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| | | | Re: Obnoxious new explorers < Reply # 28 on 3/15/2020 2:08 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by AdventureDan
apparently you aren't well versed in your local trespass laws blackhawk. Many states lack a "simple" trespass law, and the charge defaults to criminal trespass regardless of what you are doing there.
| Yes, yes I am... If the property isn't secured ie fence with a locked gate and especially if not posted and you haven't been verbally warned, what I said is quit true in most states. Intent has a lot to do with how a LEO will deal with you as well as your attitude. A cop can arrest if they want to even if the charge doesn't stick... I've been "caught" multiple times over the decades, even admitted to trespassing at Pennhurst to State Troopers, on active RR tracks by local and rail police multiple times/states (including Texas) with no charges or arrest. Most times the LEOs didn't even verbally trespass me out allowing me to return in the future It's not so clear cut. Know where the line is and how far you crossed it, if any. Cops are far less likely to overlook felony crimes than minor ones. Don't be an arrogant ass with your trespassing intents or when dealing with LEOs. WYSIWYG has served me well in dealing with LEOs. https://legalbeagl...-pennsylvania.html
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| | | Re: Obnoxious new explorers < Reply # 37 on 3/31/2020 9:49 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by kidchaos23 I've been exploring for a while, but this is probably a rookie question so I'm sticking it in the rookie forum. There are some baby explorers in my region who are super obnoxious. One tried to reach out to me as a woman who also explores, and I was really excited about it! Then she blasted one of my favorite locations on every site she could (I didn't take her there or anything, she did this on her own). I told her it wasn't a good idea because it gets these places shut down, trashed, burned down, etc. But she didn't change it. She still does this. I deleted her because it just seemed like a lot to deal with. She does a lot of things FOR THE LIKES AND VIEWS CLICK SUBSCRIBE. Also, while I really don't have anything against graffiti (which is a position not everyone shares, I know), a bunch of them are leaving sloppy tags of their Instagram accounts. Like, idk, maybe this is a personal pet peeve, but if you're gonna tag something, at least make it good? Make it art? Try, even a little? Is there...anything I can do about this? Without being a bastard? I try to be friendly and welcoming, and I know people are free and are going to do whatever. But I also really want to protect these places. Is there even a point to worrying about this?
| I am new to exploring and I didn't realize that posting a lot about certain locations would put them at risk, thank you for the heads up! Incidentally, I only wanted to post most of my stuff here because I figured urban exploration exploits would be more accepted in this environment than say on facebook, haha. As for this girl ratting out your favorite locations, I believe that you have done all you can do and that there is no more point in worrying; you told her the risks of her posting these things out and you discouraged it, that's all you really can do. However, raising awareness to the new crowd of explorers, like me, about how posting things out can put some places in jeopardy is effective!
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