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Re: Found homemade porn ethics
< Reply # 20 on 2/6/2017 4:46 AM >
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Body painting is not porn.

Based on your description of your photographs, the example you linked to, and the fact that they were for a public event 15 years ago, I doubt I'd have a problem with them. That they caused such an uproar makes me wonder what I'm missing.




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< Reply # 21 on 2/6/2017 5:18 AM >
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As I said, the pictures I got are not the picture, they are part of the picture. In many cases they're stacks of pictures that come together in a collage kind of way. Though at the end of the day, copyright is not the issue at the heart of the matter.



After seeing them copyright infringement would be my only concern by posting them.
Even then, the worst that would probably happened is the webmaster be asked to take them down.
So... what's the big deal?
However I'm not in Korea. I have no idea how they would react; don't understand that culture very well.

The nude Polaroids we use to find when picking trash was more fun... some houses you just wuv to take out their trash.
If you have the only copy how can it be infringement?
Be careful what you throw out...




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< Reply # 22 on 2/6/2017 6:41 AM >
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If you have the only copy how can it be infringement?


Just having the original in your hands doesn't mean you have all rights to it.

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Re: Found homemade porn ethics
< Reply # 23 on 2/6/2017 6:57 AM >
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Body painting is not porn.

Based on your description of your photographs, the example you linked to, and the fact that they were for a public event 15 years ago, I doubt I'd have a problem with them. That they caused such an uproar makes me wonder what I'm missing.



I agree with this. If it was actual homemade porn, that would be a very different thing, but bodypainting is not porn at all. I don't see any ethical issue with posting them, since body painting is not something that is done with the intention of it being private or secretive (as homemade porn often is). As for legal / copywrite issues, I don't know the real answers to that, but I'd say the chances of anything actually coming of that are incredibly slim.




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Re: Found homemade porn ethics
< Reply # 24 on 2/7/2017 2:06 AM >
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Interesting point about it not being porn, and the pictures don't seem like what I would call regular porn, but the fact that you can see breasts and pubic hair in many, labia in some, means that I think it would be classified as pornographic in Korea.




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< Reply # 25 on 2/9/2017 6:45 AM >
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There are plenty of legal yet downright unethical things you can do.




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< Reply # 26 on 2/9/2017 4:18 PM >
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We found what appears to be the former home of a body makeup artist who left behind a lot of pictures of himself painting womens bodies for what looked like some kind of official event, ca 2002


I do not see there to be an issue with copyright. The photos do not sound as if they were anything more than snapshots of the preparation of the event. They do not sound to me like they are, would be, or should be considered works of art.

That is my legal opinion. And you can trust it, my sister's, best friend, has a roommate that was a secretary for a lawyer one time.


Ethically is a totally different story. You might no feel legal ramifications. But, myself at least, would have a much heavier burden of the morality of sharing the photos.

My struggle would have been to leave them or to take them and destroy them to prevent them from possibly affecting someone who might not want the photos out and about.

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One possible route to take here is to donate them to a local museum. Sometimes cities and towns have little local museums that are super interested in having little artifacts like this to have a cultural record.

A museum would likely has a lot more resources to track down whomever is in the pictures and/or whomever took the pictures. It also removes the ethical burden from your hands, as well as preserves some potential art (Also it makes you like Indiana Jones so that's a win). Best case scenario the museum finds the owners. Worst case scenario they get put into storage until everyone is reasonably sure that anyone who could be embarrassed is dead, and no longer capable of embarrassment.



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I do not see there to be an issue with copyright. The photos do not sound as if they were anything more than snapshots of the preparation of the event. They do not sound to me like they are, would be, or should be considered works of art.

That is my legal opinion. And you can trust it, my sister's, best friend, has a roommate that was a secretary for a lawyer one time.


Ethically is a totally different story. You might no feel legal ramifications. But, myself at least, would have a much heavier burden of the morality of sharing the photos.

My struggle would have been to leave them or to take them and destroy them to prevent them from possibly affecting someone who might not want the photos out and about.

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I feel like if they weren't meant for art then they're someone's personal private photos and still shouldn't be distributed/shared. You either treat them the same as professional photos and have a copyright issue or you treat them as personal, private photos and still don't share them. But that's just my point of view.




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And you can trust it, my sister's, best friend, has a roommate that was a secretary for a lawyer one time.


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That is my legal opinion. And you can trust it, my sister's, best friend, has a roommate that was a secretary for a lawyer one time.




And I submit your honor that this is the next best thing to being a lawyer !






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And I submit your honor that this is the next best thing to being a lawyer !





Yes, well... I'll represent myself!*






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Yes, well... I'll represent myself!*






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Just be sure you don't have a fool for a client then haha! (sorry couldn't resist)



Just to keep it relevant, Im not a copyright lawyer but I would argue that somebody failed to secure the said anonymous bush photos by discarding them, and from which they had no intent to derive any monetary compensation so Id post away i.e. make with the bushy bush pics Steed! Your screen name will protect you my sister's boyfriends uncle told me its Ok he lives next door to a copyright attorney's clerk...




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Yes, well... I'll represent myself!*



Maybe you can convince an actual lawyer to do it pro bono. Tell them that it'll be good...


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They left them. Like trash. Maybe edit/crop out faces and identifying marks like tattoos or scars, but... the photog did in fact leave them for what ever reason. Game on.




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There's so much free porn out there that even a pile of 10,000 pics amounts to a fart in a hurricane.

Scan and upload to imagefap.com

Omagefap is pretty good at responding to requests to remove content. If there's objections by anyone, they can take it up with Imagefap.

On a related note...

I have found some homemade porn on the hard drives of discarded computers. I didn't find it very interesting and just formatted the drives.




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