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If so, why, and if not, why not?
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Only if you fall in an open manhole
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Walking across a street that's open to the public isn't any form of urban exploration surely, what are you exploring?
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Posted by mookster
Walking across a street that's open to the public isn't any form of urban exploration surely, what are you exploring?
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A street is not open to the public. That's why it's called jaywalking. Drivers will yell at you and the police will punish you.
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Posted by Steed
A street is not open to the public. That's why it's called jaywalking. Drivers will yell at you and the police will punish you.
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But streets are public? They are public roads, what am I missing?
In the UK as well as almost everywhere else jaywalking isn't something you get punished for.
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Posted by mookster
But streets are public? They are public roads, what am I missing?
In the UK as well as almost everywhere else jaywalking isn't something you get punished for.
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What, not even with a ticket?
Bridges are public too, but would you say climbing them isn't urban exploring?
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Well I suppose it could be technically UE but only if you are intentionally doing it with UE intention. For example Google's definition of jaywalking: cross or walk in the street or road unlawfully or without regard for approaching traffic. Well lately I have found myself desiring to walk on bridges that do not have pedestrian walkways. I desire to do so for unique photo opportunities/perspectives. So I would definitely consider this jaywalking and UE.
Hence definition of urban exploration via google: the activity or pastime of exploring man-made structures, especially abandoned buildings and areas not generally open to the public.
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Does talking about it amount to collusion?
Abby
"Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem." Ronald Reagan |
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Posted by Abby Normal
Does talking about it amount to collusion?
Abby
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Looked up that word "Collusion". Your question is pretty trippy.
Edit: re-read the definition of the word collusion multiple times and do not understand your question "Does talking about it amount to collusion?"
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Posted by Abby Normal
Does talking about it amount to collusion?
Abby
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What if your posts about it entices a minor to do it...
and they get run over by a Mack truck as the attempt doing psuedo street crossing sploring?
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Posted by blackhawk
What if your posts about it entices a minor to do it...
and they get run over by a Mack truck as the attempt doing psuedo street crossing sploring?
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Well what if a minor sees a post on here that motivates them to go into a abandoned school and a demon possess them? Wouldn't the person that posted pics of a abandoned school be in the same situation? This minor stuff and "enticing a minor" talk /idea is really confusing to me.
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I would say technically yes (with heavy emphasis on technically), but realistically no.
A google definition of urban exploration is:
| the activity or pastime of exploring man-made structures, especially abandoned buildings and areas not generally open to the public. |
Streets are man-made structures so check off the first box.
But for "areas generally not open to the public", this is where things get tricky. Streets are typically open to the public but only if they are driving motor vehicles. Accessing streets via walking is technically illegal and not allowed. Thus when a person jaywalks across a street, they are accessing a man-made structure in a manner that is not open to people (aka walking instead of driving).
An example of this would be exploring subway tunnels. Using the proper transportation method of a subway car is perfectly allowed when traveling the subway system. However, attempting to access that same subway system via walking is very much not allowed. Jaywalking is like this but wayyy toned down.
So in conclusion, technically it is urban exploration. But realistically, you are just walking across a fucking street no it's not.
I can now take pride in the fact that I spent 15 minutes writing this ultimately useless post.
A collection of my explores:
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Posted by und3rlie
I can now take pride in the fact that I spent 15 minutes writing this ultimately useless post.
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 Right on! Basically you wrote the same thing as I did.
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Posted by und3rlie
I would say technically yes (with heavy emphasis on technically), but realistically no.
A google definition of urban exploration is:
Streets are man-made structures so check off the first box.
But for "areas generally not open to the public", this is where things get tricky.
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So I guess it was UE when I was sploring Cindy, Sheli, Alice, Wendy, Karen...
The midget hookers are generally open to the public so they don't count
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Posted by Abby Normal
Does talking about it amount to collusion?
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bahahahahaha!! yes
For everyone else: I refer you to Ninj on this subject of going places youre not supposed to go.
Technically the left turn lane on your typical 4 lane blvd is off limits to pedestrians as well as explorers...
Crosswalks = permission I say go for it!
LOL
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However, I just want to know if it "counts" as UE Im keeping score
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Absence of permission doesn't automatically mean UE and presence of permission doesn't automatic make it not UE.
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If your uncle Jack were stuck on a roof. And he asked for your help. Would you help your uncle Jack off? |
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Posted by und3rlie
But for "areas generally not open to the public", this is where things get tricky. Streets are typically open to the public but only if they are driving motor vehicles. Accessing streets via walking is technically illegal and not allowed. Thus when a person jaywalks across a street, they are accessing a man-made structure in a manner that is not open to people (aka walking instead of driving).
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One is allowed to cross the street on my own two feet under certain common circumstances (especially in localities where the vehicle code doesn't explicitly prohibit it, simply by crossing without blocking traffic). Ignoring the specific timing of the act, an individual gains the same net effect from crossing the street when it is open and when it is "not open to the public". The same cannot be said under the circumstances of your train tunnels analogy, where the effect is notably different.
In this way, I'd argue that simply jaywalking is not exploring by the definition, as you are not exploring a place beyond what is available to the general public at another common time.
All of that said:
Posted by und3rlie
But realistically, you are just walking across a fucking street no it's not.
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Urbex is a little like pornography. In the words of the US Supreme Court when defining the latter, "I'll know it when I see it."
"Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there.
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