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<Reply # 1800 on 12/21/2007 5:01 PM >
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Homeless set blaze in abandoned tunnel under Douglas Street

Rob Shaw
Times Colonist


Friday, December 21, 2007


City of Victoria crews were busy yesterday trying to seal off the entrance to a 100-year-old tunnel beneath Douglas Street after a group of homeless people was discovered living there.

The ancient passageway, at one time used to shuttle laundry out of the Fairmont Empress hotel, was supposed to be inaccessible to the public because the city had declared it unsafe.

However, an undetermined number of homeless people had pried open an access point and had apparently been there for "quite some time," said City of Victoria communications manager Katie Josephson. Numerous belongings were left scattered inside, she said.

The group likely would have still been there undetected had they not decided to light fires in the tunnel Wednesday night. Businesses near the Victoria Conference Centre, at the east side of the hotel, as well as those across Douglas Street, reported smoke pouring from underground.

"It was a fair amount of smoke coming out of there but nothing too serious," said Victoria fire Capt. Neil Aldous.

"It was in a bit of an unusual place where we don't usually see fires."

Firefighters arrived at the tunnel around 10:50 p.m., but the fires had mostly extinguished on their own, Aldous said.

It was disruptive for some businesses, such as National Car Rental on the other side of Douglas Street from the hotel. It still smelled like burned wires yesterday, manager Lise Daigle said.

"It's challenging, because we've got no phones and no computers," she said. The phone lines were fried in the blaze, and the Internet connection was also down. Telus expected to fix both late yesterday. Despite the inconvenience, the business has stayed open, Daigle said.

The tunnel is one of many that remain hidden below the city's downtown core, according to Victoria folklore. The Empress built the tunnel in 1908 to provide an underground passageway to a power plant and laundry facility near Douglas and Humboldt streets, according to the book The Empress Hotel: In the Grand Style by Terry Reksten.

The city is now exploring other ways to reseal the passageway. Josephson said she was reluctant to discuss the tunnel's exact location and how to access it, in order to prevent others from trying to break in and live there in the future.

rfshaw@tc.canwest.com

© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2007



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<Reply # 1801 on 12/21/2007 6:31 PM >
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Well thats just great. Thank you crack heads of Victoria....



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<Reply # 1802 on 12/22/2007 12:12 AM >
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...and they said I was crazy.

Someone alert Jester.

So there I was, lounging with my old buddy Avatar-X (maybe you've heard of him) at his stylish pad, surrounded by high-tech gear and automatic voice controlled curtains (seriously...Av speaks into his watch and the curtains close), and we're watching a little documentary video on his sexy HD screen (also voice controlled), and it's a doc about tunnels in Victoria, and it stars (variously) a bunch of guys who sail under the banner of the GCG Crew, and in this doc there is some footage of a tunnel that is now part of Victoria's undeniable network blah blah blah...

You'll get a chance to see Under the Garden City soon enough.

Now you know.

Jester...HA. Cynic. I told you I'd prove you WRONG.

PS. Thanks again, Av.



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<Reply # 1803 on 12/22/2007 1:23 AM >
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Homeless set blaze in abandoned tunnel under Douglas Street


This is the old graffiti door I assume?





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<Reply # 1804 on 12/22/2007 2:05 AM >
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Wow

Great piece on underground tunnels in victoria on chek news. Anyone get a copy of this?



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<Reply # 1805 on 12/22/2007 2:55 AM >
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Rumour has it that they were burned out, and the squatters had not set the fire themselves. I have talked to a few people in touch with the Victoria area squatting community, and this seems to be what happened.



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Kinda seems odd that the very people who utilized this space would carelessly cause a fire.

Kinda reminds me of the old Pandora St. Squat story.

Odd. Very, very, very odd.



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<Reply # 1807 on 12/22/2007 8:55 AM >
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Rumour has it that they were burned out, and the squatters had not set the fire themselves. I have talked to a few people in touch with the Victoria area squatting community, and this seems to be what happened.


Creepy, and sad to say believable. Especially disturbing at this time of year. Who the fuck would do that? There is much more to this story than what the media and their fancy equipment report.

They have barely scratched the surface of the story, or the space...





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<Reply # 1808 on 12/22/2007 12:20 PM >
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my word full buddy of mine at another's b-day party 2night told me of that & i told him about the 30 ft underground club my other friend has been in, in relation, he says a 4th out of my friends or the 4th whom i know of is willing to take em right exactly there & its the place hes been talking of

he says there is a place you see these things on ground & u lift boards 2 get in then once stooping down your first step you have too crouch to get in n while going down you have too turn around 3x too get access too the main tunnel he says its splits alike the shape you see on the ground before entrance & he said his buddy seen a bathroom type place apparently brown but ''covered'' in blood with the one he has said also a table in there with a pop/beer can split in half with the same brown shit or something to do with what they thought was blood in there.


he told me the spray paint there misleads you where any1 would want too go & purposely because whats down there doesnt want you out

if your in

& i bet you all that burn up down there is maybe to smoke someone out or possibly stay warm yes but going to the news over it? i think blankets huddleing & a less noticeable (bonfire) down there wouldn't attract so much attention that would have too be lots of paper?? which in case would these bums blaze something up for a one night of freezing to take their so called new found home? i don't know i'd agree though weird.

& another couple nights ago i left a friend of mine who runs a shop by the odeon.. this is random but i was in front of the odd fellows building on douglas snooping a little & when i stood there i noticed a man i seen catch the same bus lots but i frequently seen him in the same spot for the bus i knew this to my self many times i had seen him with his fat ass & a paperboyish type bag while i w8 for that bus in particular well he came around wandering & which was what he usually did im certain every other time i seen him but this time i stood in front the window beside the ( i.o.o.f.) tiles on the entrance cement
& looked in there here & there its was different though this time because this man knew it was cold & had routine or the knowledge to go in the only chinese restaurant right beside the odd fellows that was open at the time i was out it was about 9 pm 8 about but i figured every place closed at 6 at the latest?well he wen tin there & took a seat at their window like he was a regular didn't order nothing & hopped on when it came



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<Reply # 1809 on 12/22/2007 2:58 PM >
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Creepy, and sad to say believable. Especially disturbing at this time of year. Who the fuck would do that? There is much more to this story than what the media and their fancy equipment report.

They have barely scratched the surface of the story, or the space...





Werd, yo. If they only knew.



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my word full buddy of mine at another's b-day party 2night told me of that & i told him about the 30 ft underground club my other friend has been in, in relation, he says a 4th out of my friends or the 4th whom i know of is willing to take em right exactly there & its the place hes been talking of

he says there is a place you see these things on ground & u lift boards 2 get in then once stooping down your first step you have too crouch to get in n while going down you have too turn around 3x too get access too the main tunnel he says its splits alike the shape you see on the ground before entrance & he said his buddy seen a bathroom type place apparently brown but ''covered'' in blood with the one he has said also a table in there with a pop/beer can split in half with the same brown shit or something to do with what they thought was blood in there.


he told me the spray paint there misleads you where any1 would want too go & purposely because whats down there doesnt want you out

if your in

& i bet you all that burn up down there is maybe to smoke someone out or possibly stay warm yes but going to the news over it? i think blankets huddleing & a less noticeable (bonfire) down there wouldn't attract so much attention that would have too be lots of paper?? which in case would these bums blaze something up for a one night of freezing to take their so called new found home? i don't know i'd agree though weird.

& another couple nights ago i left a friend of mine who runs a shop by the odeon.. this is random but i was in front of the odd fellows building on douglas snooping a little & when i stood there i noticed a man i seen catch the same bus lots but i frequently seen him in the same spot for the bus i knew this to my self many times i had seen him with his fat ass & a paperboyish type bag while i w8 for that bus in particular well he came around wandering & which was what he usually did im certain every other time i seen him but this time i stood in front the window beside the ( i.o.o.f.) tiles on the entrance cement
& looked in there here & there its was different though this time because this man knew it was cold & had routine or the knowledge to go in the only chinese restaurant right beside the odd fellows that was open at the time i was out it was about 9 pm 8 about but i figured every place closed at 6 at the latest?well he wen tin there & took a seat at their window like he was a regular didn't order nothing & hopped on when it came



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<Reply # 1811 on 12/23/2007 5:34 AM >
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That's a bad word around here, n00b. A very, very bad word.




WHAT!?!?! I'm a bum...i'm comfortable with that. Hobo Bum Toad!!




I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too!
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<Reply # 1812 on 12/23/2007 8:23 AM >
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u guys should know that all those ass hats burning in the tunnels ,,bringing extra unwanted attention ,are going to ruin it for us ,,
accsess will be harder now ,,



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<Reply # 1813 on 12/23/2007 11:21 AM >
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i would go in their ''lair'' & you 'protect' them by a slight mistaken name which i used as word play not in common bland labelling like as if in person.. however i can correct myself for respect, of mental problem or issue resorting 2 your life, how they would possibly have that issue starving for a proper meal, freezing , & packing the shittiest attire to help it i notice what a real bum is feeding off the scum that you as a person lay out naturally.


anyone can be 1 if one time you a fuck up , if ya wife hustled you balls deep in your own ass '' took '' that precious life of yours away with the governments side


to me if i got my vibe knowing how i'm feeling & these ''destine'' of how they living or doing pardon my Francaise from earlier tabernacle but i agree with you contributing back with only that 2 say these. are. everyday people. & so are you & so am i yess just because a name mistaken for who knows what in offense for a buttocks seems dumb for me but not as smart as if one these would turn on you in the first moment you met them. plotting behind your back in their mind fucking you raw. either way how you have it call it what you wanna call it everyone has their way of what they want to their answer for what they ask for. i just know me HERE man do you? i take my time here telling what i can contribute without care for nothing if nothing defineatly doesn't give a fuck i know i can go by with trust that i can pass word 2 whoo deserves.. anyhow any snakes shiest persons in my life i'm taking out because those are some people who will fuck with you everyday any day & bring the real worst out of people that why you see it in them. so if its fuck what i heard then fuck you too if you seem to only exploit a ''wrong term'' for the so called unfotrunate we should all ''love'' yet even some is so fucked in they life only they can get that flatline moving where you cant especially mentally unstable & unhygienic i didnt touch basis on takign this forum too the extreme of labelling people just too? do so? why waste time anyhow? but if you knew me in person maybe like that too & i was worse too these people like i for sure have seen been done by others
i would wana do extremes but a shitty thing is ANY1 can become one it is possible & anyone is capable of a mans functions espescially assumptions

all i'm trying to go about is that really 8nt me too happen to die too run falloff on mass majorities judgment of having an own civil right too be me as me free as can be no matter who tells me different they shouldn't be part of my world therefore i'm 5050 I'll call you a bum if you are a bum I'll call you a survivor if i realize what i see as survivors not trying to project hostile on people like flies on shit stick on glue white on rice you know? hope y'all like the loving x mas brings most of it is all you will ever get once in this soulful lifetime you dwell in & this 50-50 in me says fuck it too either way i'm downtown here & there everywhere sometimes & no homeless will call me a noob no real for real person (made of guts flesh n skin ) would
is this a game? is this a rookie step i'm taking? to take the knife out my back n thrust it in ya chest ?? so be it i'm not homeless & i can go detrimentally ill crazy too if when i feel i need too with my own actions just like all you i'd go down there explore & not bitch out if there any use of anyone here in Victoria i'm for so & so are you if you are not a heatty rat bitch straight up i get told of people who bitch out when they shouldn't its not my case so
when people can contribute maybe among the thoughts & sleep pushed away & how daily elements surround one conclusion desired too be found by effort of search & trial debating for whats right double checking assurance
yet confusion closes in when everything seems to be shambles & shames your efforts you been making where you become attracting those things that will get you that messed that unsure of traces to your case however we look at this i'm gonna say its all eye for an eye i think when you call me a video game term its ok 'cause this is not where they are this is not downtown Victoria but a forum of nosy ones maybe its if you don't know how to know your enemies how the hell can u get'm? anyone can become that
3x on you i understand what you mean but my time is gone because i trust most as none just a moral to my life but if you knew me you'd realize i get mistaken too so its called respectfully reasoning in good seasoning i stay in a mess clean but i go camouflaged just too manipulate you if i desire & i stay alert showing my interest of possibilities to any thing so lets relate i don't go out soft nor solid for no one i don't go by a master but me as my own i don't know about you & i don't procrastinate not like i'm saying you do any of you but some do some will fuck your issue royally & all i was saying too the climaxed tip of it all is that i think people do just go out 2 do that fuck you over everywhere by say you really make me think it will be sealed making my effort pointless too ponder we all know instinct if i had my crew i was & i was certain of everyone like they were of me i would go out ways as long safety precautions go for you . on note to my own i just got new steel toes i'm breaking in & they are righteous

but for the most who i connect with daily is not who seems they would be willing . lots are half procrastinating thats just life but i talk to them everyone who i think has idea i've found people who didn't believe it but found themselves in there already before & made them want too go about heatty moves but a plan is to be structured with certified problem takers for action & all i give a fuck about is knowing with a knowledge & how someone anyone could have life just like that with nothing to lose

if there is homeless there is tons down there i bet
i will not stand & let someone make a best of me
therefore when i go i go for a while unless i come to a pointless dead end tunnel or ending dead tunnels however the outcome i wont hesitate to hurt i wont fall without countering a circumstance

if i agree with you basically saying the same fucking shit is that really a noob? nerd? ''WERD''

if i gotta call'm a bum in a face to face confrontation then whats already set & took place is unproper unwillingly helping situation therefore lets all mass murder each other yess call it what you wanna call it maybe next time on the news comes a BANG or scream bitch ass smoke is coming out the ground because its cold or like you say someone is scaring fools off or hiding something you know what i'm saying a burning big enough too burn into the stores or place someone said somewhere affected by this mishap shit someone stated it smelled like wires & whole loads of other shit burning i heard? confuses me but

on another random note someone close has told me they know of a man who goes in all the time from uvic
i have read myself a professor knows lots from that school & have heard about a case 7 students go missing & i've heard cops known of so & sealed it up a while ago

people are scandalous
you all know it
some show it


i asked my good friend about a bone he found in the roof of a house by ross bay he worked on plumbing but snooped in the attic he found a old big bone in a box in the attic he wouldn't budge to much say just agreeing & smiling to me saying tis was very fucked up ??? nothing of benefit for shit but of all curiosity i'm intending on on getting more out of him if it possible



i rather reason with anyone at drama but some hold theirs too much. simplistic theory.

my source says if i give this store man beer he will show me exact ways in 12 pack of bud? kokanee? depends the man he may like 12 oe's but respect fully no life & emotionless soul tooken crackhead with a box bed (just a working man & no fink)

might as well ask everyone in E.M.I. who is probably part of the underground who would tell everyone of you asking about them all the people in there off their rocker loopy as a loony toon on meds eating processed meats playing chess i think would be a crazy bet because those are who would likely live in a tarnished underground
especially amongst unstable thoughts with out prescriptions & various street drugs you may think lots of weird shit would go down there extremely in place if no one has control . seeing as how i know a few people close who have went if i ever seen them again & didn't resort to accidental bringing up of a hard feeling of someones unfortunate past then maybe if my trust was assured i would ask


because i have visited & spent my bday there praying someone would get out of state of deep stress & case of bi polar

how the ''disabled'' & ''demented'' problem having ways some these people have i could imagine them down there too
when hell is all & all is hell i guess


its your instinct i've been told by ex methheads not




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<Reply # 1814 on 12/23/2007 11:34 AM >
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not to go there & jailbound fucs who done more than a measley ''5mo'' whos apparent brothers has been apart of a 'cult' in vic for 21 years and a couple missing fingers too
i have family who begs not to go & as soon i give a little
they also want too lie to me because i think everyone knows a little of everything but some hide it between lines across your eyes
i know what I've known so far but i'm not trying too work no one like a cold piece of ass over it in the rain just because i haven't got what i wanna know but i'm here like all you too lets look into this deeper by our power n meaning by all means





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<Reply # 1815 on 12/23/2007 3:31 PM >
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Alrightythen. I have no idea what that was all about, but it certainly made my morning coffee that much more enjoyable.

Meggaman...you've got a point. However, whatever is now part of common knowledge is merely a faint scratch on the surface of something far more involved, complex and deeper than a 'just below the surface' adventure such as what was discovered here this week.

I'll take the time to restate what I have said previously: it is highly unlikely that the people who utilize this space as a shelter would fuck themselves out of a relatively secure place by lighting fires. I refer back to the Pandora St. Squat that burned to the ground 2 1/2 years ago.

I wonder if there are any designs for the space e.g. Condoland.

P.S. Yo Toad. You are what you is. We should hook up, ride the rails and sing Boxcar Willie songs until we're blue in the face.






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<Reply # 1816 on 12/23/2007 10:10 PM >
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Merry Christmas to you all.

While visiting an old Pal in Victoria this morning we were discussing interesting items we have found on the internet, and I mentioned my interest in this forum and the discussions about tunnels in Victoria.

He told me an interesting story that I don't think I have read about here. As a young Man working in the Royal Theatre he was shown tunnels (plural) in the basement of the Royal.

He was never allowed to enter any of them, but saw them himself.

I thought you folks might find this tidbit of information of interest.

Regards,

Tom



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<Reply # 1817 on 12/24/2007 1:35 AM >
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While visiting an old Pal in Victoria this morning...



Here, there and everywhere. No matter where you go in this city, or who you speak with, etc. etc. etc. Crazy talk. All of it. No tunnels here, folks. Nothing to see.

Until something actually surfaces in the beloved TC, and then it's news. Then it's newsworthy. Don't listen to the people who have been inside/living/sleeping/etc. They're all nutters.

Your friend at the Royal is a nutter too. As is the girl I spoke with a couple of years ago...the meth-head girl with the missing dog, or the old guy outside the Janion, or the old woman near Broughton, or the scabby guy by the Johnson St. Bridge, or the old sailor or the other guy or the woman or the retired city worker or blah blah blah. Nutters. All of them.

The TC, however...THAT'S the real deal.

Does anybody believe now?



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<Reply # 1818 on 12/24/2007 3:39 AM >
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Your friend at the Royal is a nutter too. As is the girl I spoke with a couple of years ago...the meth-head girl with the missing dog, or the old guy outside the Janion, or the old woman near Broughton, or the scabby guy by the Johnson St. Bridge, or the old sailor or the other guy or the woman or the retired city worker or blah blah blah. Nutters. All of them.



You forgot the Masons...





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<Reply # 1819 on 12/24/2007 4:11 AM >
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You forgot the Masons...




...and the Masons.



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