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UER Forum > Archived UE Photography > Yet Another Short Video... (Viewed 198 times) Heartless  Location: Dakota Territory Gender: Male nowhere is a state of mind  |  |  |  Yet Another Short Video... < on 9/13/2004 9:45 AM >   Once again, I've taken a break from homework (even though I know damn well I shouldn't) to do some photo/video work with Apoxx in the fine city of Grand Forks, North Dakota. Tonight was all experimentation with timelapse and long exposures, and once I returned to my house I just had to start putting things together in Windows Movie Maker, the greatest piece of free software in existence. Gary Jules' "Mad World" was playing in the next room, and before I realized it, it was 4:30 AM and I had just finished another sample intro to the short film I have in mind; the one I hope to complete before the end of this semester. The opening timelapse is courtesy of Apoxx, his EOS 10-D, and a Sigma wide angle lens of some kind. The rest was all done with my Canon A-80. Allow me to apologize in advance for the poor quality; the original file I ended up with was over 23 MB, so I had to save it the best I could for 13 MB so friends of mine with slow connections (and perhaps some of you) can download it without too much trouble. It's 1:49 long, could have been longer but WMM likes to crash on me due to lack of sufficient memory and I had to uninstall Premiere because it was a bad copy and gave me too many headaches. Anyways, enjoy. http://www.midnightgroup.org/best_sound.wmv edits: fixed sound / link [last edit 9/13/2004 2:00 PM by Heartless - edited 2 times] "I hope that I find you in heaven, because I'm so lost without you down here..." Lost Highway Photography Kenshin  Location: Eagan, MN Gender: Male  |  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 1 on 9/13/2004 7:48 PM >   I love how it was pushing 50% of my 1.67 gHz processor to run it. ProductOfDetroit  Location: Detroit/Troy Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 2 on 9/13/2004 8:00 PM >   Tight video and all, but whys it gotta be so depressing? Maybe its just me though, oh, and the JD bottles the best. Good job bro http://www.flickr.com/photos/product34/ abandonedmuse69  Account closed as requested.  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 3 on 9/14/2004 12:07 AM >   what can i say it was awesome...the stop motion is amazing...i agree its depressing but life is depressing sometimes...i think its deeply beautiful in its own way. its pretty tight except you cut the last part out of the song!!! WTF? i would have faded out...it cuts off too abruptly. i loved the transposing of the letters...an amazing idea. your so creative! besides that the quality looks great...sound quality is amazing... what compression tool are you using? i'll prob talk to you on im later anyways... but i guess write it on the forum to let others know. [last edit 9/14/2004 12:08 AM by abandonedmuse69 - edited 1 times] I am always doing things I can't do, that's how I get to do them. --Pablo Picasso Jesus Jones  This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. Location: back in Belleville Gender: Male 1973-2005  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 4 on 9/14/2004 12:08 AM >   Holy hell! I can download a 30min porno in less time! Surprisingly it uped my CPU handle of 2%. Any more depressing Id have a bullet in my head. It was good. [11:23:20] * nightbird looks at jj's crotch in amazement [19:48:06] <Freak> YOUR TOAD A SPLODE [22:04:21] <keti> in fact, im rather robotic Virginity does not collect intrest. -Andrea [15:44:19] <Kellogs> i'm part of a complete breakfast you know =P wait...that sounds so wrong Shiv The Planet  Gender: Male too little, much too late  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 5 on 9/14/2004 12:29 AM >   Whenever I hear "Lost Highway" it reminds me of this: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/journal/page/?opts=300&page_id=7826&mtime=20040811105158 That's a pretty interesting video you have there. Is the end product going to involve a plot, or just a bunch of artsy things and quotes thrown together? Life is a series of calculated risks... I've always sucked at math. Heartless  Location: Dakota Territory Gender: Male nowhere is a state of mind  |  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 6 on 9/14/2004 1:35 AM >   Thanks for the input, glad you liked it. It does have a plot, its actually based on a short story I wrote a few summers ago. It's about life, and like c_c said, life is depressing sometimes but it's almost always beautiful no matter what the circumstances. "I hope that I find you in heaven, because I'm so lost without you down here..." Lost Highway Photography Frozen  Location: Minneapolis, MN Gender: Male Three-D  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 7 on 9/14/2004 4:32 AM >   Wow, fantastic video Heartless! That is great stuff I love it. Urban Exploration MatC  Nobler Donor Location: ENY Gender: Male Accepted everywhere  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 8 on 9/14/2004 12:20 PM >   I enjoyed the video, especially the beginning car scenes -- very well done. The beginning sets the mood very well, and I like the confusing/unifying aspects of the cut-out words appearing, and then forming into other sentences. That was classy. Constructive criticism: 1) The tilt-up where you see all the photos, you should use a tripod, move slowly, and (if possible) use many more photos and make them into more of a collage. That way you get more of an overwhelming effect, like "wow, look at all those old times where the people pictured are having fun... now they're just images on a wall," etc. (I'm sure that you probably just used them the way they were already on the wall, just to see if the effect looked cool, and it definitely does work.) 2) As with #1, if you're planning on using the shot with the JD bottle, maybe have some other "wreckage" strewn about, since someone who has pounded a bottle of liquor usually doesn't care how/where the bottle falls, you know? (Maybe even get a friend to leave a hand on the bottle... but that all depends on the larger story you're going for.) 3) Don't get too far beyond the objects you're panning/tilting before getting to the next shot, or else people will think there's more coming. This happens most pronouncedly (is that a word?) with the photos, but a little bit with the sink (nice shot, by the way -- very disconcerting without being disturbing). It just makes people anticipate that another object (possibly something even more interesting than what they just looked at) is going to appear in frame, and then it's slightly disappointing when it doesn't. If you transition just as the object is leaving the frame, though, it keeps people's interest up, like, "oh, here's another part of the story... can I figure out what's going on here?" Like I said, you've got a great concept and a lot of good ideas for cool shots to do. Is this for a video production class? (I assume not, since you said you were taking a break from homework to do it.) Is there anywhere on your campus that you could show the final work (if you wanted to)? P.S. -- Sorry for the long post. My dorky video-major past is showing... -- Mat "We shall not cease from exploration / And the end of all our exploring / Will be to arrive where we started / And know the place for the first time." - T.S. Eliot, excerpt from "Little Gidding" abandonedmuse69  Account closed as requested.  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 9 on 9/14/2004 3:56 PM >   Posted by MatC I enjoyed the video, especially the beginning car scenes -- very well done. The beginning sets the mood very well, and I like the confusing/unifying aspects of the cut-out words appearing, and then forming into other sentences. That was classy. Constructive criticism: 1) The tilt-up where you see all the photos, you should use a tripod, move slowly, and (if possible) use many more photos and make them into more of a collage. That way you get more of an overwhelming effect, like "wow, look at all those old times where the people pictured are having fun... now they're just images on a wall," etc. (I'm sure that you probably just used them the way they were already on the wall, just to see if the effect looked cool, and it definitely does work.) 2) As with #1, if you're planning on using the shot with the JD bottle, maybe have some other "wreckage" strewn about, since someone who has pounded a bottle of liquor usually doesn't care how/where the bottle falls, you know? (Maybe even get a friend to leave a hand on the bottle... but that all depends on the larger story you're going for.) 3) Don't get too far beyond the objects you're panning/tilting before getting to the next shot, or else people will think there's more coming. This happens most pronouncedly (is that a word?) with the photos, but a little bit with the sink (nice shot, by the way -- very disconcerting without being disturbing). It just makes people anticipate that another object (possibly something even more interesting than what they just looked at) is going to appear in frame, and then it's slightly disappointing when it doesn't. If you transition just as the object is leaving the frame, though, it keeps people's interest up, like, "oh, here's another part of the story... can I figure out what's going on here?" Like I said, you've got a great concept and a lot of good ideas for cool shots to do. Is this for a video production class? (I assume not, since you said you were taking a break from homework to do it.) Is there anywhere on your campus that you could show the final work (if you wanted to)? P.S. -- Sorry for the long post. My dorky video-major past is showing... -- Mat great ideas mat! school paid off I am always doing things I can't do, that's how I get to do them. --Pablo Picasso Heartless  Location: Dakota Territory Gender: Male nowhere is a state of mind  |  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 10 on 9/14/2004 7:26 PM >   Posted by MatC I enjoyed the video, especially the beginning car scenes -- very well done. The beginning sets the mood very well, and I like the confusing/unifying aspects of the cut-out words appearing, and then forming into other sentences. That was classy. Thanks you Constructive criticism: 1) The tilt-up where you see all the photos, you should use a tripod, move slowly, and (if possible) use many more photos and make them into more of a collage. That way you get more of an overwhelming effect, like "wow, look at all those old times where the people pictured are having fun... now they're just images on a wall," etc. (I'm sure that you probably just used them the way they were already on the wall, just to see if the effect looked cool, and it definitely does work.) Ah yes. My tripod was outside in my truck, it had since begun raining, and the three shots I did in my basement were completely last minute. I actually had about 25 photos with me, but I ran out of Scotch tape and I couldn't find anything else for the life of me. Besides, it was already 3-4 AM and I had to be on the other side of campus by 8, so I was cutting a few corners. Especially since the .avi mode on my A80 is poor enough before you throw in the quality loss through compression, etc., a tripod alone would have made the entire thing that much better. 2) As with #1, if you're planning on using the shot with the JD bottle, maybe have some other "wreckage" strewn about, since someone who has pounded a bottle of liquor usually doesn't care how/where the bottle falls, you know? (Maybe even get a friend to leave a hand on the bottle... but that all depends on the larger story you're going for.) It scares me that we think so much alike. The scene actually calls for broken glass and other "debris," and I had actually given serious through to shooting it in a certain ruined structure near my home in the Minneapolis area. Tha hand in the shot wou;dn't fit the whole idea I have in mind. 3) Don't get too far beyond the objects you're panning/tilting before getting to the next shot, or else people will think there's more coming. This happens most pronouncedly (is that a word?) with the photos, but a little bit with the sink (nice shot, by the way -- very disconcerting without being disturbing). It just makes people anticipate that another object (possibly something even more interesting than what they just looked at) is going to appear in frame, and then it's slightly disappointing when it doesn't. If you transition just as the object is leaving the frame, though, it keeps people's interest up, like, "oh, here's another part of the story... can I figure out what's going on here?" I agree with you 100%. But like I said, I was running with an idea (why do I always become inspired at 3am?) and Iended up not finishing until almost 6. If I were to do it again, I'd definitely cut them shorter. Like I said, you've got a great concept and a lot of good ideas for cool shots to do. Is this for a video production class? (I assume not, since you said you were taking a break from homework to do it.) Is there anywhere on your campus that you could show the final work (if you wanted to)? Actually, it was for a class, kind of. It's a basic level digital video class, and my assignment for the weekend was just to gather random footage so I could start learning how to edit today. My first day showing up to the class (probably the third or fourth day), they were learning how to turn on the cameras. So basically, I wanted to put something together to show the prof that I kind of have a grip on things already (I've used Premiere a bunch, some analog) so I wouldn't have to do the piddly things and I could get class credit for finishing this "Blue" idea. Her answer is pending. P.S. -- Sorry for the long post. My dorky video-major past is showing... -- Mat Oh no, I appreciate the comments. Have you joined the Video board that c_c started? I thought there was another one here already but I'm most likely mistaken. "I hope that I find you in heaven, because I'm so lost without you down here..." Lost Highway Photography Asylunt  Location: MPLS Gender: Male The Friendly Beer!  |  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 11 on 9/14/2004 7:56 PM >   curious cat started the Film board and I have the A/V Club so you may have been thinking of that one. I liked the video Heartless, we really need to do something together sometime. I like your artistic vision with things. Asylunt "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." Mark Twain MatC  Nobler Donor Location: ENY Gender: Male Accepted everywhere  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 12 on 9/15/2004 12:00 AM >   Posted by Heartless Tha hand in the shot wou;dn't fit the whole idea I have in mind. I am interested to see what the final product of this video will be like. Do you plan the whole thing to be more experimental (like the car shots and the non-sequitur blood-in-the-sink pan), or will it be more of a narrative? Either way it looks interesting. Posted by Heartless (why do I always become inspired at 3am?) I have a similar problem of misplaced inspiration. I am always inspired with ideas for articles or screenplays as I am driving to work... mere moments before any creative urges are stifled by the crushing insanity which is my workplace. Posted by Heartless Actually, it was for a class, kind of. It's a basic level digital video class, and my assignment for the weekend was just to gather random footage so I could start learning how to edit today. Ugggghhhh... there's nothing worse than a required class of stuff you already know to do. Usually, though, profs are flexible and will allow you to either do creative things for your required assignments, or (depending on their personality and whether they have tenure or not) will cut you some slack and let you just do cool stuff all the time, as long as you come see them now and then (office hours aren't just for sucking up -- profs like people who have skills to come visit them, because they get tired of dealing with punks jerks students who have no desire to learn and are just in college for the pot and/or because Mommy and Daddy are paying). So, yes, I encourage you to take this up with the professor. Maybe she'll have some good suggestions once you describe the idea more fully to her. -- Mat "We shall not cease from exploration / And the end of all our exploring / Will be to arrive where we started / And know the place for the first time." - T.S. Eliot, excerpt from "Little Gidding" Heartless  Location: Dakota Territory Gender: Male nowhere is a state of mind  |  |  |  Re: Yet Another Short Video... <Reply # 13 on 9/15/2004 1:09 AM >   Posted by MatC I am interested to see what the final product of this video will be like. Do you plan the whole thing to be more experimental (like the car shots and the non-sequitur blood-in-the-sink pan), or will it be more of a narrative? Either way it looks interesting. Actually it was old jello shots in the sink...but that was the effect I was going for I plan on it being more of a narrative; like I said, it's somewhat based on a short story i wrote in high school. If you would like a copy of this story to get an idea of what I'm talking about, I can email it to you as a .rtf or a .wpd (I curse Dell for not offering me Microsoft Word at a reasonable price, the bastards). "I hope that I find you in heaven, because I'm so lost without you down here..." 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