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UER Forum > Archived UE Photo Critiques > HDR vs HDR (Viewed 2376 times)
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HDR vs HDR
< on 12/1/2011 8:43 PM >
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Love it or hate it, you can say that HDR is a technique that was almost born just for UE. I have 2 shots of the same scene posted below, each processed from 3 bracketed exposures (0, -2, +2). One is over-saturated and bright, the other is more contrast-y and darker. What I'm curious about is which style of processing do you prefer for UE photography? And feel free to critique the content of the shot as well, and tell me what you would do differently.


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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 1 on 12/1/2011 8:47 PM >
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To each their own. I like the right one better. I feel there's no need to over-saturate too much unless it's to call attention to something specific or if it's for a certain reason.

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 2 on 12/1/2011 8:55 PM >
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I like the one on the right significantly more. Though both have redeeming qualities.
I would boost the saturation in the one on the right just a bit. Also, it looks like you made heavy use of the Detail Contrast. Personally, I would recommend a little less of that while tone-mapping in exchange for an sharpening filter later in your workflow. Try to avoid the obvious "Painterly" preset effect.

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 3 on 12/1/2011 8:57 PM >
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Posted by OwlsFlight
To each their own. I like the right one better. I feel there's no need to over-saturate too much unless it's to call attention to something specific or if it's for a certain reason.


I agree. The right one you can actually see more detail with less saturation.


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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 4 on 12/1/2011 8:59 PM >
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I'd bracket the shot then manually blend just the blown out window into the shot exposed for the majority of the scene. Having a tablet helps with more complicated shapes, but I don't always use it.

HDR gives images a weird texture and causes edges to seem soft and weird, it's also often used to completely kill extreme highlights and shadows and creates a monotone image of midtones.

I've never seen anything achieved in HDR, even the good subtle ones, that a manual bracket and blend couldn't do better and make look more natural.

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 5 on 12/1/2011 11:43 PM >
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I like to use the CS5 merge to HDR it doesn't leave the 'chrome' effect like photomatix,





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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 6 on 12/2/2011 12:21 AM >
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super noisy....but ill take the one on the right as well.

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 7 on 12/2/2011 3:00 AM >
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Yes, definitely Photomatix was in use here. The first image was done with the Medium light blending, then boosted and fine-tuned in Lightroom (I mostly boosted Vibrance +30 and Saturation +12). The second started with the Painterly preset, with the detail contrast cranked to 100 (I was trying to get the tiles and ceiling chunks to look more "crackly". (I also had to boost the gamma and luminance to counteract the darkening by the detail contrast.) I like the suggestion of handling sharpening after the tone-mapping, as opposed to the detail contrast--I may try that in Lightroom along with some noise reduction. I'm surprised about the amount of noise, as I set Photomatix to do NR on all frames prior to merge, and I don't think my original exposures were any longer than a second or two. Thanks for the feedback--keep it coming if you've got anything else.

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 8 on 12/2/2011 3:12 AM >
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Posted by Dgrau
I'm surprised about the amount of noise, as I set Photomatix to do NR on all frames prior to merge, and I don't think my original exposures were any longer than a second or two.


This is a side effect of tone mapping.
Some tips here:
http://www.hdrsoft...tomatix.html#noise

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 9 on 12/2/2011 5:15 AM >
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These are both HDR. One is tonemapped, one is not... It really depends on the result you're trying to achieve...





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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 10 on 12/2/2011 5:27 AM >
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I agree with your love it or hate it approach but the fact of the matter is, HDR doesn't turn a boring picture into a good one. If the picture doesn't catch your eye before you HDR it, it won't be any better after. The only picture on here that looks like it would stand on its own would be swizzlers.
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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 11 on 12/2/2011 5:38 AM >
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The one on the right looks less like clown puke.


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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 12 on 12/2/2011 6:30 AM >
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I've never seen anything achieved in HDR, even the good subtle ones, that a manual bracket and blend couldn't do better and make look more natural.


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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 13 on 12/2/2011 12:10 PM >
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HDR is for pussies and I think it actually hurts most photos because it takes so long to figure out where to look-- all the plastic just starts to melt into itself!

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 14 on 12/2/2011 12:12 PM >
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Real men zone their shit out

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 15 on 12/2/2011 2:59 PM >
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Posted by Xanderrrrrr
HDR is for pussies and I think it actually hurts most photos because it takes so long to figure out where to look-- all the plastic just starts to melt into itself!


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What the fuck are you talking about?
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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 16 on 12/2/2011 3:09 PM >
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Posted by swizzler

What the fuck are you talking about?


im assuming he means ansel adams' zone system? maybe?

edit: actually that first comment, i think hes saying that in hdr, everything is the same tones, and sort of all crying for attention at once, there is no lines or reference points or anything to lead your eye around, AND sometimes overdone hdr takes on a plasticky look.

amirite?
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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 17 on 12/2/2011 4:23 PM >
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Posted by tullo
amirite?


Sounds about right...

Here's an HDR I processed for shits and giggles to show how they're *supposed* to look. I think it's ignorant to say HDR is for pussies.

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 18 on 12/2/2011 5:04 PM >
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Fuck HDR.

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Re: HDR vs HDR
<Reply # 19 on 12/2/2011 5:16 PM >
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I only use HDR processing when I'm too busy fucking bitches to do a proper blend job.

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