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Critique Please!
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Hey, new to photography and looking for some critique/pointers. Thanks. PS. sorry for bad quality, it's just from resizing them to be the right size to fit in the forum.
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Re: Critique Please!
< Reply # 1 on 3/27/2017 8:14 PM >
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Not bad, I like the gameboy color look. :p Especially #3.



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< Reply # 2 on 3/28/2017 1:59 AM >
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Haha thanks. That's just from decreasing the file size though.




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< Reply # 3 on 3/28/2017 2:23 AM >
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1 and 2 are weak, not much of a subject and the composition sucks.
At least try to jazz it up by giving it an unique prospective like shooting level with the rail, and have at least one rail in the corner of the frame.
& headless models don't cut it...

3, is the model suppose to be the focal point?
Make look like it and put her up front.

4 That's better Remember you can shot from any height, lose the eye level shooting unless it shows the subject at its best.

5 Not a keeper, but you knew that. I hope so...
Read up on basic photo composition. 2/3s rule, and how to manage lines.
Unless you're shooting photos for insurance purposes, how you frame a shot matters. It's up to you to find a position that works in a 2D image and gives it pop.




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< Reply # 4 on 3/28/2017 4:04 PM >
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Ok, thanks! I'll use that in the future to try and improve my stuff.




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Re: Critique Please!
< Reply # 5 on 3/30/2017 11:24 PM >
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Please [please] use Flickr or Imgur or something to post! That 2-bit look isn't flattering for photos.. lol.




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I agree with flySparro, Imgur is a very helpful sight to resize your images without losing the quality of your work and it gives you several options of coding for adding to blogs, forums, etc. if ever needed. I would REALLY love to see #4 in it's original form because it does look like a gorgeous shot. I agree DEFINITELY with blackhawk to use more creativity with your shots and DON'T be afraid to grab your own perspectives, and imagination! Nothing can go wrong in art towards creativity unless you don't put the effort into it, or if the quality is bad, BUT you have stated it's just due to resizing. I'm really looking forward to seeing what more you have to offer! Keep it up!

I also want to point out that you are very polite and open-minded to communication within the forum which is great, especially with blackhawk's 'savagery,' <--- only saying that cause DAMN it was critical, but very good advice blackhawk not saying to change anything !




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< Reply # 8 on 2/1/2018 7:23 AM >
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A few things to consider:

1. Properly resizing a photo doesn't make it look 16-bit. Perhaps try Photoshop.

2. What format are you shooting? If you're not shooting RAW, I'd highly suggest it.

3. JUST A PERSONAL PREFERENCE: Unless you're doing a model shoot, keep people out of the equation for UE photography. It's about the place, the soul of the place, details of the place. Not people IN the place.

4. Use the light to your advantage; bump that shutter up for outdoor shots like this to at least 800. It'll allow a better contrast.

5. KEEP FUCKING GOING. Don't get discouraged and give up. I'm a self-taught photographer, and BELIEVE ME, I've gone through more places and have come out with HORRIBLE pictures than I care to admit. Today? People have my urbex photography in their offices, homes, and galleries. I'm not saying that to brag at all, I'm simply letting you KNOW that NO ONE starts with great shots.

6. ALWAYS find a horizon line when you're editing the image. The image I'm attaching has an odd angle, but the corner of the room is perfectly in balance. A lot of tripods have ways of helping with this, if your camera doesn't. I still crop it in post to make sure.

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Re: Critique Please!
< Reply # 9 on 2/1/2018 7:40 AM >
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6. ALWAYS find a horizon line when you're editing the image. The image I'm attaching has an odd angle, but the corner of the room is perfectly in balance. A lot of tripods have ways of helping with this, if your camera doesn't. I still crop it in post to make sure.



Quick note, one aligned corner does not a level photo make.

There's a keystone effect caused by the camera looking upward (it appears you crouched to take the image and tilted up to get a sense of the room).

Vertical lines close to the left or right edges of the frame bend toward the outside of the frame as you look upward from horizontal. In this case, you have two choices:
  • Level the vertical of the window frame nearly in the center of the photo — being in the center, you can rest assured it is not affected by keystone distortion
  • If you did not have that window, balance the two most prominent verticals (the corners) taking into account how close they are to the edge of the frame. The two corners in this shot actually both look slanted to the left.. which makes me question why you said it was perfectly in balance.. haha

For the record, I'm not self-taught. In this situation, your example of leveling your horizon missed the mark.

In this shot, there is no horizon, and the far L+R trees are showing the same keystone I mentioned, so you have to balance it and look at the trees in the middle of the frame to try and find some semblance of level.

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Re your #3; I feel subjects can, in some cases, enhance the photo.

Otherwise decent advice. I don't think anyone has my work in their office, though one day at work I was 2ft from Russian President Vladimir Putin. So it's a give and take I guess.




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Re: Critique Please!
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Quick note, one aligned corner does not a level photo make.

There's a keystone effect caused by the camera looking upward (it appears you crouched to take the image and tilted up to get a sense of the room).

Vertical lines close to the left or right edges of the frame bend toward the outside of the frame as you look upward from horizontal. In this case, you have two choices:
  • Level the vertical of the window frame nearly in the center of the photo — being in the center, you can rest assured it is not affected by keystone distortion
  • If you did not have that window, balance the two most prominent verticals (the corners) taking into account how close they are to the edge of the frame. The two corners in this shot actually both look slanted to the left.. which makes me question why you said it was perfectly in balance.. haha

For the record, I'm not self-taught. In this situation, your example of leveling your horizon missed the mark.

In this shot, there is no horizon, and the far L+R trees are showing the same keystone I mentioned, so you have to balance it and look at the trees in the middle of the frame to try and find some semblance of level.

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Re your #3; I feel subjects can, in some cases, enhance the photo.

Otherwise decent advice. I don't think anyone has my work in their office, though one day at work I was 2ft from Russian President Vladimir Putin. So it's a give and take I guess.



Duly noted, and much appreciated. Still learning!




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< Reply # 11 on 2/2/2018 7:32 AM >
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Duly noted, and much appreciated. Still learning!

Me too, friend! Me too.

I'm stoked that you didn't take offence to my pretty ruthless evaluation of what is / what appears level... haha. ;) +1 like for you.




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6. ALWAYS find a horizon line when you're editing the image. The image I'm attaching has an odd angle, but the corner of the room is perfectly in balance. A lot of tripods have ways of helping with this, if your camera doesn't. I still crop it in post to make sure.

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Not sure if you meant when framing as opposed to post editing a shot.
If the image isn't square off when it's shot, no amount of cropping can restore it.
Unless you are shooting a shot for artist effect/impact, most shots are best squared off.

To do that the dead center of the lense needs to be at the same height as the optical center of where it is pointed.
That establishes the level sight line needed to square off a shot.
After that make sure at least the closest side/true vertical line to the viewfinder is parallel to that side of the viewfinder. It's preferable to do it on both right and left sides if possible to truly square it off.

This is a fairly well squared off shot. Notice the true vertical lines of the cross are running parallel to the right and left sides of the frame.





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Not sure if you meant when framing as opposed to post editing a shot.
If the image isn't square off when it's shot, no amount of cropping can restore it.
Unless you are shooting a shot for artist effect/impact, most shots are best squared off.

Yeah documentary style shots start to fall down when they’re canted or showing weird perspective lines, haha.

Shooting with wide lenses frequently (14mm) I do a lot of tilting to reveal things above/below, so straight vertical lines aren’t as practical or even achievable as they would be on a ‘normal’ lens (35-50mm or longer)




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Yeah documentary style shots start to fall down when they’re canted or showing weird perspective lines, haha.


The human visual cortex is funny on how it processes a 2D vs a 3D image. You automatically compensate when viewing a 3D images regardless of the viewing angle(s). This is part hard wired and a lot of it is learned over the many years of seeing the world around you.
The brain isn't as forgiving with 2D images.
Shots that aren't square off are harder for the brain to process and view.
Making people strain to see what you saw with a poorly framed image tends to make them want to avoid it.
It -should- click right into place and draw you in.


Shooting with wide lenses frequently (14mm) I do a lot of tilting to reveal things above/below, so straight vertical lines aren’t as practical or even achievable as they would be on a ‘normal’ lens (35-50mm or longer)


With wide angle lens same rules apply.
It's more about lining it up on the viewfinder; you compensate for barrel distortion by lining up the curved cam view vertical lines as true to vertical as possible.
During post processing you can edit the distortion out if you wish. If you framed it right, it should be near spot on.

If you make it a habit to square off shots it becomes second nature to do like grabbing an AF lock on point or focusing.
Become self aware whenever you point a cam up or down rather than adjusting the cam height to dial it in.

Avoid always shooting at the same cam height; the cam height should fit the subject and add impact to the shot.




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Me too, friend! Me too.

I'm stoked that you didn't take offence to my pretty ruthless evaluation of what is / what appears level... haha. ;) +1 like for you.


It's pretty funny seeing people get butt-hurt here, not only when they're ASKING for critiques, but even when they're not. As I said, I was never taught ANYTHING about photography. I started because my ex-wife was a psycho and thought she'd tell a really wealthy client of hers that I was a f*cking wedding photographer! Rather than letting her drown, I went out and got a Rebel T6 because it was cheap, and did the best I could... Worst wedding pictures in the history of ever... BUT, after the divorce, I took up the old hobby of abandoned buildings and took the camera along.
I've had way too much caffeine... Sorry I'm typing so much...
THE POINT I'm racing to make is that brutal honesty is the best, in my humble opinion. Unfortunately, not many have the open mind to accept it and put it to use. Because I'm so new to this community, I'm biting my tongue A LOT in other posts. I don't know if I'm allowed to be blatantly honest and up front with other noobs? Maybe I should read about that in the forum.
Seriously, because of what you said above, AND what blackhawk had noted in my other post, I THINK I took some GREAT shots today. I'll have to make a "before and after ACCEPTING criticism" post with pics to prove it.




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It's pretty funny seeing people get butt-hurt here, not only when they're ASKING for critiques, but even when they're not. As I said, I was never taught ANYTHING about photography. I started because my ex-wife was a psycho and thought she'd tell a really wealthy client of hers that I was a f*cking wedding photographer! Rather than letting her drown, I went out and got a Rebel T6 because it was cheap, and did the best I could... Worst wedding pictures in the history of ever... BUT, after the divorce, I took up the old hobby of abandoned buildings and took the camera along.
I've had way too much caffeine... Sorry I'm typing so much...
THE POINT I'm racing to make is that brutal honesty is the best, in my humble opinion. Unfortunately, not many have the open mind to accept it and put it to use. Because I'm so new to this community, I'm biting my tongue A LOT in other posts. I don't know if I'm allowed to be blatantly honest and up front with other noobs? Maybe I should read about that in the forum.
Seriously, because of what you said above, AND what blackhawk had noted in my other post, I THINK I took some GREAT shots today. I'll have to make a "before and after ACCEPTING criticism" post with pics to prove it.


Hahaha. Less talk more photos - let's see the goodies

Re: giving other noobs a hard time, eh, you won't make a lot of friends. You gotta hold off on like 4/5 times you want to say something snappy and only post the good ones. lol




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