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Guns and weapons are force multipliers. As are people... and force multipliers can quickly become liabilities. •A vehicle is a weapon and a force multiplier if used effectively. It can be a trap if you don't employ street smarts. •Always allow a least a car length of space ahead of you at all stops. Plan an escape route when coming to a stop; don't box yourself in. •Be aware at those around in cars and on foot. •Be very wary of people loitering at intersections; roll stop signs and red lights if needed if conditions warrant it. •Never let people come up on foot to your door; foot on the accelerator ready to go and have place to go. Do what needs done if shit goes south. Perps will put a piece in your face and a rolled up window won't stop it. •Don't allow drivers to pit you; keep people off your tail, along side of you and paralleling you. •Never drive along side of a big rig; either pass it or get a safe distance behind it. •Keep the driver window down; hear what's around you. •Make eye contact with others when appropriate like trying to get into a lane. Observe what other drivers are doing; holding their lane, tailgating, are the texting, etc.? •Always watch as far ahead as possible and as much as your mirrors provide. •Know what's going on around you. •Keep your chin up; if you're looking down your not looking ahead. •Clear all intersections even when you have the right away or light. •Give disable vehicles the lane so they have room and so others behind you can see them. •Keep the fucking phone down... multitasking in a myth. •Don't drive when you need to sleep, sleep.
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Don't drive when you need to sleep, sleep.
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^^^ This is for real. I fell asleep behind the wheel once and ended up hitting a median head-on. Fortunately, nobody else was hurt and I wasn't going very fast, but it still did thousands of dollars in damage to my car. I knew better and that was an incredibly stupid thing to do. Not quite as stupid as driving drunk, but pretty damn close.
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This is what almost killed my mom before I was even born (for those of you that have seen my Altus, OK car thread in the South forum, they were in a Thunderbird when this happened ). Dad was driving and mom was the passenger. They were in the far left lane cruising along next to a big rig that decided not to check his blind spot before changing into my parent's lane. His hubcap drilled right through my mom's door and almost went through her. The kicker was that the guy didn't even notice what he did and just kept cruising along at the same rate of speed after the two vehicles became unstuck and my parents were run off the road. I've always remembered that story and I never drive next to an 18-wheeler (except to pass or slow down). In conclusion.., my parent's Thunderbird didn't make it. I'm guessing it wasn't worth the money it would have cost at the time to repair it and they never located the trucker. This happened in the 1970's - before the government agencies and corporate HR departments had large stickers with neon 1-800 numbers affixed to every visible angle on their rigs inviting the public to, "Call us and tell us how we're doing!"
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Posted by Aran
I'd say leave the guns at home. If you can't explore safety without one, explore somewhere else.
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In my friend circles it's insane to me how they don't see this. I never bring anything and I always tell them not to. Guess what happens when we go exploring? One always has to bring a knife. I always think you shouldn't bring a knife unless you plan to use it, and if you plan to use it, you shouldn't be there in the first place. Just my opinion. Doesn't help that supposedly one of my friends buddies brought a knife and ended up getting slammed on the hood of a police car for carrying it. LI.
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Posted by Mazotes
In my friend circles it's insane to me how they don't see this. I never bring anything and I always tell them not to. Guess what happens when we go exploring? One always has to bring a knife. I always think you shouldn't bring a knife unless you plan to use it, and if you plan to use it, you shouldn't be there in the first place. Just my opinion. Doesn't help that supposedly one of my friends buddies brought a knife and ended up getting slammed on the hood of a police car for carrying it. LI.
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A knife can also be used for other things, which is why I always carry one. Those cops must not deal with real crime. All they have to do is hold onto it and give it back when you’re let go. Unless it’s an illegal knife. I’m sure he was slammed on the hood for another reason he isn’t telling you.
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Posted by Mazotes
In my friend circles it's insane to me how they don't see this. I never bring anything and I always tell them not to. Guess what happens when we go exploring? One always has to bring a knife. I always think you shouldn't bring a knife unless you plan to use it, and if you plan to use it, you shouldn't be there in the first place. Just my opinion. Doesn't help that supposedly one of my friends buddies brought a knife and ended up getting slammed on the hood of a police car for carrying it. LI.
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I suggest we change the name of this thread to Street Dumb In before the boats!
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Posted by Technomancer The safest way to explore is to exclusively bring people who talk incessantly on the internet about how badass they are.
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Well if youre in Canada 'eh theres no worries ya'll cant have guns or bad-asses up there can ya? hehehehehehehe...
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Posted by 2Xplorations
Sounds like something someone that's not allowed to own or carry a firearm would say. So, those that do carry only do so to make them feel like a badass? Meanwhile youre tough enough to roam south Chicago with only your bare knuckles I guess. Man that's Internet bad-assery for sure!
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First off, I legally can get a concealed carry permit, I just choose not to because I've never felt a need for one. Second off, it's not a matter of being badass, it's a matter of being smart. Exploring in a small group during daylight in weather conditions that force most people inside (such as extreme cold) minimizes your chances of running into people, and thus minimizing your chances of trouble. Conversely, statistics show that crime increases in hotter months, so exploring certain areas alone on a summer night is probably not a wise move.
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Posted by Rinzler
A knife can also be used for other things, which is why I always carry one. Those cops must not deal with real crime. All they have to do is hold onto it and give it back when you’re let go. Unless it’s an illegal knife. I’m sure he was slammed on the hood for another reason he isn’t telling you.
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I realized that's there's multiple uses for a knife, but it's the intention with why they're carrying a knife (which is what I have a problem with). Almost everyone I know that's gone exploring with me isn't carrying a knife to cut wires and such; their carrying a knife because they expect that they might have to defend themselves (and in the process, someone will be harmed). IMO, if you're expecting the possibility of being harmed or having to maim someone, I do not agree with you exploring there in the first place. For the second part, I think this is almost certainly location based. I'm from LI, and the cops here don't have a lot to do outside of a few towns (and New York is a lot more strict, legally, in some areas obviously). The area he was also exploring was also known to be a dumping ground for MS-13 members (I'm sure Islanders know what I'm talking about).
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Posted by Mazotes
I realized that's there's multiple uses for a knife, but it's the intention with why they're carrying a knife (which is what I have a problem with). Almost everyone I know that's gone exploring with me isn't carrying a knife to cut wires and such; their carrying a knife because they expect that they might have to defend themselves (and in the process, someone will be harmed). IMO, if you're expecting the possibility of being harmed or having to maim someone, I do not agree with you exploring there in the first place. For the second part, I think this is almost certainly location based. I'm from LI, and the cops here don't have a lot to do outside of a few towns (and New York is a lot more strict, legally, in some areas obviously). The area he was also exploring was also known to be a dumping ground for MS-13 members (I'm sure Islanders know what I'm talking about).
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Knifes makes good burglary toolz for urbex ...but for MS13 gang members I carry this, a vintage Frank Beltrame stiletto (switchblades are legal in Texas)
Posted by Aran
First off, I legally can get a concealed carry permit, I just choose not to because I've never felt a need for one. Second off, it's not a matter of being badass, it's a matter of being smart. Exploring in a small group during daylight in weather conditions that force most people inside (such as extreme cold) minimizes your chances of running into people, and thus minimizing your chances of trouble. Conversely, statistics show that crime increases in hotter months, so exploring certain areas alone on a summer night is probably not a wise move.
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Or if its too hot and crime is on the increase I might carry this one its stainless in case I get sweaty or there are people around .
but if I need to feel like a real bad ass I carry this it will also works on MS13
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Posted by Mazotes
I realized that's there's multiple uses for a knife, but it's the intention with why they're carrying a knife (which is what I have a problem with). Almost everyone I know that's gone exploring with me isn't carrying a knife to cut wires and such; their carrying a knife because they expect that they might have to defend themselves (and in the process, someone will be harmed). IMO, if you're expecting the possibility of being harmed or having to maim someone, I do not agree with you exploring there in the first place. For the second part, I think this is almost certainly location based. I'm from LI, and the cops here don't have a lot to do outside of a few towns (and New York is a lot more strict, legally, in some areas obviously). The area he was also exploring was also known to be a dumping ground for MS-13 members (I'm sure Islanders know what I'm talking about).
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If you pull a knife on someone you better know how to use it. If I pull my knife I'm planning to maim or kill*. Expect to get cut even if you win. If you're within 15 feet of a person with a knife your in striking range; they can close that gap and attack you in a second or two. Best advise if someone pulls a knife or gun, run. Always watch people's hands especially if they are not in plain sight. People are trouble; avoid contact whenever possible at sites. You can learn a lot about strangers by covertly observing them. However this is the Street Smart thread and you will deal with people whenever you leave your residence. Trouble can happen anywhere... and it can happen fast. How you react or don't can make the difference between being a victim or walking/driving away. More than one way to skin the cat, but doing nothing is not a good strategy. The only thing numbers guaranteed you is you'll be spotted easier and potentially considered a threat... not good if they're bangers and your on their turf. Distance buys you time; use that time wisely... distance is better to have than numbers De-escalation works with reasonable sane people... many are not especially if they are pissed. I'm always looking for an edge and weakness before it's needed. Psychological intimidation works with nuts and the sane You're primary objective is to avoid physical violence... whatever works is all that counts on the street. *I've pulled my knife on a bat crazy dog at a gate in order to secure the gate and 3 pit bulls on the street. With dogs just having an object in your hand is many times enough to stop them especially if they've been abused. It did. Mind you it wasn't just the knife that stopped them as I was standing them off, not running and cursing them as loud as I get... and wanting to kill them. Fear is not useful at all with K-9s; either makes friends with them or back them the fuck off. Whatever works is all that counts...
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'my other interests include reptiles'
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This is the last MS13 mofo I ran afoul of, messed up my good steak knife too bastard!
Next I will show some pics of one I ran over with my F150 yeee haaaw..
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man what the fuck is this website
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Posted by Pear man what the fuck is this website
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Haha. Best reply to this thread so far.
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Posted by Pear man what the fuck is this website
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Too many 40+ white men who need more hobbies and it sounds like need to be better at not flaunting easy money.
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Posted by uLiveAndYouBurn
Too many 40+ white men who need more hobbies and it sounds like need to be better at not flaunting easy money.
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I was actually born a poor black child. I worked my way up to rich white guy LOL this just keeps getting better. A bunch of MS13 lovers in here!
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Posted by Pear man what the fuck is this website
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I thought it was a place for you to prove your daddy took you exploring ! wtf indeed 1.
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Posted by uLiveAndYouBurn
Too many 40+ white men who need more hobbies and it sounds like need to be better at not flaunting easy money.
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When I take an earth grip the cats know it's blade licking time...
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Posted by blackhawk
When I take an earth grip the cats know it's blade licking time...
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nice pussy!
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