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Lead Poisoning
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Yesterday I was exploring a vacant build after construction hours that was in the process of being demolished, I know not the smartest idea. While inside I saw a sign that read: CAUTION LEAD HAZARD. Am I in any danger? I soon exited the building after seeing that sign and wasn't inside for more than an hour. Thanks




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Re: Lead Poisoning
< Reply # 1 on 7/29/2016 5:41 AM >
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No, you're good. As long as you weren't licking anything there! You weren't, were you?

Lead is really only dangerous if ingested. Only 30-40 years ago, they used to make tons of everyday items out of lead. Everyone touched it with bare skin all the time, and the vast majority of those people will never have any effects from it. Just walking around a building like that, you probably didn't even touch it with bare skin, let alone ingest it.

And there's nothing wrong with exploring an active demolition site! I've done it myself many times - they can be incredibly beautiful in their own unique way!




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Re: Lead Poisoning
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Lead also certainly has averse effects when breathed in, like the lead that used to be in car fumes, but there's no way lead in paint and such could be aerosolized in that way.




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Re: Lead Poisoning
< Reply # 3 on 7/29/2016 12:46 PM >
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Lead also certainly has averse effects when breathed in, like the lead that used to be in car fumes, but there's no way lead in paint and such could be aerosolized in that way.


Guessing you've ever been to an indoor shooting range?

nothing like shoving a non-jacketed lead slug through a hot rifled barrel at 1800fps to aerosolize you some lead, sweet tasting lead mmm...

most ranges couldn't pass state and local EPA safe levels so theyve had to install massive exhaust systems and filters in recent years




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Re: Lead Poisoning
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That and lead paint when flaking off creates dust that contains lead.




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Re: Lead Poisoning
< Reply # 5 on 7/29/2016 3:41 PM >
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No, you're good. As long as you weren't licking anything there! You weren't, were you?

Lead is really only dangerous if ingested. Only 30-40 years ago, they used to make tons of everyday items out of lead. Everyone touched it with bare skin all the time, and the vast majority of those people will never have any effects from it. Just walking around a building like that, you probably didn't even touch it with bare skin, let alone ingest it.

And there's nothing wrong with exploring an active demolition site! I've done it myself many times - they can be incredibly beautiful in their own unique way!


Spot on.
You have to ingest a lot of lead based paint to get lead poisoning. I mean a lot.

I worked with marine grade lead based paint which had much more lead in it. We got covered in it, ate lunch without washing our hands on the bridge. No one ever showed elevated lead levels on blood tests even after 3 months of it.

When you dry sand lead base paint it has an almond like odor; easy as hell to ID. You need many nose fulls of that dust to get lead poisoning. Days/weeks worth. A couple breathes of it won't do anything.
I've worked with lead based solders for over 25 years, know people who heated their coffee cups up with soldering irons for years. No lead poisoning.

The biggest hazard with lead is heating it up above 1150 F; it will emit lead dioxide fumes. Lead metal fume fever ain't pretty.
Instant lead poisoning...


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Guessing you've ever been to an indoor shooting range?

nothing like shoving a non-jacketed lead slug through a hot rifled barrel at 1800fps to aerosolize you some lead, sweet tasting lead mmm...

most ranges couldn't pass state and local EPA safe levels so theyve had to install massive exhaust systems and filters in recent years


This is a valid concern. Concentrations can be high and repeated exposures compound the insult.
Prenatal babies and children are especially vulnerable to lead poisoning and it's damage.



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Even if OP did get some lead exposure is it really that bad? It was an acute exposure and I thought the danger was with long exposures to low doses as there is no danger before a certain PPM.




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Even if OP did get some lead exposure is it really that bad? It was an acute exposure and I thought the danger was with long exposures to low doses as there is no danger before a certain PPM.


He's in no danger simply because it's not easy to ingest enough unless you do something stupid. Like eat it, burn it, turn it into a fine dust and inhale...
Lead poisoning is serious either way; it's highly poisonous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead



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great info1 I have always questioned this as well.. what about asbestos? - is there a forum I can read about? can someone point me in the right direction thanks!




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great info1 I have always questioned this as well.. what about asbestos? - is there a forum I can read about? can someone point me in the right direction thanks!


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Re: Lead Poisoning
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Like the other guys are saying, unless you were licking stuff or touching everything then poking your fingers in your mouth, you are fine. Heavy metal poisoning is a cumulative thing.

The only really bad one is lead acetate, but if that gets spilled it gets cleaned up fast as it's considered a serious hazmat. Oddly enough, it is a huge part of Grecian Formula for Men, go figure. Call it toxic on one hand, then say it's okay for cosmetics in the other. Thanks FDA *facepalm*



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