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Infiltration Forums > US: Pacific Southwest > Refinery - LA(Viewed 2155 times)
Bikeski location:
Los Angeles, California
 
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Refinery - LA
< on 4/3/2015 11:04 PM >
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1. The landscape

2. Tar in one of the towers so thick you can walk on it.

3. Blurry photo of tar-y oil shit.

4. The future of technology

5. Dated July 1990









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Re: Refinery - LA
<Reply # 1 on 4/6/2015 4:23 AM >
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wow really,no security or you just avoided them with ninja skills



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Bikeski location:
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Re: Refinery - LA
<Reply # 2 on 4/6/2015 1:16 PM >
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Posted by Zombi951
wow really,no security or you just avoided them with ninja skills




I stayed on my side, they stayed on theirs...



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Re: Refinery - LA
<Reply # 3 on 4/7/2015 12:57 AM >
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Posted by Bikeski




I stayed on my side, they stayed on theirs...


cool




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Re: Refinery - LA
<Reply # 4 on 4/11/2015 3:30 PM >
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Nice find, but a couple things to keep in mind from someone who grew up next to and worked at a SoCal refinery, and still lives near one.

1) H2S gas - If you smell something like rotten eggs, you have seconds to exit. The saying is, "First whiff warns you, second whiff you're dead!"

2) All refinery's, operating or not, are under the jurisdiction of the Department of Homeland Security. Refinery's are considered potential terrorism target sites. Meaning, entry to and photographing the refinery is a serious offense, and one not to be taken lightly.

Recently, at the Chevron refinery, a guy was arrested for flying a drone nearby. It turns out he was taking pictures of a nearby building for a real estate deal, but he lost his equipment and was arrested.

Just putting this out there.


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Dav  location:
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Re: Refinery - LA
<Reply # 5 on 4/17/2015 11:41 PM >
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Posted by doug720
1) H2S gas - If you smell something like rotten eggs, you have seconds to exit. The saying is, "First whiff warns you, second whiff you're dead!"

Crazy. Could you elaborate on what causes this?

Short of SCBA, how would you protect yourself against this? I assume a detector will either be going off (you're dead) or not. Can you still smell H2S in high concentrations?



droopyeye location:
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Re: Refinery - LA
<Reply # 6 on 4/18/2015 5:25 AM >
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H2S is a heavy gas, highly toxic and flammable. There are filters for it, but you also have to have an adequate amount of O2 in the air to keep you alive. If you think H2S is present, just leave or stay and die.



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Re: Refinery - LA
<Reply # 7 on 4/22/2015 3:28 PM >
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H2S info from SafetyDirectory.com


H2S Safety Factsheet
August 2004

Hydrogen sulfide (H2S, CAS# 7783-06-4) is an extremely hazardous, toxic compound. It is a colourless, flammable gas that can be identified in relatively low concentrations, by a characteristic rotten egg odor. The gas occurs naturally in coal pits, sulfur springs, gas wells, and as a product of decaying sulfur-containing organic matter, particularly under low oxygen conditions. It is therefore commonly encountered in places such as sewers, sewage treatment plants (H2S is often called sewer gas), manure stockpiles, mines, hot springs, and the holds of fishing ships. Industrial sources of hydrogen sulfide include petroleum and natural gas extraction and refining, pulp and paper manufacturing, rayon textile production, leather tanning, chemical manufacturing and waste disposal.

Hydrogen sulfide has a very low odor threshold, with its smell being easily perceptible at concentrations well below 1 part per million (ppm) in air. The odor increases as the gas becomes more concentrated, with the strong rotten egg smell recognisable up to 30 ppm. Above this level, the gas is reported to have a sickeningly sweet odor up to around 100 ppm. However, at concentrations above 100 ppm, a person's ability to detect the gas is affected by rapid temporary paralysis of the olfactory nerves in the nose, leading to a loss of the sense of smell. This means that the gas can be present at dangerously high concentrations, with no perceivable odor. Prolonged exposure to lower concentrations can also result in similar effects of olfactory fatigue. This unusual property of hydrogen sulfide makes it extremely dangerous to rely totally on the sense of smell to warn of the presence of the gas.

Health Effects of Hydrogen Sulfide

H2S is classed as a chemical asphyxiant, similar to carbon monoxide and cyanide gases. It inhibits cellular respiration and uptake of oxygen, causing biochemical suffocation. Typical exposure symptoms include:

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0 - 10 ppm Irritation of the eyes, nose and throat
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10 - 50 ppm Headache
Dizziness
Nausea and vomiting
Coughing and breathing difficulty

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H 50 - 200 ppm Severe respratory tract irritation

Eye irritation / acute conjunctivitis
Shock
Convulsions
Coma
Death in severe cases

Prolonged exposures at lower levels can lead to bronchitis, pneumonia, migraine headaches, pulmonary edema, and loss of motor coordination.

Working with Hydrogen Sulfide

Most countries have legal limits in force that govern the maximum allowable levels of exposure to hydrogen sulfide in the working environment. A typical permissible exposure limit in many countries is 10 ppm. While the distinctive odor of H2S is easily detected, its olfactory fatigue effects mean that one cannot rely on the nose as a warning device. The only reliable way to determine exposure levels is to measure the amount in the air. Regular monitoring will help to identify areas and operations likely to exceed permissible exposure limits, and any areas that routinely pose overexposure hazards should be equipped with continuous monitoring systems.

With a vapor density of 1.19, hydrogen sulfide is approximately 20 percent heavier than air, so this invisible gas will collect in depressions in the ground and in confined spaces. The use of direct reading gas detection instrumentation should be required before entering confined spaces such as manholes, tanks, pits, and reaction vessels that could contain an accumulation of H2S gas.

Wherever possible, exposure should be minimised by employing adequate engineering controls and safe working practices. Such methods include ensuring good ventilation and changing work procedures and practices. Where engineering controls cannot adequately control levels of exposure, it may be necessary to supplement them with the use of suitable personal protective equipment (PPE) such as supplied-air respirators. A qualified industrial hygienist or safety professional should be consulted for guidance on the suitability and correct use of respirators.

Should a co-worker ever be overcome by H2S gas, do not attempt a rescue until you are properly protected yourself. The rescuer can very easily get caught out by venturing into a confined space without adequate protection. Remember that at levels above 200 ppm, collapse, coma and death due to respiratory failure can occur within seconds after only a few inhalations so you can be overcome yourself very quickly. Such incidents are sadly all too common and only serve to make the rescue effort twice as difficult.



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