Posted by OH_ZOG_NO I have the sneaking suspicion that giving you nuclear material would be a bad idea

Too late.
Turn in dates mean nothing to me...
just a little less of a good thing

the only thing that I really wanted to see at Pripyat was all the vehicles sitting in the fields and woods rusting away. Everything else I have seen before. What's funny is that 15 years ago, who would've thought that place would become a tourist destination- one of the worst nuclear incidents in human history is now... a tourist spot?

huh.

Posted by Samurai the only thing that I really wanted to see at Pripyat was all the vehicles sitting in the fields and woods rusting away. Everything else I have seen before. What's funny is that 15 years ago, who would've thought that place would become a tourist destination- one of the worst nuclear incidents in human history is now... a tourist spot? huh.

That rust is some of the most contaminated stuff outside the reactor building.
The paint is readily transmuted into long lived highly radioactive isotopes by the gamma rays etc.
At the Bikini Islands you still can't touch the paint and scale on the test ships without serious contamination.

Mmmmm, radioactive daughters...
Not the kind you want to date.

Keep up the negativity guys.. Good job . LOL

yea it was lit

Posted by General Zod Keep up the negativity guys.. Good job . LOL

Well many of the people with first hand experience of the Chernobyl disaster are dead
It's killed robots too.
Of course the Russians know what they're doing when it comes to radiation...
you'll be fine.
Their history of safe nuclear power proves this...
oh wait, no, no it doesn't.

Proof:
https://www.rt.com...byl-nuclear-plant/

If you go, remember to bring vodka, lots of it:
https://www.wired....gold-of-chernobyl/


And Sam: Many of the vehicles used by the liquidators remain parked in a field in the Chernobyl area.

Posted by blackhawk And Sam: Many of the vehicles used by the liquidators remain parked in a field in the Chernobyl area.

I know... the Chernobyl incident has been a hobby of mine for years.
So many things went wrong at once that night, all of it going back to mismanagement, miscommunication and incompetence.

Posted by Samurai I know... the Chernobyl incident has been a hobby of mine for years. So many things went wrong at once that night, all of it going back to mismanagement, miscommunication and incompetence.

Wiki has a very detailed write up.
It's complex, interesting and a sick comedy of errors.
Note: never try to peek a look at a super critical mass that weighs a couple tons
At one point it was ionizing the air for hundreds or thousands of feet above the blown reactor.
Blue glowing air is a bad sign... run.

Here is mine complete guide for survive in Pripyat wasteland.

1. First thing you will needs to know is which creatures will be appear and what must be done to protects yourself.

a.) Wild boars. You may think your little Texas piggylets is of scary, but you have not been gaze into the eyestalks of irradiated Russian boar. If one of them is having spotted you, you will be already dead my friend. First thing you should do upon entrance to Pripyat wasteland is to rub your face in the dirt. Every inch of the place is saturate with boar piss, and this will make invisible your scent.

b.) Bears are not native to Pripyat wasteland, but you may still have encounters them due to Pripyat Mutant Petting Zoo mishap of 2009. Please do not have judgings of me for trying to make a living. They are not of dangerous unless provoke, and are capable of understand Russian language, due to sharing 99% of DNA with the Russian peoples. If you are come across bear by the name of Svetlana, please be tellings her that I am already sent child support payments and to leaves me alone.

2. Radiation and how you must protects yourself.

If you are of travel with tour guide, then this will not being of useful to you. If you are exploring correctly, then you are sure to be soon dead by outbreak of tumors and will also have many likes on UER. In order to make delay this change, you must wear foremost urban exploration radiation equipment. You will not survive unless you are becoming equipped with surgical mask, cargo shorts (you will need deep pockets for carry many cans of radiation repellent), and Air Jordan sneakers with which to bribe the radiation.

3. Snacks and hydration.

Water in Pripyat wasteland is of many challenge. Radiation is interact with all water at molecular level and will makes it transform into boar piss. While you may be of using this for maskings your scent, I is not recommending that you drinks it. Orange soda is beverage of choice in the zone.

Wild berries are in great abundance, and you may eats them with only minor of side effects. Before attempts to picking berries, be first of sure that they are not, in fact, boar eyestalks.

I want to go there and lick the elephants foot.

Posted by mookster I want to go there and lick the elephants foot.

lol... good luck with that, mookster.

I've been obsessed with the place since it happened (my relatives live nearby and They visited us soon after so I heard all about it). I'm going to visit them soon and have a Chernobyl side trip booked. Hoping to skip the boars but want To see one of the monster catfish from a distance

Posted by Samurai lol... good luck with that, mookster.

Yeah the robots tried that.
Maybe start off licking one of victim robots nearby

So it took me a bit to find this, as the original video I shared elsewhere was taken down.

Here's inspection footage from inside the sarcophagus at reactor 4. The static on the video is radiation hitting the image sensor in the camera btw.

Pretty sure the Russian dude smoking is deader than shit though, as you can hear his dosimeter squealing part way though. In spots you can see him walking next to graphite moderators, which used to hold control rods.

They are in the Elephant's Foot room later in the video as well. ~5 minutes in there will reduce your lifespan to under 2 days, and that one guy is just chain smoking away, so he was probably gone anyhow.


https://www.youtub...atch?v=NkwEfbIBnDU

Btw, for those that haven't heard of the Chernobyl Divers... (copy pasted)

The Chernobyl divers

In all of the chaos and confusion that followed the disaster there are many stories of great sacrifice and bravery, none more inspiring than that of the 3 Chernobyl divers, Valeri Bezpalov (a soldier and engineer at the plant), Alexie Ananenko (an engineer at the plant who knew where the safety valves were located) and Boris Baranov (an "ordinary" worker at the plant who offered to hold the lamp).

Ten days after the disaster a further risk immeasurably greater than the initial explosions was identified. Initially firefighters had unsuccessfully used water to try to extinguish the flames from the reactor. This contaminated water had pooled beneath the reactor core which, having had a combination of sand, clay and boron dropped on it in an attempt to smother the flames, had turned into a lava like substance. This lava was slowly burning through the floor of the reactor, and had it reached the water below would have set off a massive thermal explosion that would have had devastating consequences across most of Europe.

Valeri Bezpalov, Alexie Ananenko and Boris Baranov volunteered to use SCUBA equipment to swim through the pooled water to find and release the safety valves for the sluice gates to drain this water away. The men knew that the levels of radiation under the main reactor in the water would be lethal. All that they asked was that their families be taken care of after their deaths.

The men were successful in their mission, even though Boris's lamp failed shortly after entering the water, but not before finding the pipes that the divers then followed in the dark to the safety valves. They returned from the pool to see their colleagues and those in charge of securing the safety of the plant "jump for joy". Alexei was even able to be interviewed by the Soviet media, but gave away no sign of the dreadful radiation poisoning that all three of them had received, or the fate that awaited them.

A fortnight later two of the men had died of radiation poisoning in hospital in Moscow, and were buried in sealed lead coffins. The third man, Boris Baranov, only survived a little longer before succumbing to the inevitable end that exposure to such high levels of radiation must bring.

Months later it was established that the molten lava did indeed burn through the reactor floor. The action that these three men had taken almost certainly saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of people throughout Europe.

On the right you will see the "Memorial to the Lost Workers of Chernobyl" with Reactor No.4, covered by the concrete sarcophagus, in the background. Radiation levels around it are 5 times higher than normal and increase exponentially as you step towards the reactor.

In history there are many heroic acts performed by incredible people who despite the slim chance of survival go ahead and do what needs to be done. What is remarkable about Valeri, Alexei and Boris's action is that they knew that there was no slim chance of survival. They listened to what the engineers and scientists told them, understood the consequences, and volunteered their lives. It is an outrage that their selfless sacrifice is known by so few people, and that their courageous actions are not honoured in cities throughout both Eastern and Western Europe.

Reports of their deaths at the time may be false.

However, research by Andrew Leatherbarrow, author of the 2016 book Chernobyl 01:23:40, determined that the frequently recounted story is a gross exaggeration. Alexei Ananenko continues to work in the nuclear energy industry, and rebuffs the growth of the Chernobyl mediasensationalism surrounding him.[92] While Valeri Bezpalov was found to still be alive by Leatherbarrow, the elderly 65 year old Baranov had lived until 2005 and had died of heart failure.[93]

Posted by blackhawk Reports of their deaths at the time may be false. However, research by Andrew Leatherbarrow, author of the 2016 book Chernobyl 01:23:40, determined that the frequently recounted story is a gross exaggeration. Alexei Ananenko continues to work in the nuclear energy industry, and rebuffs the growth of the Chernobyl mediasensationalism surrounding him.[92] While Valeri Bezpalov was found to still be alive by Leatherbarrow, the elderly 65 year old Baranov had lived until 2005 and had died of heart failure.[93]

this book had some sensationalistic parts, but got the timeline right.

I used to think about Chernobyl sitting right next to a powerhouse at work... a couple of wrong moves on the off shift and either the power or recovery boiler was heading for orbit.

The Soviet Union tried to keep this quiet in the opening hours of the incident, but from what I read, the radiation bloom picked up by satellites was like someone had set off an atomic device! There was no way to cover it up. And then, when the fallout began to spread. I have purchased militaria from the Ukraine and sometimes wonder how much radioactive stuff it's been exposed to since some of it dates back to the mid-1980's (manufacturer date on the inside of the helmets).

Posted by Samurai this book had some sensationalistic parts, but got the timeline right. I used to think about Chernobyl sitting right next to a powerhouse at work... a couple of wrong moves on the off shift and either the power or recovery boiler was heading for orbit. The Soviet Union tried to keep this quiet in the opening hours of the incident, but from what I read, the radiation bloom picked up by satellites was like someone had set off an atomic device! There was no way to cover it up. And then, when the fallout began to spread. I have purchased militaria from the Ukraine and sometimes wonder how much radioactive stuff it's been exposed to since some of it dates back to the mid-1980's (manufacturer date on the inside of the helmets).

A air burst nuke would have been far cleaner and had less fallout.
The Soviets really fucked up incredibly bad. Literally tons of fallout in very fine particulate form. The ionizing radiation was so intense it visibly ionized the air above the blown reactor for thousands of feet that night.
Pure death.

The really funny part is the fallout went straight for the EU countries.
They're all worried about lead in their electronics, EM emissions, Rx for vitamins and their environment, etc, etc.
Have some good old fashion lingering mixed isotope fallout bitches...
Proof god hates them

The helmets are probably fine unless they were worn by liquidators...

Posted by blackhawk A air burst nuke would have been far cleaner and had less fallout. The Soviets really fucked up incredibly bad. Literally tons of fallout in very fine particulate form. The ionizing radiation was so intense it visibly ionized the air above the blown reactor for thousands of feet that night. Pure death. The really funny part is the fallout went straight for the EU countries. They're all worried about lead in their electronics, EM emissions, Rx for vitamins and their environment, etc, etc. Have some good old fashion lingering mixed isotope fallout bitches... Proof god hates them The helmets are probably fine unless they were worn by liquidators...

why are you such a hateful person? What ails you?
this, and to a certain extent, Three Mile Island, were the end of the golden age of nuclear power.
What I find interesting is that even though the RMBK-1000 reactor proved to have really stringent operating requirements, Russia continues to operate several of the upgraded reactors, all slated to be taken offline between 2019 and 2035.

In 2000, I lived less than 3 miles from Watts Bar Nuclear One... I drove by the plant on my way to and from work every day on TN 68. In the other direction, I lived less than 30 miles from Sequoyah in Soddy-Daisy TN, right on US 27. There were blue evacuation route signs everywhere... I never really paid them any mind back then... but now, as I am older, the question of 'what if...?' looms when I am bored.
https://en.wikiped...Generating_Station
https://en.wikiped...Generating_Station

I lived in nearby Evensville TN which is more or less a 'suburb' of Dayton.

Posted by Samurai this, and to a certain extent, Three Mile Island, were the end of the golden age of nuclear power.

I tend to disagree - nowadays we require more nuclear power, not less. It's more important than ever to secure our energy requirements for the future. Not only that, modern nuclear power is extremely safe, and clean as well in comparison to traditional fossil fuel plants.

Governments can continue to subsidise worse than useless wind turbines and expensive and costly solar power all they want but the energy production for the future needs to be focused on the nuclear option. Reactors and power plants have come a long way since 1986, the Chernobyl reactor wasn't constructed to stringent safety standards like all the new ones must be.