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Infiltration Forums > US: South > A forgotten cemetery(Viewed 829 times)
Ravid Day
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A forgotten cemetery
< on 1/27/2019 12:34 AM >
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The other day my manager told me about something that happened to a person that works on the janitorial night shift. She said the employee saw a woman walking down a corridor, it was after 8:00 pm and there should have been no one on campus at that time. So she began to follow her, the lady turns a corner and according to the janitor just vanished into a room that only had one way in or out. The rest of the night motion activated lights would cut on as though someone had walking down the hall or into darkened areas of the floor. Looking at the security recordings showed no one but the janitorial employee, but did show motion activated lights coming on in vacant areas on the 3rd floor. I am not a superstitious person, but my manager has told me she has heard foot steps and saw no one, a few other employees have also heard or seen things that were not normal in thier opinions. The fact that a person was electrocuted in the construction of the building or that a drunk man did jump off the top floor of the parking garage last year did not help the matter.
Then my boss had to add fuel to the fire by stating that she heard roomers that the building was built on a cemetery! Now the poop hit the fan. She knew I have access to a lot of county and city records and asked if I could do some snooping, I said sure.
Turns out there was a small cemetery that appeared on topo maps starting in 1918 and was there up until 1949, the 1957 survey did not show it, but, the 1961 survey did and it was the last time anything appeared on the Harris county maps. I figured the GPS location as 29.7828264, -95.6334882, typed it into my GPS and Google maps and holy hell!

This is the "Cemetery" symbol on the survey maps














The cemetery was right under our parking lot, there are no records saying if the graves were removed or if the cemetery was just lost and forgotten. It is interesting that in 1957 it did drop off the maps until 1961 and then never appear on any map again. Just maybe there is a ghost from over a hundred years ago walking the halls of this strange new building sitting on what was once thier farm.


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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 1 on 1/27/2019 4:09 PM >
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blackhawk
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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 2 on 1/27/2019 5:34 PM >
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They say the dead don't rest without a marker...



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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 3 on 1/27/2019 10:28 PM >
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Tell everyone there's some negro slaves buried there and the company will have to close down their parking lot.


Im not kidding.



Oh yes, almost forgot, BOOOOO!



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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 4 on 1/28/2019 4:08 PM >
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"roomers" lolllll



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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 5 on 1/28/2019 4:27 PM >
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Posted by 6ozy
"roomers" lolllll


room·er
/ˈro͞omər,ˈro͝omər
noun: roomer; plural noun: roomers
a renter of a room in another person's house.

ru·mor
/ˈro͞omər
noun
noun: rumour; plural noun: rumours; noun: rumor; plural noun: rumors
are currently circulating about story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth. "they were investigating rumors of a massacre"
synonyms: gossip, hearsay, talk, tittle-tattle; More
antonyms: hard facts

Seriously though - If I am reading the topo correctly, in addition to the cemetery coming and going, there was an approx 40' ridge present in 1949, it is gone in 1957, and returns again in 1961. With literal zero knowledge, I have to say the cartographer in 1957 made a mistake.

In regards to it now being a parking lot, I would indeed love to know what happened to the cemetery. I wouldn't say it is common, but it certainly is not unheard of for graves to simply be built upon in the past. Again, without any real knowledge, I feel there are laws against this today, but those could certainly vary from state to state.

A major interstate project here had a need to widen the freeway. Option #1 was to relocate portions of a 150+ year old catholic cemetery to the north, and a 100+ year old veterans cemetery to the south. Option #2 was to build a double-decker portion of freeway. Option #1 was selected, as it was cheaper, but the plans are currently on hold pending protest. For the time being, they added lanes by removing the shoulder/emergency lane.

While I understand sometimes shit is forced to happen in the name of progress, I think it is just horrible when graves are disturbed. I would quit my job before following through any orders to do so - I really think it would mentally disturb me for life knowing I got in the way of someone's "final" resting place. A fine justification for cremation in my book.


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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 6 on 1/28/2019 8:02 PM >
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I have asked a few engineers that were on campus during the buildings construction about the cemetery, they all assumed the graves were under the main building, they were surprised it was under the parking lot. The funny thing is, the parking lot was only going to be temporary. It was built only for construction parking and to have a place to keep the construction trailers, afterwards it was going to be dug up to make room for another high rise building but that project was canceled in 2014. As for the graves, more likely it was a small family grave yard, with out a name there is no way to find out if they are still there or if they removed.




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Re: A forgotten cemetery
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Posted by David Ray
I have asked a few engineers that were on campus during the buildings construction about the cemetery, they all assumed the graves were under the main building, they were surprised it was under the parking lot. The funny thing is, the parking lot was only going to be temporary. It was built only for construction parking and to have a place to keep the construction trailers, afterwards it was going to be dug up to make room for another high rise building but that project was canceled in 2014. As for the graves, more likely it was a small family grave yard, with out a name there is no way to find out if they are still there or if they removed.



A titleman could probably help dig up the original owner and maybe the records.
The grave records may also be tied to a church.
Fucking with graves pisses me off...



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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 8 on 1/28/2019 11:16 PM >
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Posted by blackhawk


A titleman could probably help dig up the original owner



DIG HIM UP

REMOVE HIS BONES


OOOOOOOOOOOOH GHOSTS!





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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 9 on 6/14/2019 12:53 AM >
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In Texas if there's a standing stone, the cemetery is protected by law. If there are no markers or if there are just a few and they are down, the cemetery is considered abandoned. Any remains excavated must be relocated and most of the time an archeologist must be consulted for a historical survey which usually takes a few weeks to a few months and just has to document enough graves to identify and record the site for historical records. Now, saying all that, a parking lot doesn't go down more than a few inches to a foot so it's unlikely to disturb any graves and trigger a survey or study. There are also many cases here in Texas where a less than scrupulous contractor or landowner will hire a few local boys to go in and tip the headstones so he can proceed with business. I know of one such case in Grapevine that had a few markers standing then overnight it seemed, a parking lot was built. Even the historical marker is gone now. Also, in this case, how many graves are we talking about? There are small family/pioneer plots all over the state where less than ten people were buried then it was forgotten.



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Re: A forgotten cemetery
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Posted by Dokk
In Texas if there's a standing stone, the cemetery is protected by law. If there are no markers or if there are just a few and they are down, the cemetery is considered abandoned. Any remains excavated must be relocated and most of the time an archeologist must be consulted for a historical survey which usually takes a few weeks to a few months and just has to document enough graves to identify and record the site for historical records. Now, saying all that, a parking lot doesn't go down more than a few inches to a foot so it's unlikely to disturb any graves and trigger a survey or study. There are also many cases here in Texas where a less than scrupulous contractor or landowner will hire a few local boys to go in and tip the headstones so he can proceed with business. I know of one such case in Grapevine that had a few markers standing then overnight it seemed, a parking lot was built. Even the historical marker is gone now. Also, in this case, how many graves are we talking about? There are small family/pioneer plots all over the state where less than ten people were buried then it was forgotten.


Talk about digging up the dead

There are also many Indians buried in the desert dunes in W Texas.
Occasionally the shifting winds uncover them.
It takes the coroner to confirm they aren't recently deceased.






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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 11 on 6/15/2019 11:13 AM >
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Posted by Dokk
In Texas if there's a standing stone, the cemetery is protected by law. If there are no markers or if there are just a few and they are down, the cemetery is considered abandoned. Any remains excavated must be relocated and most of the time an archeologist must be consulted for a historical survey which usually takes a few weeks to a few months and just has to document enough graves to identify and record the site for historical records. Now, saying all that, a parking lot doesn't go down more than a few inches to a foot so it's unlikely to disturb any graves and trigger a survey or study. There are also many cases here in Texas where a less than scrupulous contractor or landowner will hire a few local boys to go in and tip the headstones so he can proceed with business. I know of one such case in Grapevine that had a few markers standing then overnight it seemed, a parking lot was built. Even the historical marker is gone now. Also, in this case, how many graves are we talking about? There are small family/pioneer plots all over the state where less than ten people were buried then it was forgotten.


Where/when in Grapevine was this? I live in grapevine near the lake.



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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 12 on 6/15/2019 1:05 PM >
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My $0.02

Topographical maps are "drawn" from photogrammetric surveys, i.e. aerial photography.

Some person with a magnifying glass sitting at a large table interprets what they see. As opposed to being field checked (see benchmarks and permanent boundary markers).

I used to teach a compass course and map reading to boy scout and girl scout troops. You would be surprised at how this skill has been lost since GPS came on the scene. I guess they will have to offer a merit badge for learning how to plug in your Garmin now!

I also spent a great deal of time hunting and hiking using USGS 7.5 minute quad maps. I can tell you for a fact that many of the features on those maps are wrong, non-existent or several hundred yards away from where the map shows.

At the end of the day let sleeping bones lay. Only people that may care are relatives of the deceased. Many so called cemeteries in metro areas such as DFW have been forgotten and paved over. Real estate like that has sadly become too expensive for sentiment.



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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 13 on 7/21/2019 11:08 AM >
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If you visit St Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh, Scotland, John Knox grave was paved over and in the parking lot. He was founder of the Church of Scotland (the Presbyterian Church in the US).




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If you visit St Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh, Scotland, John Knox grave was paved over and in the parking lot. He was founder of the Church of Scotland (the Presbyterian Church in the US).




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Re: A forgotten cemetery
<Reply # 15 on 7/21/2019 11:09 AM >
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If you visit St Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh, Scotland, John Knox grave was paved over and in the parking lot. He was founder of the Church of Scotland (the Presbyterian Church in the US).




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