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UER Forum > UE Main > I need to share this with you and have your comment about it. (Viewed 722 times)
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I need to share this with you and have your comment about it.
< on 2/21/2018 9:10 AM >
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So I have a pretty rough conversation with a soldier in the Canadian army and I want to share with you and say what you think. Not going to put name and I remove personal information. Let me contextualize.

He has not implicated in anyway way in the urban exploration, he doesn't even know what it is. It's a guy I knew.

So I ask him if he can procure color flare/fumigene bombs for a photo concept and he answer this:



He after adds that it's illegal and we can go to jail. And it's something that he will normally have to report to our national counter intelligence unit (military police)

I refute by saying that he is wrong and we can buy it online and add an article about how easy we can buy fumigene bombs. Also show some examples of photo with it.

He then told me what it's sold in the marked are knock-off less powerful replicas of what we use in the military, or they're real thing and illegal.

This message he sends me after is what make me so piss off.



I tell his way to think is "black or white". And know a lot of people trap in that. But for me, I'm not following that. If you really want to enjoy life, you need to take a risk.

This is what I wrote:
"I climb crane, illegal rooftop, abandoned stuff. And i don't do take for fun... yes in a way, but mostly because i like the danger, the scary part, and take unique photography. I like creativity, i like to surpass my fear. You think that's wrong and immature, but for some, it is our way to be yourself and not traping in that monotone society. Everyone need to have something to do, our we will go crazy
For example, if ”hunting” become illegal, there will be a lot more criminal, because they don't have something to occupy themselves, the single thing that they love is forbidden. This is my way to see the world. And you can just type photography fumigene bombs and there you go. It's not something new."

So I send some of my pictures of climbing, urbexing...
IG: https://www.instagram.com/donpicturehd/

And then he adds that I don't make sense, people work in the arts, they don't break laws to do it.

In reality, the article I show him before, it is also about some kid light up a fumigene in the subway. And it gave us, photographer, the wrong impression. We got a little talk about how there will be always some people giving us a bad impression.

And next thing he adds, it's what makes me think he is so narrow-minded and not familiar with urbex. In short, he told me that it isn't illegal if I have the permission to climb a crane with safety equipment and for a reason. As if it was that simple, that they will let us by demanding a permission...



In general what i answer in french is that the way we do our stuff isn't familiar with you. And when he see it's illegal, cause of laws, he doesn't bother to trying to understand why we do it for creativity, photgraphy or any reason. Even I try to explain him from the begening. And this is not some weird shit I'm the only one that do it, just open ur eyes. Be more open-minded.

Before I add something like follow my ig and someone out there that do the same thing like me, he will maybe understand, but he block me before I have to chance. But I already told him everything I have to say about this subject.

So what do you think? Am I wrong? I already try to enlist in the army, after knowing how they treat their soldier by restraint there way to think, I think I will chance my mind.

Sorry for my broken english!




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So maybe I'm misunderstanding as I'm not familiar with the materials involved, but... did you ask a soldier to get you explosives/pyrotechnics stored by the military so that you could then trespass with those explosives and use them to take pictures? Because that was never going to go well.

Also:

"I climb crane, illegal rooftop, abandoned stuff. And i don't do take for fun"

You then go on to explain that you do it for fun.




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Sounds like you said too much to the wrong person. I don't know your relationship with this soldier so I can't really say exactly how wrong.

I also don't think smoke grenades are all that important to urban exploration.




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I also don't think smoke grenades are all that important to urban exploration.


Do you even UER?

What next, you gonna tell me I don't need the acrylic sphere to get good photos?









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What kind of moron would risk starting a structure fire or damaging another persons property just to shoot a few artsy fartsy photos? pfffftt

That's not exploring that's self glorification, probably for Instgram follows?









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What kind of moron would risk starting a structure fire or damaging another persons property just to shoot a few artsy fartsy photos? pfffftt

That's not exploring that's self glorification, probably for Instgram follows?








http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0

This kind of moron.




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Do you even UER?

What next, you gonna tell me I don't need the acrylic sphere to get good photos?








You can take my fisheye lens, steel wool and gas mask when you pry them from my COLD. DEAD. HANDS.





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I'm talking about smoke grenade/bomb.
https://en.wikiped...wiki/Smoke_grenade

https://www.pinter...mbe-fumig%C3%A8ne/

Posted by DescentOnARope

"I climb crane, illegal rooftop, abandoned stuff. And i don't do take for fun"

You then go on to explain that you do it for fun.


I say that there's a part that I really like this kind of hobbies, but also for the adrenaline, and then you should know the feeling to be in the roof of a tower. And you can take some great picture, this is my first reason why I explore. So why did you explore?

Posted by Steed
Sounds like you said too much to the wrong person. I don't know your relationship with this soldier so I can't really say exactly how wrong.

I also don't think smoke grenades are all that important to urban exploration.


1. Yes, you probably right, but trying to convince him that it's not a big deal. He seems like it's something forbidden, I (we) should stop doing this or we will go to jail. This is why I said he can't open his mind to other way to be since in the military is black or white. And I have other military friends, it's something common.

2. I do not agree, the material is used to be more creative. Maybe you are not familiar with smoke bombs (since I think I use the wrong term in my topic). Just look for smoke bombs photography. Maybe you know why I want to use it for a photo in urbex since it's fit really well.

Posted by 2Xplorations

What kind of moron would risk starting a structure fire or damaging another persons property just to shoot a few artsy fartsy photos? pfffftt

That's not exploring that's self glorification, probably for Instgram follows?


If it's used carfully, there isn't a probleme.
That's your judgement, but false.



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So you torpedo the conversation by asking for smoke grenades, then soap box about UE for who's sake..? Certainly not his, it's pretty clear that he's not into whatever you're talking about.

Self-righteous mode wasn't the answer here. This isn't for everyone. It's good social practice to gauge interest in anything before you launch into a topic. That discretion is what keeps you from annoying people, or telling too much to the wrong person, as Steed said.

Maybe I've missed something but I don't see much sense in then posting this here. It's a bad look, and pretty cringey IMO




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