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Posted by sleeperspirit
No he was having all sorts of problems I guess and it took them awhile to figure out it was Lyme . They don't seem to take it too seriously around here actually .
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The doctor should have known better.
Even if you never saw a tick on you if you live in a hot spot ie neighbors have had it, be wary of it if symptoms arise.
Unfortunately not everyone gets the classic bullseye rash. Never ignore this sign regardless if you don't feel sick... you are.
Like syphilis if Lyme enters it's final stage it can invade the joints, brain and nervous system. Though it usually takes months it can happen in weeks. It becomes much more difficult to treat.
The bacteria aren't iron lovers like most human bacteria pathogens; they have an affinity for manganese which is found in cartilage. Hence they will many times attack the joints.
Fortunately Lyme's isn't as virulent as syphilis but it is a spirochete just like syphilis and can bore it's way into any tissue in the body.
It can also damage the cardiac nerves and permanently damage the heart in its final stage.
This can sometimes go undetected... with fatal results.
A very nasty customer
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Posted by blackhawk
Sorry to hear that.
How long it take them to diagnose it?
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They diagnosed it after he'd been in the hospital for a week, but he probably had it for a while before that (was feeling weak, shitty). The incubation period is up to 12 weeks. He never regained consciousness after the diagnosis.
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Posted by ahhntzville
Ticks are a really serious thing. My dad died last year from babesiosis, delivered by a tick, and none of us had any idea what it was until he was very advanced with it. Healthy, vibrant guy, only 68, gym every other day, gone in a month. Check yourself, and make sure everyone else checks themselves.
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My condolences
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there were so many at camp hero in montauk, I got one but i ripped it out, nasty shits
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Posted by ahhntzville
They diagnosed it after he'd been in the hospital for a week, but he probably had it for a while before that (was feeling weak, shitty). The incubation period is up to 12 weeks. He never regained consciousness after the diagnosis.
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That's sad and not that uncommon.
At that late stage and severity, a first rate ICU and aggressive intervention such as a full blood transfusion was needed. Even then it would have been dicey.
It's readily treatable if diagnosed and that's the trick. A state of the art teaching hospital such as HUP in Philly might have found it sooner and been successful.
Another reason it's important the doctor needs to know if you had contact with ticks... if you know
If anyone who has had a spleen removed needs to be very wary of ticks and Babesiosis.
https://en.m.wikip...rg/wiki/Babesiosis
Ticks are becoming a greater threat to humans in the US.
http://mobile.nyti...-against/?referer=
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Unfortunately SleeperSpirit is right... in my area (a definite hot spot for Lyme) they don't seem to take it very seriously.
You would think most doctors should be on top of that around here.
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Posted by CatAndTie
Unfortunately SleeperSpirit is right... in my area (a definite hot spot for Lyme) they don't seem to take it very seriously.
You would think most doctors should be on top of that around here.
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You need to get a better GP -before- they fail you.
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Posted by blackhawk
You need to get a better GP -before- they fail you.
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The scary thing is that I've heard this from many people around the area with multiple doctors.
It's like the last thing they ever think of/they just don't seem to take it very seriously.
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Posted by CatAndTie
The scary thing is that I've heard this from many people around the area with multiple doctors.
It's like the last thing they ever think of/they just don't seem to take it very seriously.
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Avoid those doctors! They're out of touch and out to lunch.
A good doc's office is always packed and you should wait almost always.
Good GPs are hard to find. They are the difference between a timely fix or lots of suffering, maybe death. If they are unsure, they will refer you to the right specialist.
My GP was up to speed on Lyme is 1997.
Medicine is an art not a science...
Get one that will take as much time as it takes when things get dicey. One that is constantly reading journals, is curious and old school dedicated.
Once sick you won't have the strength to do that... do it now and don't stop until you do.
If you are in or explore in a high risk area, find the best infectious disease specialist that is knowledgeable in tick borne illness... just in case.
If you get Lyme or RMSF it will feel like a train ran over you. You will be scraping the sidewalk sick... get your docs in a row before this happens.
If you get really sick with one of the killers especially hantavirus you will need the best ICU critical care hospital you can find to survive. Know which ones are within 300 miles, a regular hospital can kill you with good intentions and not enough specialized equipment/resources, and a broad spectrum of specialists.
HUP and Hersey Medical Center are two of the best in E PA.
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Stories like these make me glad to live in the UK where ticks are an almost non-existent pest.
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Posted by mookster
Stories like these make me glad to live in the UK where ticks are an almost non-existent pest.
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Give it time
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Posted by sleeperspirit
Give it time
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This sounds like a threat 
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Posted by CatAndTie
This sounds like a threat
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I sent a bout a dozen of this mo fos in a care package to London .
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Ticks arent just a eastern issue either, they are very common in the foothills and Rockies out west. one spot near jasper i had two of those fuckers on me.
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Posted by sleeperspirit
My family went to the Delaware water gap recreation area last year and each had almost a dozen ticks on us within a few hours... We left soon after that . We were on trails and everything not even in high grass or anything like that .
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There are a few abandoned structures in that area that do require hiking through some tall grasses, but luckily when I went, there were no ticks visible on me nor my friend afterwords.
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Posted by thetrainguru
Ticks arent just a eastern issue either, they are very common in the foothills and Rockies out west. one spot near jasper i had two of those fuckers on me.
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Of course, and all explorers should keep an eye out. Are ticks out there particularly worse than other years? Here in PA it was so bad already.
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Posted by CatAndTie
Of course, and all explorers should keep an eye out. Are ticks out there particularly worse than other years? Here in PA it was so bad already.
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Mild winters favor the tick as do large rodent populations.
Never kill rattlesnakes; they prey almost exclusively on rodents and thereby help break not the cycle of infection but also help eliminate a tick food source and nesting place.
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Just came across this thread as it hit home with me! Took a year and a half to diagnose my girlfriend with Lyme after she had been tested twice and was told it wasn't Lyme. Which led to weekly trips to NY to get 7 hours worth of IV to try and treat it. She now has to take about 30 pills a day. With what looks to be another awful summer in the northeastern region please make sure to check because they can fuck you up. Always check the areas where you wouldn't expect them, safe explores!
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Posted by Maineurbex
Just came across this thread as it hit home with me! Took a year and a half to diagnose my girlfriend with Lyme after she had been tested twice and was told it wasn't Lyme. Which led to weekly trips to NY to get 7 hours worth of IV to try and treat it. She now has to take about 30 pills a day. With what looks to be another awful summer in the northeastern region please make sure to check because they can fuck you up. Always check the areas where you wouldn't expect them, safe explores!
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If she is free of the bacteria and she should be after IV antibiotics, she is suffering from autoimmune disease induced by the Lyme bacteria.
The bacteria has an affinity for manganese not iron like most pathogenic bacteria. As a result it likes the attack the cartilage surfaces of joints which has a high manganese content.
It leaves unique protein markers behind even after its erraticated. They immune system targets these as an active infection and erroneously attacks the otherwise healthy tissue.
Further antibiotics are causing more harm than good. While they have anti-inflammatory properties which give some relief, prolonged use causes issues with the GI tract gut bacteria.
Generally this autoimmune reaction happens in people with a specific gene profile if the disease progresses to the third stage. This can happen rapidly in some which is why prompt treatment is needed.
In most of the people who develop this autoimmune reaction, it resolves by its self within 10 or so years.
This is from memory from years ago. More may be known now, research it.
Use DMSO 2X@day topically on the effected joints to cut the inflammation and pain.
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My trip to PA last weekend I found 3 on me, and my friend found 2. Then an hour later he felt another one and flicked it off. Def pay attention and if you wear boots get some boot blousers and seal up the your legs.
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