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NoSuchPerson Stop, or I'll ask you again!
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| | | Re: Toronto Codeplug? < Reply # 7 on 11/23/2009 1:39 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Oy. Here's the deal. Industry Canada requires *all* radio devices to be licensed. This applies to receivers and transmitters. There are NO exceptions except the following: -License Exempt radios (kiddie walkie-talkies, FRS, CB and that sort of thing) -ISM band devices. These are devices which operate in ISM bands, and are license exempt. Examples include cordless phones, WiFi devices, garage door openers, key less entry car lock FOBs, Bluetooth, even your microwave oven. Generally speaking, any device that isn't a radio in the traditional sense, but still uses radio frequencies to communicate. -Analogue scanning receivers "scanners". That is it. Every other radio device requires a license from Industry Canada in order to legally own/operate/posess. So what's included in the "must license" category? Well, some common devices: -Digital scanning receivers "digital scanners" -Commercial radios operating as a receiver only - such as an HT1000 setup for RX only on railroad, or an MTX8000 setup for RX only on a trunking system. So, the argument that "my MTX8000 is programmed to not transmit or affiliate" doesn't hold any water. True, it won't ever TX (except under three circumstances that you cannot prevent). However that really isn't the issue. The issue is that the radio isn't exempt from licensing. This includes only receiving. Not that long ago, out in BC...Industry Canada and the RCMP were checking tow trucks and others on roadside spot checks (likely it was part of a truck inspection like we have all the time on the 400 during long weekends). Guess what? They issued countless violation notices and seized numerous radios which were programmed for RX only. Nothing like this has happened around here, but it doesn't mean it can't. We are lucky. The use of commercial radios is very wide-spread in the GTA. All the police services know this and more or less turn a blind eye to it because people behave themselves. That, and the fact that in a few years everyone will be encrypted anyway, so they probably figure "let them have their fun...their days are numbered". Of course, I'm talking theoretical. Would the Police or IC nail you? Not likely unless you were doing something dumb like transmitting or evading arrest/capture while breaking another law.
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| | | Re: Toronto Codeplug? < Reply # 11 on 12/16/2009 9:42 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by el nerdo I've never read this regulation, mikey, care to share an appropriate IC link?
| Prohibitions 4. (1) No person shall, except under and in accordance with a radio authorization, install, operate or possess radio apparatus, other than (a) radio apparatus exempted by or under regulations made under paragraph 6(1)(m); or (b) radio apparatus that is capable only of the reception of broadcasting and that is not a distribution | So says the IC Inspector here in Toronto...this means that you cannot install, operate or posses radios that you aren't licensed on. He said that every frequency programmed into a radio must be licensed, even if it's just RX. Unless the frequency is license exempt (IE, programming weather radio for RX). As an example back in the day... CityTV had a RX only license on all the Toronto Fire frequencies back when they were UHF conventional. This was somehow allowed by IC..but it made it legit for them to use their MCX1000 mobiles for RX only on it. That paragraph above is pretty wide ranging... but here's another link that might be interesting: http://www.ic.gc.c...-Spring_2007_e.pdf In particular, this part is curious: Is it legal to have an RCMP Rx frequency programmed into a transceiver? It’s illegal to have a land mobile frequency programmed into a transceiver unless the radio is licensed for that frequency. Licensing is required for both transmit and receive frequencies. In order to be licensed for an RCMP frequency you would need a letter of permission from the RCMP. Any radio approved under RSS-119 needs to be licensed for both transmit and receive frequencies. If not, it's an offence under section 4(1). of the Radiocommunication Act. Analogue scanners are type-approved under RSS-215 and are therefore licence-exempt. | For note, the RCMP out there are VHF analog conventional.
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