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I came across this article yesterday on the Daily Grail and, not knowing squat about math or physics, thought i'd throw this out there for discussion:
"According to the law of mathematics, if you keep dividing any number, you will go on for eternity until you divide the number by the same number in which case, you will get the number one.
Also, if you keep adding the digits in any number you will always end up with the number one. Which is why the Quran states: "Say, that God is one". In mathematics, the number one is the smallest prime number, and the ultimate square root of all numbers is always the number one.
All religions believe in one God, just the name differs. Albert Einstein's equation states that Energy = Mass x C2. The law of physics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Which means the energy that created the universe cannot have a beginning nor an end. Also, there must be something that existed before the universe and that will continue to exist after the universe. That is the definition of God.
By applying Albert Einstein's formula, the universe must have a creator because the universe has mass (M). God does not need a creator because God does not have mass (M). God is energy (E).
Thus when people ask the question, "If God created mankind, who created God?", they mistakenly imagine God as having a form or mass. Only mass needs a creator, not energy.
The creator of mass is of course, energy. The theory of God's existence is in line with mathematical theory."
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Posted by Trixi
All religions believe in one God, just the name differs.
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How so...?
"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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So the heat energy that was transformed from the kinetic energy of my car when I utilized the brakes to stop it is God???
This also explains the natural order of the universe and how mathematics can correctly predict the prescence of such items as electrons, neutrons, and protons. This could explain life, a scientific principle, not a divine one.
You can't prove God exists, I can't prove he doesn't but I'll stay the intellectual course that science will answer our questions about the universe, not God
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The issue I have with that is like mass, energy is confined to linear time. Also, by Einstein's own E=mc^2, both mass and energy are finite. If God did indeed create the universe they God also created time. If both energy is finite as well as constrained by time, that I have significant difficulty believing that hypothesis.
I'm a firm believe that math and science can't outright prove the existance of God but rather provide some rather convincing evidence that we are the product of intelligent design. For instance the argument of both finite mass and energy in the universe, which in and of itself suggests that the universe is finite (as the vast majority of physicists agree with). Evolution relies on the idea of an infinite universe in that no matter how low the probability of it actually happening, at some point in time it will happen. However if the universe is finite then the probability of everything being the way they are now is so low that it's considered 0. (1 in 10^-56 by contemporary accounts and 1 in 10^-92 by conservative Christian accounts, both values so low that the inverse of them exceeds the estimated count of the number of atoms in the universe.)
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Posted by KublaKhan
How so...?
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Well, i'm not sure what the author was trying to get at exactly with that one but it does seems as though even religions with a multitude of gods still have the one "main" god that everything was created by or came forth from.
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I failed math. Does this mean I reject God? Or that I don't understand God?
Lemmie try to understand...
Two deities leave the mountaintop at the same time, travelling in opposite directions. Deity One has to traverse several smaller mountains on her/his way to the Final Destination, thereby adding several lifetimes to his/his travel time, while Diety Two chooses a straight (and narrow) path with little or few obstacles, yet has to travel farther in order to reach her/his Final Destination.
Along the way, Deity One meanders over the various paths s/he has chosen, and enjoys the trip and all the wonderful experiences that go with it.
Meanwhile, Diety Two stops to pick up a boatload of refugees on their way to a better life in a strange and frightening new world.
Q: Which deity arrives at the Final Destination first, and with fewer pieces of baggage?
Nope. Still don't get it.
"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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im pretty sure taoism doesn't have a god...
Shut the fuck up and ride that fucking Couchmobile!
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Whoa. That is freakin' trippy.
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Posted by Zephyr
Whoa. That is freakin' trippy.
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That stupid burger king thing..... I hate that thing.
So I said "Why don't you shove it where the sun don't shine" and so he did. He put it in the cupboard under the stairs and it hasn't been mentioned since.
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That is frightening. I am frightened by that image.
"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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Posted by KublaKhan
That is frightening. I am frightened by that image.
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lmao.
What if we factor the number zero into the equation? Would Satan be zero? If God is represented by the number one, or energy, and Satan is the opposite to God, would Satan then be the lack of energy? Or the consumption of energy? So that would be zero right? I think I'm thinking too hard about this one.....ow.
Joking aside, Doc is right, God can't be proven. That's the whole point. If He could be proven, then accepting Him would just be a matter of common sense, as opposed to faith and trust.
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Posted by Zephyr
lmao.
What if we factor the number zero into the equation? Would Satan be zero? If God is represented by the number one, or energy, and Satan is the opposite to God, would Satan then be the lack of energy? Or the consumption of energy? So that would be zero right? I think I'm thinking too hard about this one.....ow.
Joking aside, Doc is right, God can't be proven. That's the whole point. If He could be proven, then accepting Him would just be a matter of common sense, as opposed to faith and trust.
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God = 1
Zero is NOT the opposite of 1.
-1 is the opposite of 1.
Satan is, therefore, -1.
But again, I failed math.
"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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Satan is not the opposite of God, he is lower than God on the scale of things (a fallen angel) so satan wouldn't be -1. Satan would be one of those numbers that is eventually divided by itself.
So I said "Why don't you shove it where the sun don't shine" and so he did. He put it in the cupboard under the stairs and it hasn't been mentioned since.
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Posted by IrishLady
Satan is not the opposite of God, he is lower than God on the scale of things (a fallen angel) so satan wouldn't be -1. Satan would be one of those numbers that is eventually divided by itself.
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HEY...I KNOW Satan. Trust me: he's the opposite of God.
"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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So then who or what is zero?
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Posted by Zephyr
So then who or what is zero?
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the anti christ.
Personally, I think that's Kublakahn
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Posted by The Doctor
the anti christ.
Personally, I think that's Kublakahn
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Zero the Hero.
It's ME with a bullet.
"The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible."
--Don DeLillo
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Posted by KublaKhan
Zero the Hero.
It's ME with a bullet.
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and some killer BC bud
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Posted by The Doctor
and some killer BC bud
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Correct-oh-mundo.
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