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| | | P.O.E. < on 8/22/2016 11:14 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | need y'all advice on p.o.e. (dear moderators, i searched for another thread titled 'point of entry' and one titled 'p.o.e.' but did not find either.)
i've been scoping a specific site and have found a number of points of entry, but am not sure which is best.
- i am going with a friend - we aim to go at dawn, on a saturday, so we hope many will still be asleep - the premises are a block - the premises are secured by fence - most of the fence has barbed wire across the top, but not all (see below) - there are sporadic 'no trespassing' signs, but they are few and far between - i have not seen cameras, but have not specifically looked for them either - every now and again i see cops perched at a specific spot looking for speeders, but neither of my poe's are visible from this spot
here are my options... 1) slide under a gap in the fence - the gap seems big enough if my friend and i hold it up for each other, but it may be a little tight 2) at this point ^ the barbed wire is cut for about 10' of length, so climbing the fence is an option too 1 & 2) are the closest of the three options to a building to hide behind 3) there is a gate that is not locked that leads down a path, but our visibility would be for a greater length of time (although I like knowing there are two ways out)
also, i cannot see any building p.o.e.'s from the perimeter and google isn't too much help on that front either, although with google, i do see a few hidden buildings. there is graffiti at the top of one building and there is a staircase on the outside of this building, so roof access is definite.
i like to be as prepared as possible and am still a newbie, so any reflections / ideas would be greatly appreciated. -thx
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| | | Re: P.O.E. < Reply # 6 on 8/23/2016 3:57 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by blackhawk Scout it again. Does it have power? If it has power it increases the risk of active cams and alarms. ... Truly abandoned buildings don't have power...
| i'm almost 1000% certain it does not, but i will take another scouting trip at night to double check Posted by blackhawk Go predawn and once inside wait for dawn. Bonus golden 15 minutes of the sun rising for shots.
| a total bonus and goal Posted by blackhawk If you go under, don't get hung up on the chain link, dig it out a bit.
| i'm def going to go under or over the short fence / through the gate. based on what y'all have said, why climb and risk climbing when there are two better options? the fence to crawl under seems easy enough and big enough to safely crawl under if we hold it for each other and wear protective clothing. there shouldn't bee too much digging out needed, but there is a little. Posted by blackhawk Once inside check building outsides and insides for cams and motion sensors. If they are powered it likely is an active system. Check doors and windows for alarm switches. Verify the electric is off for the complex if possible. Off is a good sign. Meter(s) pulled or high voltage at the primary transformers(s) disconnected or their breakers dangling there or at the pole. You should look for this when scouting.
| all verrrrry helpful. y'all are great!
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| | | | Re: P.O.E. < Reply # 7 on 8/23/2016 6:26 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by deals
i'm almost 1000% certain it does not, but i will take another scouting trip at night to double check
| You only see the cam's they want you to see. Smart cam networks (I doubt this has one) are redundant, and the cam's can be almost undetectable especially at a distance. Their area of surveillance can be thousands of yards, typically 10-500 feet. They are truly smart as they monitor specific zones, can monitor for specific activities, vehicles, license tags,even persons. They can actively "learn" as they acquire data including matching returning vehicles/people to the area and indexing it with an alert on the more sophisticated systems. Smart cams are always fixed, and may not seem like a big deal except there will be overlapping coverage by other other cams with movement in their zones intelligently being tracked by computer. These can be very formidable systems... I hate them. Fortunately they are pricey and generally found in high dollar active facilities and public places like airports. Some cities use them as well. Posted by deals i'm def going to go under or over the short fence / through the gate. based on what y'all have said, why climb and risk climbing when there are two better options? the fence to crawl under seems easy enough and big enough to safely crawl under if we hold it for each other and wear protective clothing. there shouldn't bee too much digging out needed, but there is a little.
| Unless it's a good sized hole, I go over; it's easier for me. Breaching a straight line of fence where there's a tree or telephone pole next to the fence pole can make for a easier and safer climb. Look for the easiest ways in. Digging requires tools and could result in additional charges if caught. The hole is a visible sign of a breach. Digging can get tough fast if you hit roots, concrete, rocks, etc.
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| | | Re: P.O.E. < Reply # 15 on 8/27/2016 8:44 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | so... i went under the fence and it was soooo easy! the gap was actually pretty big and the fence easy enough to lift so that no scraping/cutting occurred. it was helpful though to wear tennies, blue jeans, and a long sleeve shirt. while perhaps common sense, all of the guidance above helped a lot. i see the addiction of ue! gawd it is such a rush! all was cleaned out, but the site was a handful of structures, including bunkers, that were each cool in their own right. a few pics from the site... 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.
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