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UER Forum > Canada: Alberta / BC > Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. (Viewed 1360415 times)
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< Reply # 240 on 11/4/2005 11:49 PM >
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< Reply # 241 on 11/6/2005 10:01 PM >
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< Reply # 242 on 11/8/2005 3:42 AM >
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OK, I went back down into the tunnel with the illustrious Natasha and she took some pictures. Some great pictures actually.

I posted them on the UE database. You can see them at http://www.uer.ca/...ow.asp?locid=23705

Enjoy!




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< Reply # 243 on 11/8/2005 5:15 PM >
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OK, I went back down into the tunnel with the illustrious Natasha and she took some pictures. Some great pictures actually.

I posted them on the UE database. You can see them at http://www.uer.ca/...ow.asp?locid=23705

Enjoy!


Nice, Tanuki. Nice Natasha.

Finally...pictures.




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Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
< Reply # 244 on 11/8/2005 5:44 PM >
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Nice, Tanuki. Nice Natasha.

Finally...pictures.


... of a drain...

Nice drain though.




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So are the tunnels actually drains? Nice shots by the way.N.




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I guess you have to be a full member to view the pics
Someone make me a full member!




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< Reply # 247 on 11/10/2005 5:18 PM >
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I guess you have to be a full member to view the pics
Someone make me a full member!


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< Reply # 248 on 11/10/2005 5:24 PM >
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... of a drain...

Nice drain though.


Yes indeed. Drains.

Read Tanuki's report. I trust you have already, because you are diligent, informed, interested. Read it again.

Drains vs. tunnels...is it a terrible stretch to assume that a child's active imagination...or even the active imagination of a junkie/vagrant/whatever...might assume that the drains in question are really tunnels...or that these drains fulfill some tunnel expectation viz. a viz. the rumour?

Antichambers, stairs, etc. all lend themselves to this speculation of an actual network. The details of a child's disappearance, with respect to proximity, addresses, alleged satanism, etc. works well to enhance the story.

You'd agree to that, at least. Wouldn't you, Jester?





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You'd agree to that, at least. Wouldn't you, Jester?




What I agree is, those are drains. Older drains look like that. No mysticism, no magick, just drains. Just because someone mistakes them for secret tunnels, doesn't make it so.

When I was a little kid (7 or 8 years old), travelling across Canada constantly, I saw all the grain silos. I thought they were missile silos, and thought canada was a superpower. Just because I believed it, didn't make it true.

Nice drains though.




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What I agree is, those are drains. Older drains look like that. No mysticism, no magick, just drains. Just because someone mistakes them for secret tunnels, doesn't make it so.

When I was a little kid (7 or 8 years old), travelling across Canada constantly, I saw all the grain silos. I thought they were missile silos, and thought canada was a superpower. Just because I believed it, didn't make it true.

Nice drains though.


Yes yes yes...nice drains.

Those grain silos...MISSILE SILOS, buddy. I'm guessing Raygun was President when you were 7 or 8. We had cruise missiles flapping around over our heads at that time (or did we?). I was there, buddy...I saw it ALL GO DOWN.

Tunnels/drains. If you've never seen a drain and you live in a city that boasts a network of underground tunnels (substantiated or not) these drains are, for all intents and purposes, tunnels.

Remember: this is all speculative fiction.




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Yes yes yes...nice drains.

Those grain silos...MISSILE SILOS, buddy. I'm guessing Raygun was President when you were 7 or 8. We had cruise missiles flapping around over our heads at that time (or did we?). I was there, buddy...I saw it ALL GO DOWN.

Tunnels/drains. If you've never seen a drain and you live in a city that boasts a network of underground tunnels (substantiated or not) these drains are, for all intents and purposes, tunnels.

Remember: this is all speculative fiction.



Explorers actually differentiate between Drains and Tunnels. Drains are what the pictures posted in question were of. Tunnels are different. Similar, but different. You can mistake one for the other, most frequently in old wives tales...

A mistaken belief does not equate fact or truth.




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Explorers actually differentiate between Drains and Tunnels. Drains are what the pictures posted in question were of. Tunnels are different. Similar, but different. You can mistake one for the other, most frequently in old wives tales...

A mistaken belief does not equate fact or truth.


Now Jester...you're being all cuddly and fuzzy and adorable. I want to hug you. As tight as I possibly can without popping your eyes out. I LOVE YOU THAT MUCH.

The people who believe that there are tunnels will go to their graves with that belief. Fine. I'm not one of them (because you've educated me, Jester and I LOVE YOU FOR THAT). Others will agree that tunnels are drains and they'll be comforted in that knowledge.

I'm chasing the former, rather than the latter. Their interest (former) is fascinating. Their stories are compelling.





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What have you done for me lately?


Absolutely nothing.... except follow this thread for the past six months.




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Absolutely nothing.... except follow this thread for the past six months.


I think you deserve some kind of medal for that, way above and beyond the call of duty...




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I think you deserve some kind of medal for that, way above and beyond the call of duty...


Agreed.




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Just to clarify, I'm not saying that the pictures I posted aren't storm drains. They obviously are, the water comes down through grates, and flows into the ocean.

But it is over 2 miles long, about 20 feet below ground level for most of it's length, and 6 to 7 feet high. Other people may have a different definition of the word 'tunnel', but in my mind this definitely qualifies. There are natural tunnels, utility tunnels, subway tunnels, train tunnels, etc., and this one happens to be a storm drain tunnel.

It also roughly follows the route of an old creek that once drained Harris Lake in Fernwood. Both Harris Lake and the creek are now gone, but the storm drain tunnel remains.

I also don't think that the fact that this tunnel is a storm drain really detracts from the rumors. In the summer it is pretty dry down there. People could use this tunnel in the same way they could use any other tunnel. And it is functionally 'secret' for most purposes. I have spent a lot of time asking a lot of people in Victoria about storm drains and other tunnels, including city workers, and KublaKhan has been doing similar, and I would be surprised if more than a dozen people in Victoria knew of this tunnel's existence.

My point is just that there is a really cool [storm drain] tunnel there, and there are some very interesting stories surrounding it.

I attached a couple pictures from the UE DB, for the non-members to see. Enjoy!

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Isn't that Alan Lowes front porch?




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Isn't that Alan Lowes front porch?


It's his back door.

Think about it.




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