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UER Forum > UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Tick Sick 101 (Viewed 1787 times)
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Re: Tick Sick 101
< Reply # 20 on 8/17/2017 2:29 AM >
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Golly, I guess everyone I know was just really lucky then.


Nothing wrong with that. My one next door neighbor kicked it in 2 or so weeks.
The rest I know weren't as lucky... it's not predictable.

Worse if you DNA code has a particular trait it can trigger an autoimmune disease of the joints which continues even after the bacteria are eradicated.
The protein markers the Lyme bacteria leave on cartilage remain long after the bacteria are gone.
The immune system of some people mistake it for an active infection, attack, triggering swelling and potential for joint damage. This can persists for years but tends to abate in 8-11 years.

Unlike most pathogenic bacteria that are iron lovers, Lyme finds manganese very tasty. There's a lot of manganese in cartilage, thus the reason it tends to attack joints if not treated promptly.
Since its possible for it to disseminate rapidly into the body with some people even prompt treatment may not be fast enough.

You heard early stories of people who to spite massive doses of IV antibiotics, given multiple times still being infected. This was not the case; most were victims of the autoimmune disease described above. Many antibiotics also have anti-inflammatory properties so to them while being treated it seemed to help.

It's possible in some people that it maybe impossible to eradicate Lyme. In the end antibiotics only help the body to destroy the invaders. If for any reason the immune system fails to mop up what's left... it can happen with any bacterial infection. If your that person, life just got a lot harder.

A month of oral Doxycycline didn't stop it with me so we switched to erythromycin for a month. After that would have been the IV antibiotics. The erythromycin therapy worked. Took a few months with no relapse to fully realize it. It's not as clean cut as one might think.
When you are sick for more than 5 weeks with an infection one tends to get concerned....
I was lucky it stopped there.

With Lyme it's always a crap shoot.
One of the things that make it scary.
You don't want any one of these tick borne infections because once infected many things can go wrong...
Prevention is the best cure.




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Nothing wrong with that. My one next door neighbor kicked it in 2 or so weeks.
The rest I know weren't as lucky... it's not predictable.


Talk about lucky... believe it or not, I even had a dog who got Lyme, kicked it with antibiotics, and lived to be 16. Usually with dogs it's a done deal.




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Talk about lucky... believe it or not, I even had a dog who got Lyme, kicked it with antibiotics, and lived to be 16. Usually with dogs it's a done deal.


Compared to Syphilis the Lyme spirochete bacteria is less dangerous.
In time many healthy people's immune system would eradicate Lyme. That's not to say that many would not suffer permanent damage even death from it's complications. Some would never eradicate it just like Syphilis.
Both bacteria share similar patterns and stages. Both wuv to bore into tissues of all types including the brain. Lyme however wuvs joint cartilage; a good hiding place.

As for canines I know of at least one other dog that beat it. Absorption issues with the antibiotic just as in humans may make some cases harder to treat. As well as the stage the disease is in. In the last stage it becomes much harder to treat. It may also trigger autoimmune diseases just as in humans; not sure about that though.

Anytime you have a bacteria infection it can go wrong to spite all efforts. This is rare in healthy people but it can and does happen. That's the really scary part too, because until you -know- it's eradicated, you don't know if you'll survive intact or at all. Not a good feeling...





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Yet another tick borne disease, rare but found in Canada and western US states.
It's a nasty one.

Relapsing fever borreliosis
https://en.m.wikip..._fever_borreliosis




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heres one more to keep you on the look out for little blood suckers:
https://www.wired....s-may-be-spreading




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heres one more to keep you on the look out for little blood suckers:
https://www.wired....s-may-be-spreading


I mention that little charmer on post #8.
As of now it only applies to the lone star tick; the curse of Texans.
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Remember it's possible to be infected with multiple diseases from one tick. Some them are deadly if not treated promptly and properly.
Most are nasty buggers you don't want to learn about the hard way.
Here's the latest list from the CDC:

In the United States, some ticks carry pathogens that can cause human disease, including:

●Anaplasmosis is transmitted to humans by tick bites primarily from the blacklegged tick (Ixodes scapularis) in the northeastern and upper midwestern U.S. and the western blacklegged tick (Ixodes pacificus) along the Pacific coast.

●Babesiosis is caused by microscopic parasites that infect red blood cells. Most human cases of babesiosis in the U.S. are caused by Babesia microtiBabesia microti is transmitted by the blacklegged tick (Ixodes scapularis) and is found primarily in the northeast and upper midwest.

●Borrelia mayonii infection has recently been described as a cause of illness in the upper midwestern United States. It has been found in blacklegged ticks (Ixodes scapularis) in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Borrelia mayonii is a new species and is the only species besides B. burgdorferi known to cause Lyme disease in North America.Borrelia miyamotoi infection has recently been described as a cause of illness in the U.S. It is transmitted by the blacklegged tick (Ixodes scapularis) and has a range similar to that of Lyme disease.

●Bourbon virus infection has been identified in a limited number patients in the Midwest and southern United States. At this time, we do not know if the virus might be found in other areas of the United States.Colorado tick fever is caused by a virus transmitted by the Rocky Mountain wood tick (Dermacentor andersoni). It occurs in the the Rocky Mountain states at elevations of 4,000 to 10,500 feet.

●Ehrlichiosis is transmitted to humans by the lone star tick (Ambylomma americanum), found primarily in the southcentral and eastern U.S.Heartland virus cases have been identified in the Midwestern and southern United States. Studies suggest that Lone Star ticks can transmit the virus. It is unknown if the virus may be found in other areas of the U.S.Lyme disease is transmitted by the blacklegged tick (Ixodes scapularis) in the northeastern U.S. and upper midwestern U.S. and the western blacklegged tick (Ixodes pacificus) along the Pacific coast.

●Powassan disease is transmitted by the blacklegged tick (Ixodes scapularis) and the groundhog tick (Ixodes cookei). Cases have been reported primarily from northeastern states and the Great Lakes region.

●Rickettsia parkeri rickettsiosis is transmitted to humans by the Gulf Coast tick (Amblyomma maculatumRocky Mountain spotted fever (RMSF) is transmitted by the American dog tick (Dermacentor variabilis), Rocky Mountain wood tick (Dermacentor andersoni), and the brown dog tick (Rhipicephalus sangunineus) in the U.S. The brown dog tick and other tick species are associated with RMSF in Central and South America.

●STARI (Southern tick-associated rash illness) is transmitted via bites from the lone star tick (Ambylomma americanum), found in the southeastern and eastern U.S.

●Tickborne relapsing fever (TBRF) is transmitted to humans through the bite of infected soft ticks. TBRF has been reported in 15 states: Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming and is associated with sleeping in rustic cabins and vacation homes.

●Tularemia is transmitted to humans by the dog tick (Dermacentor variabilis), the wood tick (Dermacentor andersoni), and the lone star tick (Amblyomma americanum364D rickettsiosis (Rickettsia phillipi, proposed) is transmitted to humans by the Pacific Coast tick (Dermacentor occidentalis ticks). This is a new disease that has been found in California.

For full hyperlinks for each disease go to the CDC website:
https://www.cdc.go...iseases/index.html



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