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To be properly convicted in Texas, the offender must be discovered in an out of bounds area that has been conspicuously marked as private property and no trespassing is allowed.
The person who discovers the trespass must have competent authority to declare the person a trespasser.
Law enforcement does not qualify as a competent authority unless the individual officer has authority from the actual owner of record.
(The Baker is a known type of exception to this as the local PD has a written afadavit from the owners on file that states no one is allowed without a notarized permit.)
Photographic evidence of trespass can be used in court to convict a trespassing charge, but that evidence must come from a reliable source and contain enough information to adequately identify the location with no shadow of doubt.
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Posted by AtticAddict
Isn't there some unwritten UE code against tweeting during an explore?
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if theres not, there should be
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Posted by Elvolf
Damnnnn I really wanted explore this sometime down the road.
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You PROBABLY still can...
I do not know how tight security has gotten there, but, you could always do what I've done in the past and make The Baker a camp-IN. Go in there when it's nighttime (like 3 a.m.), have a blanket, and sleep there a la hobo. Take pictures in the morning, secretly place the SD card in a wrapped napkin (plastic soda bottle cap containing the memory card and gum holding it intact, etc., be creative), toss it out into the street, then discreetly leave when it's "safe" to do so.
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Posted by Astro
Honestly, I think somewhere (I am currently too lazy to hunt this down for authenticity)it says that one cannot actually be prosecuted for trespassing if they were never actually caught there. The photos could always claim "These were photoshopped" or something of the like, calling them photos manipulation. I've always known the law here to be that if a cop catches you coming out of a building, they can't do anything at that point because they caught you outside of it. I am sure this can be bent in all sorts of ways, but I always understood the trespassing laws in Texas to be that they can't successfully convict you of a crime without any sort of witness to it.
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Tell that to all the guys who got in trouble for their pictures they took of places, but were never caught in person.
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I was actually in the Baker a few months ago, and we "walked through an open door." What we didn't realize, was that the people we thought were renovation workers (that's what they told us when i asked them what they were doing during the day) hadn't actually ALL left (we saw them driving away) and we walked up to a desk with a computer on it, and video feed of us standing at the desk  also a phone that was... ringing? long story short we got trapped before we could get out and ended up hiding from them inside a wall. Turns out they were sanctioned ghost hunters and they had a thermometer reading on the wall we were inside. They kept coming over and saying "the temp just jumped way high on this wall!!!!" and daring each other to go inside the hole in the wall where we hid holding our breath. Thank God they all were too scared to go in. We probably waited a good 4 hours in that cramped wall space....
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Posted by adventuretimexplorermime
Turns out they were sanctioned ghost hunters They kept coming over and saying "the temp just jumped way high on this wall!!!!" and daring each other to go inside the hole in the wall where we hid holding our breath. Thank God they all were too scared to go in. We probably waited a good 4 hours in that cramped wall space....
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That's pretty funny.
I know I certainly wouldn't "tweet" or post anything of face book. Only here on UER and then, only after I was in and out, not before. (unless going with other UE explorers I know)
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Posted by SilentSearch
That's pretty funny.
I know I certainly wouldn't "tweet" or post anything of face book. Only here on UER and then, only after I was in and out, not before. (unless going with other UE explorers I know)
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tweeter schmeeter, SS and I prefer to use Mattel brand GI Joe walkie talkies when we explore but what I want to know is what is a "sanctioned ghost hunter" anyway is that like drag racing where NHRA or AMA sanctions your event ?
Can we assume that when they took the temperature of said wall, that their thermometer was calibrated to within 0.?% of some ghost buster industry standards ?
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Posted by 2Xplorations
tweeter schmeeter, SS and I prefer to use Mattel brand GI Joe walkie talkies when we explore but what I want to know is what is a "sanctioned ghost hunter" anyway is that like drag racing where NHRA or AMA sanctions your event ?
Can we assume that when they took the temperature of said wall, that their thermometer was calibrated to within 0.?% of some ghost buster industry standards ?
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WHOA WHOA WHOA, Slow down, 2x. We don't need to be knocking NHRA, here. Stop hating. Ghost hunters and NHRA have nothing in common. NHRA is pure, raw, NOS, burned rubber, panty-wetting fun. Ghost hunting is nothing of the sort. I feel even talking about them at the same time is an insult to the National Hot Rod Association.
Don't cross the Streams.
[02:33:56] <Valkyre> Astro your whole life is ruled by the sentence ' life is better without clothes on'
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Posted by Astro
WHOA WHOA WHOA, Slow down, 2x. We don't need to be knocking NHRA, here. Stop hating. Ghost hunters and NHRA have nothing in common. NHRA is pure, raw, NOS, burned rubber, panty-wetting fun. Ghost hunting is nothing of the sort. I feel even talking about them at the same time is an insult to the National Hot Rod Association.
Don't cross the Streams.
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ummmmm panty wetttttting...
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Fkn "A"
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Call me lazy but I got up enough interest to Google this shit, standby, wait for it, wait for it,
https://www.facebo...akerHotelGhostWalk
So maybe some of you paranormalistas knew about this but I am really truly surprised and disappointed, at least as far as I am capable of being surprised and disappointed these days.
Do the ghost walk dudududu do do...
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Posted by 2Xplorations
Call me lazy but I got up enough interest to Google this shit, standby, wait for it, wait for it,
https://www.facebo...akerHotelGhostWalk
So maybe some of you paranormalistas knew about this but I am really truly surprised and disappointed, at least as far as I am capable of being surprised and disappointed these days.
Do the ghost walk dudududu do do...
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They don't actually go inside. I was there during one of their "ghost walks." All they do is walk around the grounds and tell scary stories and history on it.... from what I understand they used to do inside tours, but the last one was in 2008 I think.
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Posted by adventuretimexplorermime
I was actually in the Baker a few months ago, and we "walked through an open door." What we didn't realize, was that the people we thought were renovation workers (that's what they told us when i asked them what they were doing during the day) hadn't actually ALL left (we saw them driving away) and we walked up to a desk with a computer on it, and video feed of us standing at the desk also a phone that was... ringing? long story short we got trapped before we could get out and ended up hiding from them inside a wall. Turns out they were sanctioned ghost hunters and they had a thermometer reading on the wall we were inside. They kept coming over and saying "the temp just jumped way high on this wall!!!!" and daring each other to go inside the hole in the wall where we hid holding our breath. Thank God they all were too scared to go in. We probably waited a good 4 hours in that cramped wall space....
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That's a fantastic story. I'm curious as to what a "sanctioned ghost hunter" is as well.
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Posted by Minstrudeler
I'm curious as to what a "sanctioned ghost hunter" is as well.
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It probably means they have their own ghost hunters forums ha-Ha.
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Sanctioned meaning they had official permission from the city or whatever to be there
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