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UER Forum > US: Great Lakes > Semi-Abandoned Ammunition Plant/Military Base (Viewed 2954 times)
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Semi-Abandoned Ammunition Plant/Military Base
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After seeing a YouTube video and reading up on the history of this place, I absolutely had to check it out before it completely returned to dust (this site is in the process of redevelopment; most of the buildings seen in other threads are gone).

Built for World War II, this plant also manufactured munitions for the Korean and Vietnam wars. Apparently, this plant made some really interesting stuff, including depleted uranium tank penetrators and incendiary rounds.

Eventually, environmental regulators realized what was up and designated the site a Superfund site in 1983. Since then, a massive cleanup effort has been underway to clean up the various organic, inorganic, and radioactive chemicals found about the site. Plans for the site now include redevelopment into a city commons area.

Although some of the more interesting buildings (i.e. the ones that used DU) have been destroyed, there are a few good ones still standing. Attached is a map showing numbers for the buildings that once were on the site. Buildings 189, 135, and 338A remain, along with some smaller unnamed buildings. A bit of research shows these buildings were Blank Cartridge Building, Primer Manufacture, and Explosives Manufacturing Plant.

https://www.pdf-ar...mapofbuildings.pdf

The sketchy thing about this particular site is that it really isn't entirely abandoned. Most of the plot has been taken over by the National Guard and is actively used for military training. On a scouting mission late one night I was rather surprised to see military vehicles (Hummers?) patrolling one of the patrol roads that encircles the installation. I also saw figures moving around a building off in the distance - probably urban training.

Anyhow, the part with buildings toward the north end of the plot is not part of the National Guard installation, so theoretically, you wouldn't get shot if caught there.

Inside building 189:


Lots of spools of heavy wire rope around this building:


Some sort of pump/engine/compressor - looks like there are pulleys for the wire rope:


A loading wing with some nice antique signage:


Framed!


Obviously some people feel comfortable going to this site (they disposed of a playset slide):


Was this used for heating, cooling, or the fumehoods?


More wire rope - wonder what is was used for.


Why? Why a dog house in the middle of a military complex?


A telephone pole stands defiantly amongst the tall grasses:


Passage through earthen berms surrounding storage bunkers:


Inside a storage bunker. Refrigerators for explosives?


Sign outside storage bunker:


Storage bunker from a distance. They are enormous.


Doors to a wing inside building 135:


This is where the magic happened:


It would have been neat to see this factory set up with tables, etc.


Nothing but falling ceilings now:


What did the tube from the ceiling transport?


An oven/forced air drying room:


The quality of graffiti ranges from immaturely obscene to quite beautiful:


Lots of these covered walkways around the site:


Gotta love seeing such ominous signs around the facility:


It would seem the heavy steel blast doors seal you in with the exploding primer...


Lead styphnate storage in building 338A: A couple hundred pounds of sensitive primary explosive all in one room...


Add asbestos to the list of toxic things found here:


A pleasant pastel blue door found in an weapons manufacturing plant:


Wonder how far the door would fly if the cubicle's contents went off...


Home free!



If anyone has comments on the pictures, I would love to hear some constructive criticism so I can improve in the future. Also, it would be really interesting to hear if anyone has ever found ammunition or uranium at one of these sites.




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"Wonder how far the door would fly if the cubicle's contents went off..."

That's a big reason why they learned to be careful about the maximum quantity of what material is allowed to be in what room/facility, and why explosives some production or storage facilities were further away than others were. In your example, as long as the rules posted on the door were followed, the cubicle should have either absorbed the blast intact, or the roof would have been the weakest point, channeling the blast effects upward.

Look-up "Explosive Quantity Distance" on Google.

Also, just FYI, the munitions igloos were usually designed to collapse upon themselves in the event of an interior explosion, in order to contain most of the effects & hopefully dilute/blanket unexploded material with the soil that'd covered the roof. You'll see some site have a concrete-reinforced berm about 10' away from the igloo entrance door. That's to absorb/channel the blast effects skyward if an explosion occurs while the entrance door was open.



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Nice pics! I remember checking this place out back in March. My buddies and I didn't get there until waaaay past sunset. That, mixed with the fact that we were incredibly convinced that we would be shot on sight if caught (yeah, we can get a little paranoid) meant our POE involved literally crawling through the mud along the creek for about an hour. On our way out, we realized there was an open walking path that went right up to the fence. Still worth it.



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I love the angles and perspectives! I feel like even with my portraiture I just shoot straight ahead and everything centered. This gave a really cool view into everything.




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Posted by Ti6Al4V
Also, it would be really interesting to hear if anyone has ever found ammunition or uranium at one of these sites.


Possession of uranium... I'm sure that is just a slap on the wrist

Good pictures! Definitely some interesting subject matter. We have an old ammunition plant around here that is supposed to be really interesting. It too is only semi-abandoned and oft patrolled. Reading someone's post here about trespassing on federal property has made me scared to check it out.




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Thank you all for the interesting insights and bits of historical information! That is what I love about this forum... there are plenty of knowledgeable people to enhance your experience.

Regarding entry, I am still unclear of the "allowedness" the exploration. In the day, I saw someone in bright colors (a normal citizen enjoying recreation on a fine evening?) biking around the area I explored, which calmed my nerves somewhat. Still, paranoia was rampant on the nighttime scouting mission.

While the "Army crawl" POE certainly sounds adventurous, I find that Google's satellite imagery is an incredibly useful tool for scoping out directions of easier entry as well as locations of possible spotters (houses, etc).

Also, thank you for the compliments on the pictures. I believe the time ("golden hours" of photography - sunset/sunrise) helped, and I also edited in Pixlr to improve color and exposure.




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Cool shit, thanks for sharing!




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Thank you all for the interesting insights and bits of historical information! That is what I love about this forum... there are plenty of knowledgeable people to enhance your experience.

Regarding entry, I am still unclear of the "allowedness" the exploration. In the day, I saw someone in bright colors (a normal citizen enjoying recreation on a fine evening?) biking around the area I explored, which calmed my nerves somewhat. Still, paranoia was rampant on the nighttime scouting mission.

While the "Army crawl" POE certainly sounds adventurous, I find that Google's satellite imagery is an incredibly useful tool for scoping out directions of easier entry as well as locations of possible spotters (houses, etc).

Also, thank you for the compliments on the pictures. I believe the time ("golden hours" of photography - sunset/sunrise) helped, and I also edited in Pixlr to improve color and exposure.


It's definitely not legal, my buddy got chased by some cops there not too long ago.





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Posted by Ti6Al4V
Thank you all for the interesting insights and bits of historical information! That is what I love about this forum... there are plenty of knowledgeable people to enhance your experience.

Regarding entry, I am still unclear of the "allowedness" the exploration. In the day, I saw someone in bright colors (a normal citizen enjoying recreation on a fine evening?) biking around the area I explored, which calmed my nerves somewhat. Still, paranoia was rampant on the nighttime scouting mission.

While the "Army crawl" POE certainly sounds adventurous, I find that Google's satellite imagery is an incredibly useful tool for scoping out directions of easier entry as well as locations of possible spotters (houses, etc).

Also, thank you for the compliments on the pictures. I believe the time ("golden hours" of photography - sunset/sunrise) helped, and I also edited in Pixlr to improve color and exposure.


It's definitely not legal, my buddy got chased by some cops there not too long ago.





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Inside a storage bunker. Refrigerators for explosives?
https://image.ibb.co/jaoZyQ/dsc_5081_edit.jpg

Lead styphnate storage in building 338A: A couple hundred pounds of sensitive primary explosive all in one room...
https://preview.ibb.co/eqOHJQ/dsc_5143_edit.jpg



Lead styphnate was preceded by mercury fulminate which was more toxic and corrosive. It was also hard on the weapons.

The refrigerators are to keep the contents at a stable temperature as opposed to air conditioning the whole room.

Generally, these place are cleaned up thoroughly of explosive materials. There are a lot "loose cannons" out there looking for explosives for whatever reason.





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I've seen and heard about this place so many times. My buds and I are planning on hitting it next week. So stoked after seeing these pics.




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