AM >
| | | | i assume you have seen the howard dully story...
"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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david explosion
Gender: Male
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 5 on 4/9/2007 3:48 AM >
| | | | I've been searching for one of these for YEARS.
Best clue I can give is to look for these coming out of China, as they were still practiced there as a legit procedure until (very) recently.
Good luck, god knows I haven't had any.
bitches get stitches. |
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david explosion
Gender: Male
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 6 on 4/9/2007 3:51 AM >
| | | | ps.
those links were awesome! thanks.
bitches get stitches. |
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Soldat
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
| | | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 7 on 4/9/2007 4:28 AM >
| | | | Yeah, thanks for the links. And I assumed they would be rare but I was just curious if anybody actually had such luck. It would be such a creepy and amazing find.
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david explosion
Gender: Male
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 8 on 4/9/2007 6:40 AM >
| | | | I'm in the process of getting my hands on a dvd copy of Freeman's instructional "how to perform a lobotomy" video. It was used for training doctors on lobotomys.
Explains the tools & process. Then he does one, first on a brain and then on an actual patient.
It's pretty sweet...I'm hoping to get it sometime this week, depending on how fast I can pull the nessisary strings.
bitches get stitches. |
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silvernail
Location: michigan
Gender: Male
MY DOG IN ALL HIS GLORY
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 9 on 4/9/2007 6:52 AM >
| | | | If you did ever find those would be worth a small fortune
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WhiteCollarBoy
Location: Chicago, Il
Gender: Male
| | |  | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 10 on 4/9/2007 6:58 AM >
| | | | Aghhh those things creep me out! If anybody does find one, keep them away from my brain!
"It would be nice if I could blink (like Jeannie) and make some of you be afflicted with legs that are like pogo sticks, yes, pogo sticks, for the rest of your lives, and all of the ink shall run from your proud tattoos until it reforms on your foreheads only to spell out, "I am a demanding Bitch, everything should be my way." - JT Colfax |
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 11 on 4/9/2007 7:16 AM >
| | | | Posted by WhiteCollarBoy
Aghhh those things creep me out! If anybody does find one, keep them away from my brain!
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shelka04
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico
Gender: Male
| |  | | | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 12 on 4/9/2007 8:22 AM >
| | | | What you ask for equates out to looking for a full can of Zyclon-B. Logicly speaking, EVERY Hospital had or has these tools, especially ALL of the psychiatric venues. BUT when they fell out of vogue so to speak and became associated with... well you know, then it became time to hide or destroy them.
Funny bit of history. There is a triving subculture of collectors and sellers of most any instrument used around the Civil War era, 120 or so years ago. However there is not one listing, thred, link, or sign domestic or abroad, for any medical tools like these from 1900 on. I've looked. It's a Mystery.
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shelka04
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico
Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 13 on 4/10/2007 3:12 AM >
| | | | I just spoke with my brother, who's the chief of surgery at a large hospital. He had no clue as to why such instruments aren't "out there" but he said if anything is still available it would be available here
http://www.cardina...prodserv/vmueller/
Their catalogue is very extensive, if any one finds anything please post it.
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 14 on 4/10/2007 3:59 AM >
| | | | I found one in an abandoned hospital. It has since been taken by someone, somewhere.
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femaledragonx
Location: Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 15 on 4/11/2007 2:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by Glass
I found one in an abandoned hospital. It has since been taken by someone, somewhere.
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what did it look like? exactly like one of these posted, or could it have been something else? this is very exciting.
i have seen instruments that looked similar, like biopsy punches, but nothing clearly that is for lobotomies.
if you did get to see one, you are very lucky and i am thoroughly jealous.
"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 16 on 4/11/2007 3:06 PM >
| | | | Posted by femaledragonx
what did it look like? exactly like one of these posted, or could it have been something else? this is very exciting.
i have seen instruments that looked similar, like biopsy punches, but nothing clearly that is for lobotomies.
if you did get to see one, you are very lucky and i am thoroughly jealous.
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It looked exactly like:
http://upload.wiki...9/96/Icepicks1.jpg
It was about 6" long.
It wasn't in a surgical hospital, though... it was in a place that used to be a tuberculosis sanitorium that was later converted into a nursing home. They didn't perform any surgery at this hospital.
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femaledragonx
Location: Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 17 on 4/11/2007 8:38 PM >
| | | | what kind of room was it in? could it have been for anything else?
the one in that photo is very different from the others.
let me dig up some more photos of other examples and check my book about walter freeman...
"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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femaledragonx
Location: Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 18 on 4/11/2007 8:44 PM >
| | | | found a few more photos...
[last edit 4/11/2007 8:45 PM by femaledragonx - edited 2 times]
"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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femaledragonx
Location: Detroit & Everywhere Else I can dream up to go to
The singularity is near
| | Re: leucotomes and Orbitoclasts
<Reply # 19 on 4/11/2007 8:46 PM >
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"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd." -Bertrand Russell
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." ~Annie Dillard |
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