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Sebk
Location: Michigan Gender: Male Total Likes: 8 likes
| | | Re: Active steel mill anyone? < Reply # 21 on 11/12/2020 6:45 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by KingKong I work in an active steel mill in western pa as a maintenance tech. Each mill is different, but using mine as an example, getting permission to enter the site as a regular member of the public is out of the question, much less photograph it. Even employees risk termination for snapping pics. It's taken very seriously. As for "infiltrating" the mill, good luck. You won't stand out at all, with no hardhat, no ppe, a big-ass camera, etc. Anything worth seeing is already being watched, whether it be guards or workers. There is literally a command center where >3 guards are watching the cameras 24/7, let alone the half dozen that are in patrol inside/outside. If caught, they'll most likely detain you & press trespassing charges. Lastly, mills are no place for sightseeing. It is a very dangerous environment that takes lives every year. I'm not trying to sound dramatic, but you could very easily get yourself or someone else hurt by not knowing what you are doing or where you are going. Inside, There is lots and lots of very big, very heavy and very hot stuff that is constantly on the move. Of course other places may be different. Use your head and don't be naive.
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What makes you think I wouldn’t just wear my work clothes and ppe? It would be stupid not to. I’m not really worried about the safety aspect, I’ve worked in heavy industry for a number of years now and steel mills are no more dangerous than what I do every day. I’m just trying to figure out if It’s possible, not have others tell me I shouldn’t do it because safety. I’ll be responsible for my safety. If I don’t know enough about something I don’t do it. That’s the single reason I haven’t been to this recently shutdown paper mill.
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| Sebk
Location: Michigan Gender: Male Total Likes: 8 likes
| | | Re: Active steel mill anyone? < Reply # 23 on 11/12/2020 6:56 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Samurai as i am someone who worked at the back end of a paper mill for 11 years, there are just some places you don't want to go wandering around unsupervised. Sorry if that seems against the ethos of this hobby, but a steel mill is a pretty dangerous place if you don't know what's going on around you. honestly, if you really really really want to see what goes on in one of these places, call the front office of the mill. Ask for their public relations department or general manager. Introduce yourself, tell them exactly why you'd like a tour and go from there. Be polite, be honest, tell them that you'd like to get some pictures if possible. If they don't like that idea, well, how bad do you want to see the inside. Go with it. the mill I worked at gave tours to the public all the time. If you use this method, you'll be reasonably safe, won't get burned/gassed/crushed looking at things. just my two cents anyway...
| I actually just finished a maintenance job at ak steel, it’s not that dangerous if you have half a brain. However the public relations dpt seemed pretty set about no pictures being taken. Guess I’ll try some other ones. Im hopping they all handle this type of stuff differently and I’ll have some luck.
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| Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York Total Likes: 1900 likes
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| | | Re: Active steel mill anyone? < Reply # 27 on 11/15/2020 5:45 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Radio2600 Years ago I worked for an engineering company that was doing some work at CF&I in Pueblo, Colorado. One day, there was a strange noise coming from an electric arc furnace and I noticed people running out of the building. I thought that perhaps I should be doing that as well. After getting outside, there was a loud BOOM. We went back inside to find puddles of molten steel all over the place. I would not imagine that this is not an everyday thing, but happens enough that the employees know when it's time to run. Good luck!
| the department I worked in, recausticizing, was right next to the power house. Because we took green liquor and steam from them, and our sewer went through their building on its way to water treatment, my duties took me in the building from time to time. One of the things the guys that worked in there told me was that if things weren't booming and making a ton of racket, run... get to the nearest exit and haul ass. On one side was the recovery boiler, on the other, the power boiler. funny haha about that... i had to go over there for a lockout one afternoon. We were acid washing one of the green liquor pumps and then opening up the line, so it had to be double isolated (that's locks on the valves on both sides). I go in to close their valve and next thing you know, these 75lb sewer grates are blasting out of the floor and smashing into the ceiling at like the speed of light, and we're dodging them like it's a game! Come to find out the recovery boiler had burned a hole through itself and molten smelt was dropping into the sewer and exploding... It was funny as hell to watch as I was closing the valve. That boiler ran like that for three months until the annual outage. but if you didn't work there, or know what the hell was going, that would scare the shit out of you.
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| Radio2600
Location: On the Road to Wellville Total Likes: 1700 likes
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| | | Re: Active steel mill anyone? < Reply # 28 on 11/16/2020 4:11 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Samurai
the department I worked in, recausticizing, was right next to the power house. Because we took green liquor and steam from them, and our sewer went through their building on its way to water treatment, my duties took me in the building from time to time. One of the things the guys that worked in there told me was that if things weren't booming and making a ton of racket, run... get to the nearest exit and haul ass. On one side was the recovery boiler, on the other, the power boiler. funny haha about that... i had to go over there for a lockout one afternoon. We were acid washing one of the green liquor pumps and then opening up the line, so it had to be double isolated (that's locks on the valves on both sides). I go in to close their valve and next thing you know, these 75lb sewer grates are blasting out of the floor and smashing into the ceiling at like the speed of light, and we're dodging them like it's a game! Come to find out the recovery boiler had burned a hole through itself and molten smelt was dropping into the sewer and exploding... It was funny as hell to watch as I was closing the valve. That boiler ran like that for three months until the annual outage. but if you didn't work there, or know what the hell was going, that would scare the shit out of you.
| That reminds me another incident with the electric arc furnace. They were doing a cold start and it sounded like the world was coming to an end. I was informed that racket was totally normal. Although I was not present when it happened. I was told of an incident where they tried to cold start, but forget that the ground clamps were still on. They got a phone call from the power company that they stalled the generators with the load it pulled.
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| Samurai Vehicular Lord Rick
Location: northeastern New York Total Likes: 1900 likes
No matter where you go, there you are...
| | | Re: Active steel mill anyone? < Reply # 29 on 11/16/2020 4:02 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Radio2600
That reminds me another incident with the electric arc furnace. They were doing a cold start and it sounded like the world was coming to an end. I was informed that racket was totally normal. Although I was not present when it happened. I was told of an incident where they tried to cold start, but forget that the ground clamps were still on. They got a phone call from the power company that they stalled the generators with the load it pulled.
| in the control rooms of the pulp mill and recaust, we had two lights in the ceiling, one blue, the other yellow. If the yellow light started flashing, we had to start pulling pulp and get ready to flush lines and shut things down. If the blue light start to flash, it was assholes and elbows to get things shut down NOW! What the lights meant was that the power house was having trouble and we were on the brink of losing steam, mill air pressure and/or electrical power, three things everything runs off. there used to be an alarm that accompanied the lights, but one of the operators took a hammer to it one dark and stormy night when it woke him up.
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