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Hey guys new to the forum here and thought I might make use of the community by just asking yall, am planning a trip to Galveston to explore the brewery and bank and was just wondering since it is a bit of a trip for me if both of them are easily accessible? Wasn't too concerned about the brewery but the bank I expect will be hard Moshe if you have any input it would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone has any other recommendations for while I'm in Galveston that would be great but I can see how yall are about giving away locations so if not that's fine too. Anyways thanks in advance.
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No to all of it.
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There are several threads here about both of these locations. Go to the search function of the website menu and check "Galveston". You will see not only whats been going on with these but any other sites you may want to visit. The UE DB (non-member) is also somewhat useful although most of the info there are sites that are no longer there or renovated but not all.
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Posted by theduckling
Also if anyone has any other recommendations for while I'm in Galveston that would be great but I can see how yall are about giving away locations so if not that's fine too.
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Follow Peptic's advise and use the Database to find what you're looking for. Most folks here won't give out information until they personally know you and consider you a friend.
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Posted by theduckling
...am planning a trip to Galveston to explore the brewery and bank..
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It's too late for either, unfortunately. Development has moved forward on both and there are people at both sites nearly everyday.
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The brewery was fine got some great shots but just as we were going to the best roof top we heard people running up the stairs and freaked out hid but a few minutes later we crept out and went down the stairs and didn't run into anyone? We assume it was other urbexers we scared off. They had definitely started work but it wasn't a waste of time in my eyes. Bank was a complete bust no easy way in for sure and if construction has begun on it that makes me sad that I missed out on it. Looked like such a cool place. We ended up taking a ferry to port bolivar though during sunset and getting some good shots there and then on to a military fort of some kind I want to say Travis? Anyways it was a great trip.
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@peptic @tiffers these locations aren't in the database and the ones that are I don't even think exist anymore for the most part...
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Maybe you've forgotten how truly outdated the public DB has become most of the locations I've seen on it have been demolished
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Posted by theduckling
@peptic @tiffers these locations aren't in the database and the ones that are I don't even think exist anymore for the most part...
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they're definitely in the database But you can't see them because you're not a full member. As a basic member you can only see about 1/3 of the locations listed.
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I'm aware of my limited access and am now realizing that tiffers and peptic are referring to the search feature as the database? I was thinking of the database as the map nearly solely consisting of old locations you can no longer visit for my region. I would like to thank tiffers and peptic for their kindness in this seemingly horrible hierarchy of "veteran explorers" swearing that their vow of silence and excommunication of nearly all newcomers "preserves" their hobby. I will now revert to sifting through old posts with the search function as it is seemingly my only option to make use of this as a resource in any way.
Thanks and apologies all around
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Posted by theduckling
I'm aware of my limited access and am now realizing that tiffers and peptic are referring to the search feature as the database? I was thinking of the database as the map nearly solely consisting of old locations you can no longer visit for my region. I would like to thank tiffers and peptic for their kindness in this seemingly horrible hierarchy of "veteran explorers" swearing that their vow of silence and excommunication of nearly all newcomers "preserves" their hobby. I will now revert to sifting through old posts with the search function as it is seemingly my only option to make use of this as a resource in any way.
Thanks and apologies all around
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The reason for the "hierarchy" is because a lot of times people on this forum are here for the wrong reasons. Scrapppers look for new locations to steal from. Vandals look for new places to trash and even the police have been known to come to this forum. the secrecy about the locations is not to be a jerk but it's about actually protecting location and protecting the opportunities for other explorers to get inside. I've seen it countless times where someone posts a location and a week later the location is completely trashed. when people use names of locations in their posts it pops up in Google searches. a lot of new explorers don't understand this and get upset when people are apprehensive about sharing locations with them.
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It almost sounds as if you wish to preserve these places in a state you or someone else has deemed desirable? I can already tell that I have no hope of changing these predisposed intuitions you seem to have against the idea of allowing any and all who wish to see these places for any reason other than the ones you see fit of a means to do so, but let me ask you this. What is it about these places that captivates you? Is it walking into them and seeing everything the same as it was before seemingly frozen in time? Does it irk you to walk in and see that an artist of some sorts has come in during your absence and used one of its cherished walls as a means of expression? Does it make you sad to see a beautiful historical landmark gutted and demolished to build a high rise, parking garage, or penitentiary? These changes you frown upon are one of the most beautiful aspects of life, and while change makes many sad it is the way of the world and the elegance of wonder. Each time you visit these places do you hope nothing has changed? That is hardly an adventure and far from exploration. You say that "oh well the cops and stuff yadda yadda known to frequent these forums" If you practice what you preach more often than not they will simply ask you to leave the property. One could even argue that the individual who keeps them off the property to begin with is worse than the individual who ends their time there early. Who are you to rob people of their time in these wonderous places you keep secret?
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Oh lord, here we go.
Duckling, it's good to see new folks on here, and I'm glad that you feel that you are fairly responsible about your own use of the info here, and indeed appear to be so. That being said, not everyone is. It's generally known that the scrappers, vandals, and other people who wreck really special locations tend not to have the attention span required to do real-world research or build a network of friends, and the "hierarchy" that you think you've seen are simply the people who have put the (significant) time and effort into this hobby required to do one or both of those things really well. One of the great perks of being able to do research away from the comfort of your computer desk and/or having actual exploring friends is being able to find or ask about info on locations. All the stuff on this forum originally came from someone doing hard work, and asking people who don't know you to give up that hard-earned information will inevitably make some people really unhappy with you, for various reasons.
The "you're doing it wrong" mentality seems to be pretty common to new people here, but this site has over a decade of history, and has built up its own practices and norms. Believe it or not, things are they way they are here for a reason. You even appear to be aware of many of them. I recommend you try going with the flow and actually attempting to come to grips with why these behaviors exist before acting like you're going to single-handedly change the prevailing opinion of many here.
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It almost sounds as if you wish to preserve these places in a state you or someone else has deemed desirable? I can already tell that I have no hope of changing these predisposed intuitions you seem to have against the idea of allowing any and all who wish to see these places for any reason other than the ones you see fit of a means to do so, but let me ask you this. What is it about these places that captivates you? Is it walking into them and seeing everything the same as it was before seemingly frozen in time? Does it irk you to walk in and see that an artist of some sorts has come in during your absence and used one of its cherished walls as a means of expression? Does it make you sad to see a beautiful historical landmark gutted and demolished to build a high rise, parking garage, or penitentiary? These changes you frown upon are one of the most beautiful aspects of life, and while change makes many sad it is the way of the world and the elegance of wonder. Each time you visit these places do you hope nothing has changed? That is hardly an adventure and far from exploration. You say that "oh well the cops and stuff yadda yadda known to frequent these forums" If you practice what you preach more often than not they will simply ask you to leave the property. One could even argue that the individual who keeps them off the property to begin with is worse than the individual who ends their time there early. Who are you to rob people of their time in these wonderous places you keep secret?
The more the merrier.
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haha, wow ok. you know, if you put that much effort into finding abandonments as you have complaining about how nobody is going to hold your hand and lead you to a location. You wouldn't have to be here asking for handouts from other members.
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| It almost sounds as if you wish to preserve these places in a state you or someone else has deemed desirable? |
Yes
| I can already tell that I have no hope of changing these predisposed intuitions you seem to have against the idea of allowing any and all who wish to see these places for any reason other than the ones you see fit of a means to do so |
You are correct - you have no hope in this respect.
| What is it about these places that captivates you? |
I presume that this is a rhetorical question as you continue on with specific inquiries relating to the original question however if you truly wish to flush out this topic there are several public threads relating to it.
| Is it walking into them and seeing everything the same as it was before seemingly frozen in time? |
For me - yes.
| Does it irk you to walk in and see that an artist of some sorts has come in during your absence and used one of its cherished walls as a means of expression? |
Yes.
| Does it make you sad to see a beautiful historical landmark gutted and demolished to build a high rise, parking garage, or penitentiary? |
Yes
| Each time you visit these places do you hope nothing has changed? |
I believe that this is the same question you asked previously (Is it walking into them and seeing everything the same as it was before seemingly frozen in time?). I would direct you to my answer there.
| Who are you to rob people of their time in these wonderous places you keep secret? |
I'm not certain but I do not believe that anyone here has robbed you of your "time in these wonderous places". If you consider the withholding of information robbery I cannot understand your point. How can one be robbed of something he doesnt possess? If someone from this site has physically restrained you from entering a location I believe the proper legal authorities as well as the moderators of this site should be immediately informed.
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These words were inspired by a kind, well meaning, unnamed individual of this forum whom I thank for their support throughout this endeavor this past week.
The anger towards this community stems from my preconceived notion as a long time lurker that many of the higher ups on this forum are combative, argumentative, know-it-alls. This is not a made up fact I knew how many of you acted towards newcomers before I ever even posted and have even found some of the users instagrams and reddit accounts through cross referenced photos or names.(This could be viewed as threatening but that isn't what I intended.) You call me a know-it-all simply because I came here with open eyes and didn't sugar coat my feelings. I made a simple post. I didn't ask for locations knowing how everyone felt about that. I didn't post hey i'm going to the @band0n3d 8r3w3ry in G@lv3st0n on ??rd street #googlekeywords #urbex. (see what I did there? your welcome.) And how was I greeted? By a veteran of the forum I might add, who should be more of a model and I would expect to be nice among the hazing new full members rather than the backwards environment you currently have.
It also angers me when I go into a location and see the tags with obvious relations to the usernames of members of this forum, not because I have a problem at all with painting, but because it's so clear to me that this community isn't even what these moderators as I would refer to them make it out to be. In addition, that these people got away with something I couldn't. I had to work hard to find some of my places and I make up that it was given to them on a silver platter from your database.
I don't wish to argue or preach to anyone about these matters, least of all any of you. I simply wish to be accepted and not given a hard time. You ask me to lighten up and maybe I'm stubborn but I simply will not conform to what this forum wishes me to act like when it is so blatantly obvious that many of the full members are in fact not who they pretend to be on these pages.
Anyone can find plenty of locations through a simple google search, surely enough to post photos to this site and gain entry to your clearly undermined societies precious database.
I will not show you anything but the real me and if worst comes to worst I will simply be back at square one on google earth combing through the streets.
Don't mistake what I have said here to mean that I don't think any of the people on this site should not have access to this site.
I apologize seeing as how I most likely forced this conversation out of anger from my original well thought out to me post that I didn't think broke any of your rules being met with immediate disapproval, and newly full members warnings.
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Welcome to the community. But with an attitude like that you won't last. You should be coming in here humble, regardless of how long you have been exploring. But you can't just come in here and start asking locations without developing some rapport in the community. We've all had to do it. It looks selfish and lazy to only ask locations and not contribute otherwise. And getting defensive is the worst thing you can do here. Typically we are going to be apprehensive in public, helpful in private. You would be eaten alive in the Northeast. So hang out some, talk to some members individually and keep exploring. But understand we have developed some norms and unwritten rules about posting and etiquette. You would do well to read through the rookie forums.
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