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UER Forum > Canada: Alberta / BC > Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. (Viewed 1421427 times)
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< Reply # 2220 on 12/29/2008 7:20 PM >
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< Reply # 2221 on 12/29/2008 7:24 PM >
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Just a new (NEW? yeah right)topic: let's start having a discussion on the satanism in Victoria! Fun, fun, fun! Victoria's the fucking Satanist capital of the world! Hooray!Fuck yeah!
No, seriously, I've been doing some 'primary' reseaerch on satanism(well, talking to other people who have been risking THEIR lives and limbs, rather, not mine) and, when I put all the reliable (omitting the stories told by unreliable people)personal stories from people, and check out stories and official public domain authoritative info on the internet, cross checking sources, some pretty strange stuff appears to be going on. Dunahee case: found a reliable guy (with an address!!!) who has a creepy but not far-fetched personal story involving the case. Ditto with Richard from Dark Horse Books, who had a bizarre encounter with the Temple of Set.
I'll write a very long post either tomorrow or the day after about these people's stories, and more.
Anyone got a story to tell????


Let's tread very very carefully on this one, okay folks? It's an ongoing investigation, it involves a missing child, and his parents are still looking for him.




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Yes, good point, KK. I believe that we should tread carefully on this issue. Sorry if I sounded insensitive.
I will post the details i've found tomorrow. The stories I've heard and will share are not sensationalist at all. I promise to cite sources. I've also heard stories from reliable friends that I personally refuse to repeat to others(such as the claim that Dunahee's father had his son killed, which to me sounds like mean spirited bullshit). I'll also give the full debunking info on the Michelle remembers thing. I''ll say it now, and again later: the people in the book are innocent, and since their real names have been used, they have suffered. More on that tomorrow. But real abuse has occured, I'm afraid, at the hands of the Temple of Set. More on that tomorrow.
Once again, my apologies.




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Oh thank God, you were starting to scare me.


NinjaKlutz: have you read Michelle Remembers? While some parts are believable I find it to be a load of bull. She simply seems to exhibit symptoms of schizophrenia and/or multiple personality disorder. Her so-called "repressed memories" were revealed during suggestion in hypnosis. Who's to say her psychologist didn't plant these ideas in her head? Altering the memories, just like forgetting them, could be a defense mechanism. The tunnels could have been a basement. (When I was 5, I thought a part of my parents' basement was a subway tunnel...) Maybe she was sexually and physically abused, and maybe rituals were performed, maybe not. Who knows.




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Oh thank God, you were starting to scare me.


NinjaKlutz: have you read Michelle Remembers? While some parts are believable I find it to be a load of bull. She simply seems to exhibit symptoms of schizophrenia and/or multiple personality disorder. Her so-called "repressed memories" were revealed during suggestion in hypnosis. Who's to say her psychologist didn't plant these ideas in her head? Altering the memories, just like forgetting them, could be a defense mechanism. The tunnels could have been a basement. (When I was 5, I thought a part of my parents' basement was a subway tunnel...) Maybe she was sexually and physically abused, and maybe rituals were performed, maybe not. Who knows.


'Michelle' is still with us, living quietly in a sea-side town.

Her recent work involves a running charitable organization here in Victoria geared towards helping disadvantaged people get a fresh start. Do some research and find the name of the organization, its history and its mandate, and you will see that Michelle is very much a decent and compassionate citizen. What happened in the book...false or not...is a matter of ancient history. Frankly, she's a bit embarrassed by the episode, and won't discuss it no matter what you dangle in front of her. Trust me...I tried many, many times to involve her in my film. Nadda. Zilch. Zero. "Go away." Nuff said. Leave her in peace. She's elderly and wants to live out her remaining days helping people get back on track.

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Well, KK, that's very good to hear. in fact, I think I'll eliminate the debunking of the book from my post, which I'll type at 8:30, just because, well, now that you said that, it's time to stop talking about it, then.




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Sorry, I'm a little past 8:30 for writing this post, not that anyone gives a shit.
Okay, satanism in Victoria.
Where to start?
Well, according to the owner of Dark Horse Books, an investigative journalist travelled to Victoria to research the satanist groups in the 1970's. Victoria turned out to be pretty benign, for the most part. No orgies in the tunnels.
Now, before I go any further, I would like to say that I think Satanism is a great religion. I have read the Satanic Bible, and have enjoyed it immensely. I am not a member of the Church of Satan, but I am fascinated in a positive sense about pagan cultures and satanism. I am especially interested in Mexican quasi-christian-paganist religions, especially the Mayan folks in the anarchist Chiapas region. (Zapatistas!!Research them. Not to be political or anything, but you will be truly inspired at how there is an independent anarchist state that functions very well and is capitalist and eco-friendly and democratic and safe and that has welfare systems, that has no police, and that has a very anarchist military with a perfect human rights record. We could learn a lot from them, I think).
Now, for the dark side of Satanism.

A VERY IMPORTANT NOTE ON THE SOURCES/bibliography
-Diana Napolis was a lady who accused Dr.Michael A. Aquino of satanic child abuse. Wikipedia her. She sounds like a nutbar; she threatened Steven spielberg even.
-Alex Constantine--I must do more research on him, but I will use him as a source. Why? Well, I've roughly overviewed his site (and please, if anyone finds anything suggesting that he's a weirdo, please tell me), and just looking at the sheer volume of detailed info on his site, and all the sources and dates etc. that he cites, and the fact that he is a well-known investigative journalist and author, I think I will use his stuff as sources. Currently, I think he has excellent info that I can trust. Pardon if anyone is offended by his more radical political thinkings. To get source I used, type in Alex Constantine Temple of Set....and click the first website on google search.
-Source that I have not read yet: San Francisco Examiner front page, 9/28/86
-Wikipedia(not much that I found directly on Temple of Set)
-The Temple of Set official web site
-Wikipedia, for MK-Ultra research
-A very bizarre and shadowy website that, on it's own, I would never trust, but, when compared to Alex Constantin's and other good sources of info, appears to have true information. To access site: type in 'dr.michael a. aquino abuse'. 2nd page, 2nd last site.
-Now Public's 'another short conversation with colonel michael aquino-head of mk-ultra project'---make what you want from this site....best to compare it to other info on web.
-And of course, just to be fair, http://www.xeper.o...no/Site/Index.html or type in dr.michael a aquino, first website. This is aquino's website. It is FULL of info from his point of view, on the Temple of Set abuse. Not just that, but his novels, his military reports, his opinions on the U.S military. ESSENTIAL READING. Note: he talks a lot about that nutbar lady, Diana Napolis. Also on website is A VERY INTERESTING OFFICIAL LIST OF AQUINO's DEGREES, DIPLOMAS, NUMEROUS AWARDS, APPOINTMENTS, MILITARY RANK, and MUCH MORE. BEST SOURCE: ASK THE GUY HIMSELF!
-My friend Robbie, who told me FRANK's *fake name* personal story. Rob is my friend at school. He's no weirdo. When break ends, and I go back to school, I shall get proper contact info, address, phone,etc. Please give me shit if I don't get on it soon. Frank is a member of the anarchist metal community that I am engaged with, so it's not like he's hard to find.
-Richard at Dark Horse Books.

HERE'S MY INFO.
Unlike the Church of Satan, the temple of Set is dangerous (in my opinion). Very. Founded by Dr. Michael A. Aquino in 1975, a secession from the COS. Doctor in psychological warfare, a colonel, he openly states that he was a very important part of the Bush administration. He's been around from Vietnam until 2003. He had satanic rituals at a former ss house in Germany, drawing allegations that he may be a neo-nazi. He very openly advocates US supremacy through terrifying people in other countries. He has been associated with the freaky but very well-documented MK-Ultra project carried out by the CIA. Google THAT. Have you heard of it already? He would psychologically torture MK victims, mostly children who had been given drugs, by making them see demons and such.
He has also been accused (and this is very well documented in disturbing detail) of taking part in the molestation of hundreds of children at a navy base in Concorde.
All charges and police cases against him have no chance in my opinion, thanks to the corrupt U.S. court system.

To join the Temple of Set, you must pay 500$, and get screened. 50% of applicants get turned away. (Church of Satan screens nobody). Most don't stay long in the Temple. It appears that a lot of the Temple's higher-up members are CIA folks. Everyone is constantly monitored, supposedly. I have no problem believing that. The official website is very vague.
Abuse by members of the Temple of Set is continent wide.
I was talking to Richard at Dark Horse Books. He told me this story:
Two years ago he got a phone call from a very professional psychiatrist from London, I believe. she had come to Victoria to try and talk to business owners to gather info for a police case. She was trying to get to the bottom of this story: she was couselling a woman who had been horribly abused in Victoria in a building clearly labelled 'Temple of Set'. Naturally, Richard tried to help the psychiatrist. He had no knowledge of the Temple, but he was compelled to help. He started doing research for the psychiatrist. But he realized that the Temple of Set was able to track him, so he was forced to stop. He didn't say if she succeeded, or if she's still working on it.
Around then, several of his loyal clients, whom he knew very well, came up to him and told him about their unpleasant experiences with the Temple of Set, and all the creepy stuff they are up to. They all told him to stop researching. Richard told me never to go in their places of worship, ever.
Creepy, eh?
Now, to Dunahee, that poor boy who practically vaporised. He was literally meters away from his parents, as well as a baseball game. Lots of people around. After reading JPeterman's info, the date's, the street name, the archangel's name Michael, the brown van story etc. and the discovery of the tunnel(which I would LOVE to go in sometime), I kinda got the willies. Then I heard this story.
Robbie told me about his friend FRANK, who's 20. He was thoroughly researching the secrets of the Victoria FreeMasons, who may be linked to the Temple of Set (I've not researched this). He wasn't joking about this story. I know he's been researching, because he has amassed lots of info, according to two of reliable friends of mine from the metal community, (excluding Robbie, of course). For instance, he found that there are 33 levels of FreeMasonry, instead of the openly stated 4.
Anyways, he was down at the former school, Univ. CanWest now, i think, doing measurements of the building for his studies, this time on the Dunahee case. He noticed two uniformed City Engineers on the roof. He went home for lunch.
Came back, studied area, measured for long time.
The workers thought he was a Freemason, likely because of his stature and behaviour. They started doing what FRANK claims were EXPLICIT Freemason hand signals which he had previously researched, at him.
He waved/said no! or something like that, 'cause he was getting spooked. He promptly left. The two Freemason engineers looked worried, he said.
As he was walking home, a labelled city engineering pickup sped up to him and skidded to a halt. A guy with a camera jumped out, quickly snapped a picture of Scott, got back in his car, and sped off. FRANK has been so spooked that he has stopped all of his research since. We should meet FRANK, make sure his version is the same as Robbie's. He'd love to meet us UE folks, a friend said.

Now, is there a connection between the Masons on the roof, and the tunnel? What kind of a connection could there possibly be? All I can say is,
a)there is inconclusive research
b)no connections may be drawn
c)but there is enough suspicious material for me to suspect that something, something strange is going about.

I just shudder to think of all the horrible things that could have happened to poor Michael, especially after reading all of this suspicious stuff about the circumstances. Now please, everyone, refrain from making mean spirited remarks about people, especially Dunahee's parents, as I have heard some pretty wild and insensitive remarks directed at them, from friends and on the internet.
PLEASE only post stuff that has sources, unless you have a plausible personal tale to tell. Thank you.
All I have been able to do here, I hope, is to at least thicken the story a little, although now I think there are more questions than answers.
I guess I should say that personally, I am currently only suspicious, and very suspicious, of one group, the TEMPLE of SET, but I am NOT drawing any lines to them or Dunahee.
About Dunahee, I am extremely suspicious about.........the whole case, but no one in particular. No evidence=there should be no defamation.
All we can say for sure is that some poor child disappeared off the face of the earth. Maybe someday someone will figure the case out, hopefully.
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It appears that a lot of the Temple's higher-up members are CIA folks. Everyone is constantly monitored, supposedly. I have no problem believing that.



Which of course, brings us back to mysterious maroon Lexus'! Get a plate, do the research! I'm sure you will find they were leased by the CIA!!!!!!!!!




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Which of course, brings us back to mysterious maroon Lexus'! Get a plate, do the research! I'm sure you will find they were leased by the CIA!!!!!!!!!


You're really really into this Lexus thing, aren't you?




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Let's tread very very carefully on this one, okay folks? It's an ongoing investigation, it involves a missing child, and his parents are still looking for him.


I don't want to be a party pooper here, but I am inclined to agree with KK.

I think that rather than tread carefully on this one, we should outright walk around it. If there is pertinent information to the investigation, then it should be provided to the police. I don't know that this topic is appropriate for a public thread of this sort. Of course, I am personally very interested in the topic, but would be more comfortable if it were continued in person or through PM. I have no issue with the Satanism talk; I have issue with M.D. talk in nearly any capacity over the internet in these sorts of threads. I can just picture being M.D.'s parents and stumbling across this forum...
I don't find the tone of this talk insensitive in any way - quite the opposite in fact - but as someone's parents, I would question why it is being issued as public knowledge or why it has not been provided to the police as part of the ongoing investigation.

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I don't want to be a party pooper here, but I am inclined to agree with KK.

I think that rather than tread carefully on this one, we should outright walk around it. If there is pertinent information to the investigation, then it should be provided to the police. I don't know that this topic is appropriate for a public thread of this sort. Of course, I am personally very interested in the topic, but would be more comfortable if it were continued in person or through PM. I have no issue with the Satanism talk; I have issue with M.D. talk in nearly any capacity over the internet in these sorts of threads. I can just picture being M.D.'s parents and stumbling across this forum...
I don't find the tone of this talk insensitive in any way - quite the opposite in fact - but as someone's parents, I would question why it is being issued as public knowledge or why it has not been provided to the police as part of the ongoing investigation.

My two bits - offered humbly. Take 'em or leave 'em.


My thoughts precisely. Every word of it. Thanks for expressing this view in such a clear and straight-forward way.




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o.K. Fair enough. Good point. I shall refrain from posting any further public thread stuff on this issue, but I'll PM you guys if I find something interesting down the road. I just want to tie the subject up with these remarks:

Have you checked out the website's I listed? Personally, I think Aquino's personal website is quite worth reading, even if Aquino is the centre of the controversies. Some legal battles have gone on already, by the way.
About the police case idea, marvellous point. Richard said the psychiatrist was actively involved in piecing together a police case, and his research was for the police/psychiatrist, because he thought the psychiatrist had a compelling case, and was very professional. I didn't ask what the case looks like today, but you could politely ask him. He was very friendly towards me.
About *FRANK*, I don't know if he has told police his story. I'll ask him when I meet him. Maybe he has, because, really, it is illegal to just scare the shit out of someone by taking a photo of them in that creepy manner.
That's my last public comment on this subject, then.

On a completely separate, cheerier note, happy New Year's everybody!
Where's all the holiday colours? I really miss those reindeer!
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You're really really into this Lexus thing, aren't you?


Yes, it appears to be the key to it all.




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"If there is pertinent information to the investigation, then it should be provided to the police. I am personally very interested in the topic..."



I like and mostly agree with the sensitive comments in your post yoshkow, especially these and K.K's tread carefully suggestion. However, respectful online discussions with the intent to hash out the facts, and potentially find clues that may help solve the mystery are valid.

People talk, and it's a damn interesting story. It's a new year, anything is possible, he may yet be found. Who but his abductors or adopted parents wouldn't want that? Perhaps DNA tests will prove it's him, even if he has no mental recollection of his childhood as M.D.

The Satanic '7' details are a fascinating and valid component of this mystery. Unless K.K. or Mods don't want it discussed here, then I see no harm. For those really interested though this thread is likely a better forum:



http://www.websleu...thread.php?t=37783

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Say, was just strolling down chinatown today and saw a shop that I guess I've always overlooked until now: The Chinese Freemason Fellowship. Right down the road from the lodge with the beehive wool shop. Also realized, you know that tall pink/beige plaster building between the Chinese public school and the old Freemason lodge? Well, it has a big plaster freemason symbol on it.
Also, someone told me that if you go up Douglas Street, just south of the intersection with Bay, there's that Budget car rental? Well, on the side of that car rental building is the 'Museum of Scientology'.
Also, who here has checked out Helmcken alley, that little alley with those weird overhead buttresses? I saw it for the first time, and was intrigued.
I'm not getting at anything here.
Just thought I'd point out these hidden landmarks to anyone curious who hasn't already stumbled upon them.




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Say, just wondering, about the thread I started on Nanaimo, I kinda noticed that no one's replied yet. I'm sorta beginning to wonder if there's any explorers from Nanaimo.........come out, come out, wherever you are..........(queue eerie music).....




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I like and mostly agree with the sensitive comments in your post yoshkow, especially these and K.K's tread carefully suggestion. However, respectful online discussions with the intent to hash out the facts, and potentially find clues that may help solve the mystery are valid.

People talk, and it's a damn interesting story. It's a new year, anything is possible, he may yet be found. Who but his abductors or adopted parents wouldn't want that? Perhaps DNA tests will prove it's him, even if he has no mental recollection of his childhood as M.D.

The Satanic '7' details are a fascinating and valid component of this mystery. Unless K.K. or Mods don't want it discussed here, then I see no harm.



Thanks for the support, A. Lien and KublaKhan and for your understanding, NinjaKlutz.

Partly, my comments were a reminder to myself too. Since I am so interested in this mystery, I constantly want to admonish myself not to Hardy Boyify a case that probably tears the heart out of M.D.'s parents every time they come across his name on some public thread. How hard it must be to see people writing statements like, "Well obviously x happened," or "I can't believe nobody has looked into x yet."

As much as we like to slag the po-po, they are generally very good at their jobs and have devoted incredible resources to this case over the years. Putting aside conspiracy theories of the po-po being involved in the upper echelons, or whatever - more than likely, they have looked into most or all of what we could think up on this thread. If not the po-po, then certainly M.D.'s parents have looked into it.

Respectful conversation about this topic is totally valid; though, I wonder how many of us have the discernment to actually be respectful in addressing this topic. Please, just don't make light of an event that would destroy me were it even slightly less removed from me personally.

KK said it best when he wrote, "...tread very very carefully on this one." (Notice the two "very"s!) I just may err on the side of avoidance altogether and I recommend most of us do the same.

Most movies are written by professional movie writers, not threaders. Most cases are solved by the authorities, not threaders. This case, might be akin to "Snakes on a Plane" - how cool would that be - but, let's remember that these are the exception.




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Thanks for the support, A. Lien and KublaKhan and for your understanding, NinjaKlutz.




No thanks necessary.



a case that probably tears the heart out of M.D.'s parents every time they come across his name on some public thread.



I have a five year old son. I'm 100% certain that every parent feels a particular chill when encountering the disappearance of a child. I have spent a bit of time sitting in that park, just sitting there and looking and trying to imagine what 'that day' might have looked like, and I've concluded that it looked exactly like any other day. It was not unusual or strange or mysterious. It was a spring day and people were out playing and the kids were fine and the dog was barking and then someone noticed that someone wasn't accounted for, and then all hell broke loose.


As much as we like to slag the po-po



Not me. You couldn't pay me enough to put up with the shit these people have to deal with on a constant and unending daily basis. Forget it. They have my respect.



KK said it best when he wrote, "...tread very very carefully on this one." (Notice the two "very"s!) I just may err on the side of avoidance altogether and I recommend most of us do the same.



This last bit is worth repeating.




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Re: Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels.
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Gee, beginning to wonder if anyone is UEing in Nanaimo......explorers, where are you.....where are you........




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