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As I've said, if it's a real police officer, I'll do whatever that officer wants me to do. I mean, fuck, I REALLY AM just wandering around, taking photos. Sure I may have a few beers in my cooler and a pinch or two of a questionable herbal substance on my person but I'm not costing anyone a dime with what I do. I don't steal shit and I don't break shit.
If confronted with a security-guard situation, I'll politely remove myself from their responsibility as quickly as I am able (i.e., "run away!") but if one finger is laid upon my person by a non-law enforcement official, that finger may come out in my poop later.
"Are you happy now with all the choices you've made?" "Are there times in life when you know you should've stayed?"
"Will you compromise and then realize the price is too much to pay?" "Winners and losers... which one will you be today?"
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Posted by Radical_Ed
but if one finger is laid upon my person by a non-law enforcement official, that finger may come out in my poop later.
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That is to imply you would *eat* the finger in question, right?
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Posted by 13thmurder
That is to imply you would *eat* the finger in question, right?
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Ed is graphicly stating not to fuck with him if you don't have the authority to do so, NE style 
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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AlwxzndrD10's thread about the world getting smaller got me thinking, so now I'm doing thread necromancy.
With the rise of social media and people trespassing to get their hit of instagram glory, has there been a shift in the way cops and security guards treat urban explorers? It seems to me they might be more inclined to hand out harsher punishments in an attempt to discourage people from flouncing into potentially dangerous places.
And if guards and cops are fed up with attention whores, is it now a generally bad idea to say you're there to take pictures or scout for a photoshoot?
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I'm going to add something I haven't seen mentioned yet- make sure you are not followed back to your car. The one time I was caught, I was followed several blocks back to my vehicle, and they boxed me in to record my license plate. They then forwarded my license plate number to the cops, and sent a deputy to my front door.
I was able to talk my way out of it because I was polite to the officer, told him the truth without incriminating myself (only admit to what you were caught doing), and because he thought the whole thing was a tremendous waste of his time.
Still, make sure to lose any followers. Overzealous security guards can and will stalk you for quite some time just to get you in trouble.
Posted by Rhincewind
With the rise of social media and people trespassing to get their hit of instagram glory, has there been a shift in the way cops and security guards treat urban explorers?
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I was actually just reading a thread on Reddit where a cop said that body cams take away a lot of their power of discretion. The example was "if I let this homeless starving shoplifter go but arrest the entitled idiot, then I end up in massive trouble for not treating them both equally regardless of circumstance."
Something to bear in mind.
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"Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there.
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Another thing to consider, if you read Access All Areas it says not to admit you knowingly did anything wrong.
"You: I'm really sorry officer, I didn't think I would be causing any problems because this building is abandoned. I'm just taking some pictures but if it's a problem I'll go home.
Cop: You cannot be on this property, it's dangerous and illegal. Go home and don't let me catch you here again."
According to that book, people would much rather believe you're an idiot than that you intentionally broke the law/rules.
To cite an example from the book:
You passed a sign that says "Area is alarmed" and someone caught you.
You:"I saw a sign back there that said the area was alarmed. I'm trying to find my way out of the alarmed area because why the hell would I want to stay in an alarmed area!?"
Be an idiot, not a criminal
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Posted by Rhincewind
With the rise of social media and people trespassing to get their hit of instagram glory, has there been a shift in the way cops and security guards treat urban explorers? It seems to me they might be more inclined to hand out harsher punishments in an attempt to discourage people from flouncing into potentially dangerous places.
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So actually, interesting story relating to this. I was exploring a construction site for a nearly completed high-rise, and was caught and ticketed while wandering around. This was after a relatively large news story came out about a certain instagrammer that got stuck on top of a crane and had to be rescued. There was then a lengthy lecture about how it was dangerous and how the police was fed up with these "dumb teenagers" going places they shouldn't, including where I happened to be exploring.
The officer mentioned that they had to be harsher on everyone because there had been such an increase on that sort of thing since the crane girl story broke, and I'd like to think I could've gotten off scott-free had other people not been caught there before...
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I was stopped by four staties outside of a big hospital. They came out of nowhere completely silent. Stupid mistake- shouldn't have gone on a weekday. Anyway the land was public property and as sketchy as we looked, the cops couldn't do anything since we weren't caught going inside a building. I basically ended up telling them we were going hiking in the nearby trails. I'm sure they didn't believe it? Honestly if I was caught by one cop in a more open area I probably would've run.
LSS: Only lie if you can get away with it, and do NOT stick around.
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Posted by xNat
This was after a relatively large news story came out about a certain instagrammer that got stuck on top of a crane and had to be rescued.
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This sounds hilarious. Can you please link this article if possible?
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never mind. found it.
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I work for a security company now and some tips may help if you're confronted* by security.
*This may vary by security post orders, region, or even individual security officer.
1. Be respectful- Security tends to get a bad rap in the world especially so far after 9/11. Most people don't much care for security and based on individual experiences that may be understandable. But helping yourself out by giving a little respect may net you some leeway with them.
2. Lying- I swear I work with some human lie detectors, they can smell bullshit from a mile away. So if you dare you can lie to them but don't always expect to get away with it.
3. Human infallibility- some officers are just lazy, it's part of the human experience. If they cut you some slack you should take it, the paperwork load for processing someone for trespassing can be high.
I hope this helped just a little.
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Usually if security, just ignore them and leave. If its a cop stop and let your balls be busted.
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Posted by mortifer
Usually if security, just ignore them and leave. If its a cop stop and let your balls be busted.
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Preach
It's better to be embarrassed than arrested.
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I think cops/security probably don't want to do any more paperwork than they need to so if you're polite and respectful they'll generally let you go.
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