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Posted by bandi Here's a somewhat related question that I've always been curious about- what happens if the average dude buys an amateur radio setup at a yard sale and starts using it without a license... do the ham police come? One of the rally cars our team used to have had a Yaesu (?) rig installed in it, and one of the rally officials had an absolute meltdown because he was a ham operator and we weren't. We switched it to a marine radio for car to service crew communication and he had even more of a meltdown at the next race when he saw that.
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On HAM bands the HAMs will probably hear you and rat you out to the FCC if theyre in range UHF/VHF. Its not unheard of for HAMs to go vigilante and I have participated in many "transmitter hunts" using direction finder equipment. Once tracking down a bootleg operator on 2 Meter Band, another tracking a mobile pirate HF station, but HAMs have no enforcement power all they can do is call you in to the Feds. Even then the Feds have to hear (witness) you violating to take action. In a lot of cases I have heard of they confiscate any equipment whether or not its legal to own or not. https://www.fcc.go...ed-radio-operation Now if youre a member of a crack team of secret operator/infiltrators like our own little UER designer do-rag guy, you might be able to claim some exemption apparently he is exempted from arrest etc... Point is there are plenty of cheap legal ways to communicate by two way some licenses like GMRS for example are 10 bucks and postage.
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Posted by 2Xplorations Now if youre a member of a crack team of secret operator/infiltrators like our own little UER designer do-rag guy, you might be able to claim some exemption apparently he is exempted from arrest etc...
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Hehehe... that made me laugh. Anyway, thank you for the info, guys. Was always very curious about that. It's been a long time since I worked for the rally team but I believe I've still got a handheld marine radio somewhere in the boxes in my garage. I used it as a weather receiver for years.
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Posted by 2Xplorations Point is there are plenty of cheap legal ways to communicate by two way some licenses like GMRS for example are 10 bucks and postage.
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Only in the States, though. In Canada, GMRS is treated as an extension of FRS, so while it is fully public it also has significantly more restrictions on it (2W maximum, radios must be locked to GMRS/FRS frequencies, no repeaters, etc). As far as I know there is no equivalent to a US GMRS license in Canada - for most people, your (legal) options are the public HF frequencies (CB radio), or the public but locked FRS/GMRS frequencies. Beyond that, it's acquiring an amateur license and using those frequencies, which has it's own issues if all you want is point-to-point comms as everyone has to have their own license.
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Was wondering how long this would take to get their attention and action out of them. Just too easy to step into bands that you do not belong in. Sure is nice for those of us licensed to use as receive only or toy around with but opens the door to joe blow to cause real trouble with it. Ive seen them for sale at gun shows with the seller encouraging the buyers to transmit where they should not without a license. "for emergency use" you know.... Im sure someone stepped on a law enforcement or EMS broadcast and was somehow caught. Hell, it likely needed to happen multiple times for the FCC to actually act. Its a shame since they are not shabby for the price. Ive hit repeaters far further than I should have been able to. Guess I might have to pick up a few more before they get the ax....
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Posted by cavemonkey Its a shame since they are not shabby for the price. Ive hit repeaters far further than I should have been able to. Guess I might have to pick up a few more before they get the ax....
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Chances of FCC hearing you and then, even finding you on 2w or even 5w simplex is pretty low. Chances of them hearing you on a repeater? Much better. Keep your conversations short, change frequencies on a pre-arranged sched, don't use real names or locations.
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Posted by cavemonkey Its a shame since they are not shabby for the price. Ive hit repeaters far further than I should have been able to. Guess I might have to pick up a few more before they get the ax....
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Just ordered a UV-82 with shoulder mic, we'll see what the damage is.
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Posted by 2Xplorations
Chances of FCC hearing you and then, even finding you on 2w or even 5w simplex is pretty low. Chances of them hearing you on a repeater? Much better. Keep your conversations short, change frequencies on a pre-arranged sched, don't use real names or locations.
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No problem there since Ive got my tech ;)
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Posted by Gothic Ghoul
Just ordered a UV-82 with shoulder mic, we'll see what the damage is.
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Came in the mail today - shoulder mic is "ehh" Not locked down, still programmed with the usual preset. Transmit unlocked from the factory.
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Buy a Motorola ;). Baofengs are good but they can't scan many police departments with trunked systems but my old pal Mr XTS5000 can and boy is she pretty . I love radios to much..
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Posted by G10 Photography Buy a Motorola ;). Baofengs are good but they can't scan many police departments with trunked systems but my old pal Mr XTS5000 can and boy is she pretty . I love radios to much..
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Sure, what kind of idiot would buy a pack of two Baofeng (Puxing) GT-1s, complete with the usual accessories & programming cable, for $25 and then download free software like Chirp, when they could buy two 15-year old, used UHF R1 XTS5000 M1s for about $400, two NOS batteries for about $150, track-down a programming cable for about $25, and then be sure to get Astro-Portable CPS that's the same or never version than either radio was last programmed with! And then there's the joy of programming with Motorola CPS!
Yep, if you just wanted walkie-talkies for around 1 mile line of site max and that wouldn't be a big-deal if one got lost/ditched/damaged, go with Motorola & not Baofeng/Wounun/Puxing et al... /-/oolie (two Puxing GT-1s, 4 Baofeng 888s, 1 AnyTone 878, 3 Motorola XTS5000s, 1 Motorola XTS2500, 1 Motorola APX7000, 1 Motorola XPR7550e, 6 Motorola DTR650s)
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Sure, what kind of idiot would buy a pack of two Baofeng (Puxing) GT-1s, complete with the usual accessories & programming cable, for $25 and then download free software like Chirp, when they could buy two 15-year old, used UHF R1 XTS5000 M1s for about $400, two NOS batteries for about $150, track-down a programming cable for about $25, and then be sure to get Astro-Portable CPS that's the same or never version than either radio was last programmed with! And then there's the joy of programming with Motorola CPS!
(two Puxing GT-1s, 4 Baofeng 888s, 1 AnyTone 878, 3 Motorola XTS5000s, 1 Motorola XTS2500, 1 Motorola APX7000, 1 Motorola XPR7550e, 6 Motorola DTR650s)
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LOL! I have 2 Baofengs - the official radio of the Donbass War. I'm also the Ayatollah of Mototola. 10 STXs (800Mhz) 8 Mitreks (VHF) 5 System Sabers (all UHF} 4 MTS2000s (all 900MHz) 3 Astro Spectras (2 VHF, 1 UHF) 3 Maxtracs (VHF low, VHF high and 800MHz) 3 HT1000s (1 VHF, 2 UHF) 2 Astro Sabers (VHF and UHF) 2 Syntor X9000 (one is low band) 2 Spectras (VHF and UHF) 1 Railroad Spectra 1 Saber (VHF) 1 MCS2000 (900MHz) 1 MSF 5000 (UHF) 1 Quantar (UHF) 1 PAC-RT (UHF)
Posted by /-/ooligan And then there's the joy of programming with Motorola CPS!
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Posted by /-/ooligan
Sure, what kind of idiot would buy a pack of two Baofeng (Puxing) GT-1s, complete with the usual accessories & programming cable, for $25 and then download free software like Chirp, when they could buy two 15-year old, used UHF R1 XTS5000 M1s for about $400, two NOS batteries for about $150, track-down a programming cable for about $25, and then be sure to get Astro-Portable CPS that's the same or never version than either radio was last programmed with! And then there's the joy of programming with Motorola CPS!
Yep, if you just wanted walkie-talkies for around 1 mile line of site max and that wouldn't be a big-deal if one got lost/ditched/damaged, go with Motorola & not Baofeng/Wounun/Puxing et al... /-/oolie (two Puxing GT-1s, 4 Baofeng 888s, 1 AnyTone 878, 3 Motorola XTS5000s, 1 Motorola XTS2500, 1 Motorola APX7000, 1 Motorola XPR7550e, 6 Motorola DTR650s)
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Buy surplus dingbat, mine cane pretty programmed and with the software for only 200.
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I used to be all about Motorola, I probably still have some mobiles and HTs around somewhere. And an ancient DOS laptop that can run the Russian RSS on floppies with all the correct serial cables and assorted bullshit for programming. But as others have mentioned, the Chinesium radios are sooooo much easier to program, and to use, and cheaper... It's also a heck of a lot easier/cheaper to find extra batteries for something made in the last 5 years than for radios made 20 years ago!
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Posted by Freak It's also a heck of a lot easier/cheaper to find extra batteries for something made in the last 5 years than for radios made 20 years ago!
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Don't forget the battery shells that enable you to use AA batteries. Good luck powering a Motorola on a couple of Sunbeam!
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Posted by G10 Photography can't scan many police departments with trunked systems
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A loooooooooooooot of departments still use analog.
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Posted by /-/ooligan And then there's the joy of programming with Motorola CPS!
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As big of a pain as the CPS is, I've found Motorola's FPP to be incredibly easy to use. Shame it isn't more widely available. 2x XTS5000s (VHF & UHF) 2x XTS3000s (VHF & UHF) 1x BF-F8HP A few assorted SDRs
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