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From the same clown crew that burned Trump tower for everyone else.
“This accident really made me reconsider about scaling buildings.”
http://globalnews....t-hotel-vancouver/
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Upon reflection, I wonder am I being to hard on these guy's with my opinion?
I personally can say I've been urban exploring since around 2001. Not to say I didn't run around half built houses and such as a kid, but I don't really consider that urban exploration.
2001 that's going on 15 years of steady exploration. Those that know me from way back then may have said the same thing about me, and further as my photography has improved I have displayed images at galleries and in shows, I also admin a group with around 12k members. So as a ponder these guys and their many videos they have posted, I wonder is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I've never done any media interviews, never made an effort to reach out to media, not to say I've been approached though either.
All that said, having been in the urbex "scene" for as long as I have, and there are also a bunch of you on here who also have, I wonder is my cantankerous attitude just that of an aging urban explorer ranting about the damn kids today?
I think there is more to it, I feel there has been a real shift in the paradigm of urban exploration in some ways, I believe it is as a result of the proliferation of media in all its forms. In the old days the photographers were a minority and the rest of us just sort of took snaps to prove we had been there. Now I feel like the main reason people urban explore is to take photo's. It's evident even on this site where picture of the day threads are more popular and people write and share less about the act of urban exploration.
So all of that said, I don't know, I guess everyone explores in their own way. One thing is for certain that urban exploration from the old webring days has blown up into a global phenomena.
I guess the most coherent thought I've pulled about this video in terms of comments I have posted other places is this;
"I'm ok with some mitigated risk, but this misadventure was pure folly, a near guarantee of failure and injury. It is No good for anybody heating sites out in this manner. I'm willing to bet donuts to dollars The Hotel Vancouver will now be conducting a full security audit, not to mention what it does to other buildings and sites when they see this kind of dangerous behavior in the media."
In terms of passing judgement on these individuals, I guess when I look really hard in the mirror I'm not sure I have the right. I guess I just maybe long for the good old simpler times before I was constantly reading stories in the news.
I would really welcome hearing some other opinions.
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I wonder if you've touched on a general shift in attention span. In the past few years, I found myself having a hard time reading a book without pausing to look something related up. A location, a time period, an idea.
On here, the longer stuff has mostly been displaced by an impact optimizing function, myself included. You post the one shot/video that you think will get you the most points, and a fall will do nicely.
So yeah, I think it is old man ranting. It's a faster and shorter world now.
That said, I really enjoyed reading things like reduxzero's site and one-off zine. I'd also like to get my hands on some 5100s and I wish billgeorge would post more often. I'm all for less glamour shots and more content like that, but I'm aging too and we're all just trying to keep up with the kids.
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My part of the world has faced very different challenges, only very recently being exposed to this sort of daredevil climber.
Anyway, UE faces a challenge where if you can't beat them, join them. When big groups started treating abandonments and similar places as clown cars, I just bought a clown suit and joined in.
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This guy tried to climb an SO cord used for temporary power! Unbelievable idiocy. This is a construction site; no one ever rigs temp power to hold any weight at all. Learn what the fuck you are doing before you risk your life doing it. Oh wait, they saw it on the internet and then just went out and did it.
Can't help someone with no common sense.
I went back and read the article completely. The guy has a medical condition that causes lack of strength in his arms? And he's climbing power cords? If losing his grip doesn't kill him, then climbing that kind of shit will.
[last edit 4/17/2016 9:27 AM by freeside - edited 1 times]
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Urban exploration has often been, and probably will continue to be, picked up by news outlets as an easy, attention-grabbing story. Since at least 2001. That's not new.
In this case, I find it interesting that this dated video is being presented as "news". That this overhyped, lazy re-posting of someone else's self-aggrandizing video is what passes for official news these days is what makes me sick.
For his part, Joseph is actually telling us an interesting story about his exploit, albeit with a Go-Pro video instead of written words. Can't really fault him for that. True, it does look incredibly stupid to try and scale the side of a building using an extension cord. But some of his other videos also seem pretty stupid- and they end without falling. One person's risk is another's picnic. I wouldn't dare climb any of the stuff he does. But just like everyone here, he puts his adventures up online for anyone to view; and we do, because it's damn exciting. It really doesn't matter if he's 'just there for the photos', as I don't know how anyone involved in this hobby can lay claim to any moral high ground.
I know what you're saying about how the presentation of this exploration 'feels different'. I think so, too, but I suspect it has more to do with how quickly media can be spread than the message itself. Back in the day, we were sharing photos with friends, zines with strangers, websites with everyone- but the community felt smaller, the exposure more limited (except for a few shining UE stars out there). Perhaps the balance today is that, with so much media, most people are so overwhelmed that they can't pay attention to but a fraction of what's available. One 'news' story is quickly replaced by the next piece of click-bait.
I know I have a solid case of "old man syndrome". But I'm not so set in my ways that my opinions can't evolve. Those 'damn kids today' are doing some cool shit, and that's great, because I don't get out like I used to.
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You guys are so bang on with this being completely irresponsible and just a terrible decision in the eyes of the UER community. Its a shame that this is the way we Explorers are going to be portrayed for the next few years unless something changes in the mind of the youth or this hobby goes underground again as it was many many years ago before the explosion of the so called "Free climber" stunts you can easily find and watch on youtube. I feel people do not see this as risks because they are not properly educated in safety when doing such stunts. If people spent as much time educating themselves in engineered structures, rope work and basic 3 point contact when abseiling or rappelling instead of making videos for there ego boost people might not be dying from such mistakes.
If we were to look back at the early climbers of the yoho national park days they too thought they could never die/fall and boy were they sadly mistaken and even they were doing things as "safe" as possible, using that term loosely (on lsd and such) haha. But back to the main point, what do you guys think of the use of such gear when doing things already extremely dangerous like climbing engineered structures and do you use such gear yourself?
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Posted by freeside
This guy tried to climb an SO cord used for temporary power! Unbelievable idiocy. This is a construction site; no one ever rigs temp power to hold any weight at all. Learn what the fuck you are doing before you risk your life doing it. Oh wait, they saw it on the internet and then just went out and did it.
Can't help someone with no common sense.
I went back and read the article completely. The guy has a medical condition that causes lack of strength in his arms? And he's climbing power cords? If losing his grip doesn't kill him, then climbing that kind of shit will.
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Holy greasy tacos for brains Batman!
He's working up to sploring a morgue.
That video damaged some of my neurons...
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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