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Re: Angel Island Backpacking
<Reply # 20 on 1/8/2016 3:48 PM >
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Posted by dashsquared

As for the command center, I don't think there was one at this particular one.



Some Nike sites used portable vans for the command center as was the case here; this is an atypical site because of the vans versus a permanent command center. No Nike site is the same; each is unique to thwart mass sabotage attempts.

Eight years after Fort McDowell was closed, Army Engineers were once again constructing an artillery emplacement on Angel Island, for the third time in the island’s history. This emplacement, however, was for a much different type of artillery than had been placed on the island by the engineers in 1864 and 1898. A Nike anti-aircraft missile site, one of eleven Nike batteries built in the Bay Area during the Cold War, was placed on the southeast corner of the island, just behind Point Blunt. The missile battery was manned by Battery D of the 9th Army Antiaircraft Artillery Regiment.

The battery had three launching sections, each one with four missiles launchers, and was armed with Nike-Ajax missiles, liquid-fueled missiles carrying TNT warheads, with a range of approximately 40 miles. Each launching section had an underground magazine that could hold up to a dozen missiles, which were raised to the surface by hydraulic elevators, then placed on the launchers. On top of Mount Ida (now known as Mt. Livermore) the highest point on the island, was flattened for radar equipment, an Integrated Fire Site was constructed, with three radars, two control vans, a generator building and a “ready room.”

About 100 men were stationed on the island, with the enlisted men housed in the old Post Hospital of Fort McDowell. The missiles became obsolete in 1962, and the battery was abandoned. The closing of the missile site – one year short of a century after the 3rd Artillery established Camp Reynolds – marked the last time Angel Island would be used for military purposes.





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Re: Angel Island Backpacking
<Reply # 21 on 1/8/2016 4:15 PM >
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Awesome location. I love the streets of the empty buildings. That's like heaven for us.



thanks for giving it a try
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Re: Angel Island Backpacking
<Reply # 22 on 1/10/2016 5:07 AM >
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/-/ooligan location:
Las Vegas area
 
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Re: Angel Island Backpacking
<Reply # 23 on 1/13/2016 6:14 AM >
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Posted by blackhawk
Each Nike base plan is different. No two are the same. This was done to prevent easy cookie cutter sabotage. Some had greater levels of security including attack K-9s.


Excuse my bluntness (or not...), but dude, you're clueless!

Nike Ajax & Nike Hercules Launch Battery & Integrated Fire Control complexes
mostly followed a standard layout design, but took into account local terrain & also how much land the US Army Corps of Engineers was able to purchase for the sites. Most are basically the same. Biggest differences were that some sites were able to use non-appropriated funds the build things for crew morale & welfare improvements. A good example is Nike SF-51L, which was able to use non-appropriated funds & volunteer labor to build a chapel (using standard Army Chapel construction blueprints to save $$) on the site. Also the proximity to the major support base would determine whether the site would have a family housing area nearby & how big the Admin area was. The "SAC" Nike sites were the most unique launch batteries.

I think all the Nike installations -- certainly the Hercules Batteries -- had Sentry dogs to guard the magazine area.

The reality is "cookie cutter sabotage" would have been relatively easy, and not because the sites shared the same basic layout. A determined saboteur could have shut down the Launch Battery by shooting the Missile Tracking RADARs and control vans at the associated IFC, and those vans/antennas would clearly stand out even if they deliberately didn't use a "cookie cutter" to design the sites. The MTRs provided critical guidance information to the Nike missiles during & after launch.


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Re: Angel Island Backpacking
<Reply # 24 on 1/13/2016 6:51 AM >
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The original Nike system was designed to be portable. That's why the IFCs used control vans on leveled platforms, sometimes backed-up to interconnecting corridors.

Cite some "command centers" that do not do this. You can't, because the "command centers" didn't exist -- they're called IFCs, and the IFCs were linked to Army Air Defense Command Posts (AADCP).

You then PLAGIARIZED the Angel Island data by cutting & pasting it from one of numerous web pages. In your case, it seems like plaigerizimg would be the best method for you to post accurate material, but there's an error in the work you stole, too! The three warheads each Nike Ajax had weren't based on TNT. TNT was too unstable, not suited for the tremendous physics it would need to endure (acceleration/G-force, etc.) and by 1950s standards, wasn't really a High Explosive.

There's plenty of accurate resource material about the Nike program available for free viewing on web, plus lots of books out there. I'm not trying to bash you, however you're posting utter BS which other people may assume is correct. I'm no Nike expert, I'm just a halfway intelligent person who has explored/documented dozens of the sites, and read-up on the program.

/-/ooligan

Posted by blackhawk


Some Nike sites used portable vans for the command center as was the case here; this is an atypical site because of the vans versus a permanent command center. No Nike site is the same; each is unique to thwart mass sabotage attempts.

Eight years after Fort McDowell was closed, Army Engineers were once again constructing an artillery emplacement on Angel Island, for the third time in the island’s history. This emplacement, however, was for a much different type of artillery than had been placed on the island by the engineers in 1864 and 1898. A Nike anti-aircraft missile site, one of eleven Nike batteries built in the Bay Area during the Cold War, was placed on the southeast corner of the island, just behind Point Blunt. The missile battery was manned by Battery D of the 9th Army Antiaircraft Artillery Regiment.

The battery had three launching sections, each one with four missiles launchers, and was armed with Nike-Ajax missiles, liquid-fueled missiles carrying TNT warheads, with a range of approximately 40 miles. Each launching section had an underground magazine that could hold up to a dozen missiles, which were raised to the surface by hydraulic elevators, then placed on the launchers. On top of Mount Ida (now known as Mt. Livermore) the highest point on the island, was flattened for radar equipment, an Integrated Fire Site was constructed, with three radars, two control vans, a generator building and a “ready room.”

About 100 men were stationed on the island, with the enlisted men housed in the old Post Hospital of Fort McDowell. The missiles became obsolete in 1962, and the battery was abandoned. The closing of the missile site – one year short of a century after the 3rd Artillery established Camp Reynolds – marked the last time Angel Island would be used for military purposes.








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Re: Angel Island Backpacking
<Reply # 25 on 1/26/2016 9:35 PM >
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I've been down in that Nike magazine.

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