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Since KublaKhan hasn't shared it here yet, I'm doing it.
http://uk.prweb.co.../prweb11201273.htm
Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
Biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'Covert Messiah' Conference at Conway Hall in London on the 19th of October to present this controversial discovery to the British public.
Jesus Christ may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources.
London (PRWEB UK) 8 October 2013
American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ. His presentation will be part of a one-day symposium entitled "Covert Messiah" at Conway Hall in Holborn (full details can be found at http://www.covertmessiah.com).
Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
Atwill asserts that Christianity did not really begin as a religion, but a sophisticated government project, a kind of propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire. "Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century," he explains. "When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."
Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."
Atwill's most intriguing discovery came to him while he was studying "Wars of the Jews" by Josephus [the only surviving first-person historical account of first-century Judea] alongside the New Testament. "I started to notice a sequence of parallels between the two texts," he recounts. "Although it's been recognised by Christian scholars for centuries that the prophesies of Jesus appear to be fulfilled by what Josephus wrote about in the First Jewish-Roman war, I was seeing dozens more. What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus. This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern. The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar."
How could this go unnoticed in the most scrutinised books of all time? "Many of the parallels are conceptual or poetic, so they aren't all immediately obvious. After all, the authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it. An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognised the literary game being played." Atwill maintains he can demonstrate that "the Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is 'We invented Jesus Christ, and we're proud of it.'"
Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."
Atwill encourages skeptics to challenge him at Conway Hall, where after the presentations there is likely to be a lively Q&A session. Joining Mr.Atwill will be fellow scholar Kenneth Humphreys, author of the book "Jesus Never Existed."
Further information can be found at http://www.covertmessiah.com
About Joseph Atwill: Joseph Atwill is the author of the best-selling book "Caesar's Messiah" and its upcoming sequel "The Single Strand."
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But what about Tacitus?
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SAT. 19TH OCTOBER 2013 AT CONWAY HALL, 25 RED LION SQUARE, LONDON, BEEYOTCH.
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"I don't want this to directly affect Christians, but their religious icon is pretty much fake and plagiarized."
Yeah...I think that's going to cause a bit of an uproar, unfortunately.
Oh good, my slow clap processor made it into this thing.
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Posted by Harvestman
"I don't want this to directly affect Christians, but their religious icon is pretty much fake and plagiarized."
Yeah...I think that's going to cause a bit of an uproar, unfortunately.
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I disagree. No matter what anyone, anywhere ever finds, believers will never give up.
But more to the point, I read the whole article, as well as a couple others, and it seems like it's just his interpretation of what the Bible says, rather than a conclusion drawn on facts and evidence. It seems odd that the Romans would succeed in creating a fake religion, when they failed at converting the Jews to their own.
“We are not going to have the kind of cooperation we need if everyone insists on their own narrow version of reality. … the great divide in the world today … is between people who have the courage to listen and those who are convinced that they already know it all.”
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I read the article and kept waiting for the part where he found an actual confession that said "we invented Jesus Christ" like the title said.
I'm also wondering why the Romans would invent a religion and then persecute its practitioners for a few hundred years before making it official. Apparently they were playing a really, really long con.
[last edit 10/16/2013 2:41 AM by Roland - edited 1 times]
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They forgot.
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mandias you must be bored.
this sounds like the equivalent of historical fiction and I do not see any references to reliable primary sources or weighing of evidences and records. Nice that this guy was uniquely able to recognize such a conclusive pattern, seeing important designs nobody else could. He must be very special and really smart.
I want to go on the record as having invented mandias. Hopefully in the future some author will discover my words and let society know mandias never existed, and that I patterned him after other people from the internet. Of course that author will seem to have more proof than the one above, since words claiming someone invented mandias now actually exist somewhere. Hopefully he won't evaluate my reliability as a primary source and the fiction of mandias will be exposed as the lie it is.
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The joke's on you. I was invented by the Romans.
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Posted by MutantMandias
The joke's on you. I was invented by the Romans.
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Et tu, Mande?
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wouldn't that be something? the reality of god being bullshit realized? oh the hilarity.
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Posted by Samurai
wouldn't that be something? the reality of god being bullshit realized? oh the hilarity.
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But Sam....it is bullshit. You know that.
Hell, their own Invisible Friend Club handbook made that pretty easy to prove.
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