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Location: Tio'tia:ke / Montréal Total Likes: 58 likes
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| | | Re: Dealing with security measures < Reply # 5 on 9/20/2021 5:20 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by mandolinJones
I see. I'll probably go out scouting in the next few days. Is it chill if I post some photos here to see folks' thoughts on how secure it is?
| Post whatever photos you like, as long as they don't show any points of entry (POE): no pictures of a hole in the brickwork here, a missing plywood there, a ladder to an open window, etc. with a caption that says: "dO yOu ThiNK i can eNter thr0o heRe?? I'm suCh a n0Ob!". You get the... picture ;) In that same vein, don't drop place names ("That ACME factory, do0d!!") or give away locations. You got some really sound advice from "chuck barkley" : I would follow it. Start with low-stakes explores in the daytime, then work your way up. Once you start believing you have a right to explore places ( especially if you don't, in fact, have such a right), you'll attract less scrutiny and will be less likely to get caught - or to land yourself in serious trouble, if you do get caught. Welcome to UER. Good luck!
| The best time to explore was [however long] ago; the second best time is now. – Chinese proverb |
| mandolinJones
Location: Arizona Gender: Male Total Likes: 3 likes
| | | Re: Dealing with security measures < Reply # 6 on 9/21/2021 2:22 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by roue_libre
Once you start believing you have a right to explore places (especially if you don't, in fact, have such a right), you'll attract less scrutiny and will be less likely to get caught - or to land yourself in serious trouble, if you do get caught. Welcome to UER. Good luck!
| Gotcha! Thank you for that advice and welcome! I was able to visit the place again, tho I wasn't able to get any good photos, initially because I forgot my camera battery, and it was too dark to get anything worth looking at when I came back a second time that day. (I'll make sure to be more prepared on my next round) So some of my initial takes were a bit off. There aren't as many security cameras as I remember. As far as I could tell there were only three on one corner of the building, but nowhere else. There may have been some better-hidden cameras, but if there were I was not able to see them. Electricity is still being run to some interior lights, same as last time I checked, and some of the broken windows that I saw previously have been boarded up since my last visit a few months ago. Also when walking around the perimeter of the building I noticed some cars that: 1. Were (badly) but clearly intentionally hidden 2. Had occupants inside So, I'm curious if there's a possibility that they're a covert security presence to keep a watch on the place. To be fair this place is in the center of a really dense urban area, so they may be there for any number of non-surveillance reasons. I only saw two cars that gave me that sketchy vibe. Is there any precedent for something like this, or am I just being paranoid? lol. At this point, I'm fairly confident I can get in with ease and little to no destruction. My main concern currently is whether I'd get caught doing so.
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| dirtbagdav
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| | | Re: Dealing with security measures < Reply # 7 on 9/21/2021 2:08 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | To me, sketchy cars near a sketchy building sounds more like people getting high, and less like undercover security. How far are you from the building? Is it close enough you can buzz by two or three times in a week just to check for activity? In my area security cars are usually heavily branded as such. There is one company without decals, but the fleet is all some kind of white Ford sedan (so when there's more than one, you know right away) You sound pretty confident on getting in. Have you considered going early? I've gotten in places before sunrise, then just waited for the sun to come up. I dunno man, I'd just suggest doing more recon until you feel comfortable. Plan it all out. Generally, once you're in, you're in. If it is a security detail posted-up in cars, you can still be at the advantage, because you're aware of them before they're aware of you. Adjust accordingly. Also, don't skimp out on your exit plan either.
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| Dopamine
Location: STL, MO Gender: Neither Total Likes: 19 likes
always open to learning my wrongs from my rights
| | | Re: Dealing with security measures < Reply # 8 on 10/11/2021 7:05 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by chuck barkley As far as what to do when things go bad, it really depends on how it goes down. Everything happens so fast. But I would recommend not running unless you are absolutely sure you can get away. If you’re caught dead, just face it.
| This this this! Unless you've run from the cops successfully before, just don't. Chances are you can get away with a easy charade.. tourist , adventurer, stupid kid, crazed history buff... Just don't carry anything illegal on you, nothing that suggests illegal activity. AKA, spray paint, lock picks, chain cutters, scrapping tools etc. YOU WILL LOOK SUSPICIOUS.! If you're truly only interested in seeing the place, 'taking only photos leaving only footprints,' you will get away with a relatively lighter charge compared to if you intended to scrap or destroy. Cops hate arsonists more than they hate photographers.
| -Through Trial and Error I Proceed. |
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