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UEMag
< on 9/2/2011 5:32 AM >
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A fellow explorer and friend of mine just launched his new website, uemag.com, a magazine and social networking site. Think facebook and flickr had a baby who was really really into UE. He's based out of Maine, and so the newly launched site reflects that, but he's hopeful to expand all around the US, Canada, and the world.

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 1 on 9/12/2011 7:31 PM >
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Noticed that site.

Could be nice, but $25 for a newly made website?
Making fast money imho..

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 2 on 9/12/2011 8:55 PM >
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Posted by Bartje
Noticed that site.

Could be nice, but $25 for a newly made website?
Making fast money imho..


True. Doesn't sound right to me...

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 3 on 9/13/2011 11:28 AM >
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Ok, normally i don't like doing things like this, but when i feel there is something not straight i need to warn you all.
Despite you like me or not...
Despite you had issues with me or not...
This is just a general warning for our little world.

A week ago i registered for this new website that popped up out of the blue and is desperately seeking members.

I received a request to join the ' first 25 members' Pro Membership.
So i added the request to my account, but i needed to pay 25$ to become pro member.

But i had no intention on paying when you receive a request right?
Follow this conversation between me and the admin GREV (Nicolas)

Hey NeQo!
I see that you sent a request to join the First 25 Pro members group. You need to be registered as a pro member to be a part of the group. Just click the GO PRO button and purchase a pro plan.

Cheers!
Sunday, 11 September 2011 17:29 GERV

NeQo
Hi GREV,

Sorry, but i misunderstood the request.
I have no intention in paying 25 dollar for a new website with little to none information.
With 25 dollar i pay the bill for my website for a whole year! All included.

It just smells like a way for you to gain some quick extra bucks.
Maybe it's a good idea, but not under these conditions.
Sorry man.

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NeQo
Monday, 12 September 2011 12:13 NeQo

GERV
Hi NeQo!

Sorry you feel that way. Let me set a few thing strait here.

Yes $25 will host a simple website, with little bandwith and no members and not 100,000,000 photos at 8MB and Videos. I have payed out of my own pocket $1000.00 to make this site. I sold 2 lenses. I have not made one dime off this. I made this site to print other people photos. So that the photos can come to life and not just live on the internet. I have invested one month 12 to 18 hours days to make this site all by myself. If it to much to ask for some help in paying my $1000.00 Semi Dedicated server chargs so everyone can get a chance to be printed, well then get off my site.


After that he contacted me on the instant chat function of his site.
Angry little fellow...

Nicholas: i have sent you a message
Nicholas: please read
Me: itchy?
Nicholas: sorry for being so blunt
Nicholas: but I work very hard
Nicholas: to make this for you
Nicholas: and everyone
Me: tell me 1 thing, how could i know?
Nicholas: I have not made any
Nicholas: money
Nicholas: we if you read about the site
Nicholas: and if you read my welcome mat post
Nicholas: I think you may get a better picture of me
Nicholas: and what I am trying to do here
Me: yeah, but anyone can write that
Me: i'm just a little squeptical
Nicholas: thats fine
Nicholas: what do you want to know?
Me: maybe you should invested in a new lens smile
Nicholas: I sold 2 lenses to make this happen
Nicholas: I am disabled
Nicholas: with no job
Nicholas: and no income
Me: sorry to heqar that
Nicholas: I was assaulted
Me: hear
Nicholas: in 2008
Nicholas: and now suffer from post concussion syndrome
Me: hmmm
Nicholas: I got some money form victom comp
Nicholas: to pay hospital bills and I took that money to put it for this site
Me: sorry man, but you are no explorer
Nicholas: f*** off!
Me: you just want money
Nicholas: no I dont
Nicholas: I have lost money on this
Nicholas: I did this out off the love of explorring
Me: Nobody told you to do so, and now you are acting like this towards me????
Nicholas: my sever spave along cost $100,00
Nicholas: f*** you get off my site
Me: i'll spread the word
Nicholas: I am deleting you f***ing dum ass
Me: smile
Nicholas: thalskkofijoergp0
Me: bye m8
Nicholas: I would like to talk to you on the phone
Me: hahaha
Me: now f*ck off yourself
Nicholas: we need a better way to connect here
Nicholas: call me
Me: bye
Nicholas: your loss
Me: i don't think so, i'm not the one who invested 1000 dollar smile
Nicholas: if you want to understand me more call 1-207-710-xxxx
Nicholas: call lets talk
Me: no i'm not interrested anymore
Nicholas: sorry
Me: i'm f*cking you now
Nicholas: ok tuff guy
Nicholas: didnt know exploring was about f***ing people
Me: where do i delete my account?
Nicholas: its done
Nicholas: just log off


Now we know why he's seeking a lot of members right?
By gaining money on our work and pictures...

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 4 on 9/13/2011 4:05 PM >
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Posted by NeQo
STUFF...


L O L

for those that TLDR here's the short version...

"I wasted my time now pay me"
"You offer nothing"
"PAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY MEEEEEEEEE"
"No"

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 5 on 9/13/2011 4:25 PM >
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I've yet to be able to actually visit the site. All I've seen so far are maintenance screens or a server error.

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 6 on 9/13/2011 5:12 PM >
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Posted by AdventureDog


L O L

for those that TLDR here's the short version...

"I wasted my time now pay me"
"You offer nothing"
"PAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY MEEEEEEEEE"
"No"


Hehe, nice synopsys



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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 7 on 9/13/2011 5:14 PM >
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hahahaha. that KILLS dude - thanks so much for posting it. seriously made me laugh. what a donkey. i kind of like the idea of a UEMAG but this UE-BAG is a total idiot. when i saw the 25 dollar fee i immediately thought something just wasnt right about it...again - thanks for posting this for all to see. well done!

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 8 on 9/13/2011 5:18 PM >
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Posted by insulinguy
hahahaha. that KILLS dude - thanks so much for posting it. seriously made me laugh. what a donkey. i kind of like the idea of a UEMAG but this UE-BAG is a total idiot. when i saw the 25 dollar fee i immediately thought something just wasnt right about it...again - thanks for posting this for all to see. well done!


I'm making this judgement without actually seeing the site since it always seems to be down, but I wouldn't be against the $25 fee for a good UE social network. This just doesn't seem to be the one.

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 9 on 9/13/2011 7:38 PM >
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Posted by Brind
I wouldn't be against the $25 fee for a good UE social network. This just doesn't seem to be the one.


We already have a good UE social network and you're using it right now.

And if this site isn't enough, members from UER are already friended with one another on Facebook, Twitter and Flickr. Members already chat with one another on UEChat. It's rather redundant to have the same people added on multiple sites but that's only my opinion.

So the question becomes do we need another social networking site to talk to the same people we already talk with on UER and (insert your favourite social network site here)?

For some constructive criticism:

I think Nick is on the right path by wanting to create a community based magazine and I like the idea of a printed magazine as well. The matter of cost associated with a print magazine and postage would need to be addressed. An online magazine idea has been thrown around over the years and would be nice to see the light of day.

The website sounds as if a lot of work has gone into it as well as development costs, but in hindsight members should have been polled first to see if interest was there to pay for such a site.

It's not too late to scale things back and focus on a magazine alone, rather than a full blown social website. As we saw with abandonedcanada.com, members are not very willing to leave UER for another similar startup.

UER has the target market so to speak on exploring.


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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 10 on 9/13/2011 11:34 PM >
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http://www.google....f&biw=1228&bih=887

A fair bit of the site was cached by Google before being taken down.

Question for people who've signed up, did you know your profile and at least some of your posts were publicly viewable?
[last edit 9/13/2011 11:35 PM by Loki - edited 1 times]

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 11 on 9/17/2011 9:13 PM >
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Hello

I am NICK and I would like to make a statement on this post. First off the chat that was posted here was editied. That is what I typed, but Neqo's replys where edited a bit. I have the origanl chat saved. If you notice the chat does not read right. His reply's were removed and edited. To prove this look at my phone number I posted in our chat. The last numbers are XXX as in, been edited out. Unlike Neqo I will not sink to his low stature and post private chats for everyone to see after I edit them.

Second this was taking way off corse. neqo was not taking the time to even uderstand what I was trying to type to him and I lost my patients. I was insulted when I tried to explane a bit of personal infomation about myself, as so to help him better understand me and get to know each other. Neqo was quick to slam me down and make up his own words and mind about what I was trying to get across to him.


I can understand where your coming form about the membership fee. I have lowered the fee to $14.99. You can join as a free member as well.

Why isn't this site 100% free?
A lot of time goes into maintaining and updating this site. The under-staffed UE Mag team (2 people) work around the clock for everyone to enjoy the site and to keep this alive. I hope you can see a lot has gone into making the site and its not as simple as a forum driven site. Server space costs money; the more photos and videos that are uploaded, the more server space is requiered to keep the site running smoothly. UE Mag is currently on a Semi Dedicated Secure server and that's not cheap. Also the logistics of the task of publishing our printed magazine takes up lots of raw materials...effort, attention, care, etc. We hope that everyone can understand that the Pro Memberships are here to keep this whole ship afloat. $14.99 year membership is cheap, thats $1.80 a month. real cheap if you think about it.

Lots of people like the idea of a urbex magazine, but they don't want to pay money for it. Or they think the mag will be to mainstream. UE Mag is made up by our members. The members submit the photos and the articles. This way the mag stays true to documenting what is going on in the world of urbex. Making a magazine cost money and theres no way around that. To make the mag and site have any quality cost money. If there was a way around it, to make it free trust me I would.

As far as me trying to make a quick buck, lol I wish it were true. I have spent over $1000.00 on this magazne and website and I have not made one dime of it back. The reason I set up pro membership is to help me pay for the server space. A Semi dedicated server cost me around $1500.00 a year, So I thought it would be fare to ask for help with paying that bill. I made the site for everyone to enjoy and I work hard to get everyones photos printed. I love the internet, but seeing everyones photos in print is so much better.

The site is set up with a lot of privacy setting. You can lock everything out so only friends can see it. unlike forums where anyone can come in and see your post and trace your IP address. Thats one of the main reasons I thought the site would be useful for explores. It's more secure.

So you as a member can lock up your profle or leave it open. Just like facebook. Also did you know I found this site on google. And I can get your IP address for any member on this site.

Its important to understand where I am coming from and why I am making this magazine in the first place. I am not trying to cash in on this. If so I am doing a shitty job at getting a quick buck lol. I love exploring and I love photography and I think its about time for erveryones images to come to life and stop just living on the internet as a jpg file. ue mag is just a urbex community that prints what its members put up on the site.

Also, If you have a flickr account you payed around $25 for it and flickr don't print your images in a magazine.

If you have any question feel free to ask me here or PM me. I understand that not everyone is going to like this magazine, but at least give it a chance. check out the first issue when its printed.

Because we live in the information age and we have search engines like Google and Yahoo, Anything posted online is free information. You can type in any words Urbex related and thousands of websites will pop up about exploring. Also youtube and Facebook. Some sites are for members only (so non members cant see the site) But all you need to do is register and that takes about one minute to fill out the registration form and your in. So if your conserned about the cat getting out of the bag, well I think we are way past that point now. The only way to keep exploring from any publicity is to not post on the internet at all.

Just some food for thought.

Besides, explorers need something to read when they are using the bathroom!

If you want to jugde me base on Neqo's edited chat I had with him, A guy who had made up his mind about uemag before even talking to me. Then go ahead. If you want to know who I am for real, ask me anything.

I am a self taught Photographer and artist. I started shooting around April of 2010 after being struck with a traumatic head injury and suffering from Post-concussion Syndrome. I have been battling tension headaches, fatigue and visual difficulties among other issues on a daily bases for over two years now.

Photography has been there for me in my times of pain and suffering. I guess you could say that art in general has been my motivation for a full recovery. Healing through creative processing and expression.

In this time of recovery I found exploring and I haven't stopped since. UE Mag is a magazine by explorers for exploers, I just put the mag together. So really who I am is not importent.

Neqo why don't you try acting your age and stop spreading distorted infomations about other explores and exploring communities. Grow up. It's people like you that hurt this movement.

Nick-
[last edit 9/18/2011 2:13 AM by Gerv - edited 11 times]

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 12 on 9/17/2011 9:50 PM >
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I like the look of the site, a helluva lot of work has gone into this.

A question though, did you ever consider launching it on a shared hosting plan first before diving into such an expensive hosting plan? When someone opens a business in a shopping mall, they first study the demographics to see if there is a target market to keep them in business. Investing without looking at your market is crazy.

In other words, before spending time and effort on a site designed for explorers perhaps polling the members of UER would have given you a better idea of whether you'd see your money back or not.


One other thing, you said, "Also did you know I found this site on google. And I can get your IP address for any member on this site."

It sounds as if you're saying you found UER on google and can get any UER member's IP address which I would be willing to wager is not accurate.


In any event, I wish you luck. The site looks very good and has potential... so many cool features and all coded in PHP too.


** EDIT **

Some suggestions...

1) You have to enter your email twice, once when you create an account and again when you fill in the mandatory info about yourself (where you can describe your contact info, camera gear, etc.)

2) Change the "State" to "State/Province" for us Canadians.

[last edit 9/17/2011 10:10 PM by Intrinsic - edited 2 times]

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 13 on 9/17/2011 10:00 PM >
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What happens when there aren't enough paid memberships to keep your site afloat?

We see a lot of UE sites come and go, and one always wonders how long it'll be before the site owner gets bored and lets the thing go, leaving the few people who'd invested time and energy annoyed and disappointed. Being reliant on paid-up members seems to add another level of difficulty in making something sustainable.

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 14 on 9/17/2011 10:04 PM >
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Thanks for you positve outlook about uemag.com man. I didn't mean UER I was talking about forum communities as a whole. I have a lot of respect for UER and all the other urbex communities out there. If It wasn't for them I most likely would not be exploring. So yeah that was a bit of a exageration. Sorry about that.

I did some research and I thought the site was going to grow faster than what it is. I may downgrade to a shared server soon. I took a big gamble making uemag.com I have put a lot of care, time and money into it, with the hopes of making something that would give back to other fellow explorers.

Thanks for your kind words Intrinsic !
[last edit 9/17/2011 10:14 PM by Gerv - edited 1 times]

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 15 on 9/17/2011 10:11 PM >
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Posted by metawaffle
What happens when there aren't enough paid memberships to keep your site afloat?

We see a lot of UE sites come and go, and one always wonders how long it'll be before the site owner gets bored and lets the thing go, leaving the few people who'd invested time and energy annoyed and disappointed. Being reliant on paid-up members seems to add another level of difficulty in making something sustainable.


Thats a good point metawaffle and it is very true. Some times you got to take a risk. I've taking a lot of risk / gambles to make this site. But I believe in the idea of a member driven and submitted magazine for explorers. I would sell my camera gear before closing uemag.com up for good.I have sold 2 lenses all ready to foot the bill. The magazine and site will work if explorers support it. And we are getting support.
[last edit 9/17/2011 11:12 PM by Gerv - edited 2 times]

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 16 on 9/17/2011 10:25 PM >
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Space is next to nothing in terms of costs. It's the bandwidth that adds up. Given that your site isn't likely to receive hundreds of thousands of unique visitors each month, I don't really see why you need to be charging anything at this point. If you can't afford basic server fees then you probably shouldn't be running a website to begin with.

You've also created a site using a commercial Joomla template that doesn't seem to have been modified much. I'm guessing all your other features are handled by various plugins written by people who actually have mad coding skills. While I'm sure you've put in a fair amount of time to add graphics and organize things the way you want them, a site like this shouldn't require that much work or money to create or maintain.

Seeing as how you currently have less than 100 registered users (and far fewer active ones), requesting money does seem to be a little premature. Maybe wait until this site is the runaway success you're anticipating it to be before you start asking for cash?

Had this site been built from scratch and if it offered more than "unlimited uploads" then you might get more financial support from people. Saying that you're "under-staffed" (as if any website is ever fully-staffed) and bringing in personal health problems is really not a good way to go about garnering sympathy.

You might also want to try improving your communication/spelling skills. I'm not sure if it's because you're young or because english isn't your first language, but your writing is not going to win people over anytime soon.

For everyone else, the site seems to be free for you to pictures, prattle on about things and do just about whatever you want to. Enjoy it while the site lasts.
[last edit 9/17/2011 10:33 PM by micro - edited 2 times]

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 17 on 9/17/2011 10:48 PM >
Posted on Forum: Infiltration Forums
 
Micro

You can pick me apart if you want. I never stated that I wrote the code to the website. I have put in a lot of work on the site and I thank you for recognizing that.

As far as my communication/spelling skills. I'm not a writer and I suck at spelling lol. Thank god UE Mag's content is made by the members and not me lol.

Even using joomla is not easy, some basic webdesign skills are needed and it takes a lot of time to put it all together.

The site has been open for a little under 3 weeks and 70 members is not bad.

So what you are saying is to make the site free, then once I have a lot of members, slam them with a bill. Thats no way to operate. If I made this site free from the start, would you like it then?

As far as my health issue being posted, I am an open guy and People ask, "who is the guy behind this new site and mag" So I share with anyone, who I am and how I got into exploring. My recovery Has played a mojor roll in why I shoot in the first place. Leaving that out would be not right. As it is my story.

Sorry you feel so negitive about my efforts to make a exploring magazine.

[last edit 9/17/2011 11:20 PM by Gerv - edited 8 times]

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 18 on 9/17/2011 11:37 PM >
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Posted by micro

You might also want to try improving your communication/spelling skills. I'm not sure if it's because you're young or because english isn't your first language, but your writing is not going to win people over anytime soon.




THIS.

if you're attempting to create a MAGAZINE for publication at least use the grammar/spell check feature in word - it works wonders - and based on the posts i have read that you posted it would serve you quite well.

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Re: UEMag
<Reply # 19 on 9/17/2011 11:49 PM >
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Posted by insulinguy


THIS.

if you're attempting to create a MAGAZINE for publication at least use the grammar/spell check feature in word - it works wonders - and based on the posts i have read that you posted it would serve you quite well.


Yes you are correct, I suck at spelling and I am trying to reply fast. But I dont write the magazine. you do.

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