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Here's a link, they come out grainy here

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The first one is really awesome. As for the second, pretty much the same problems as the last thread. Use a lower ISO and longer exposure to get the same shot without grain. It also needs to be straightened. You can do this in Photoshop (and likely most other photo editors), and I believe even flickr has a tool for that.

I'll say again though, great job on Stairs.



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The first one is really awesome. As for the second, pretty much the same problems as the last thread. Use a lower ISO and longer exposure to get the same shot without grain. It also needs to be straightened. You can do this in Photoshop (and likely most other photo editors), and I believe even flickr has a tool for that.

I'll say again though, great job on Stairs.


Thanks, I took all these a few hours ago, before reading the responses. Stairs was tricky to get, the staircase was narrow and I don't have a wide lens



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The first one is really awesome. As for the second, pretty much the same problems as the last thread. Use a lower ISO and longer exposure to get the same shot without grain. It also needs to be straightened. You can do this in Photoshop (and likely most other photo editors), and I believe even flickr has a tool for that.

I'll say again though, great job on Stairs.


Using straighten tools will degrade the image. Always line up and square off the shot where applicable. Not doing so is one of the best ways to destroy what would have been a keeper.
Pro cam view finders are bigger and brighter. They make it easier. Using the cam's LCD might be easier.

First dial in your aperture setting, then exposure and adjust the ISO setting if needed. The correct exposure setting (shutter speed) is critical to capturing good images. I prefer using full manual and if I have the time. It's also a good way to learn more about your cam and digital photography.

Note the center of the lense height and the center where it is shooting. They need to be the same to square off a shot. Next line up the vertical edge closest to the cam, preferably on both sides if shooting flush head on. Get in the habit of doing this and it will become natural and take little effort. Find your AF point, lock it up and shoot. A red laser makes AF lock ups in dark places a snap.
Check image's histogram after the shoot to gauge exposure. Learn how to read them. The image displayed on the cam's LCD viewer is not a reliable indicator for exposure.
https://luminous-l...anding-histograms/



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Using straighten tools will degrade the image. Always line up and square off the shot where applicable. Not doing so is one of the best ways to destroy what would have been a keeper.
Pro cam view finders are bigger and brighter. They make it easier. Using the cam's LCD might be easier.

First dial in your aperture setting, then exposure and adjust the ISO setting if needed. The correct exposure setting (shutter speed) is critical to capturing good images. I prefer using full manual and if I have the time. It's also a good way to learn more about your cam and digital photography.

Note the center of the lense height and the center where it is shooting. They need to be the same to square off a shot. Next line up the vertical edge closest to the cam, preferably on both sides if shooting flush head on. Get in the habit of doing this and it will become natural and take little effort. Find your AF point, lock it up and shoot. A red laser makes AF lock ups in dark places a snap.
Check image's histogram after the shoot to gauge exposure. Learn how to read them. The image displayed on the cam's LCD viewer is not a reliable indicator for exposure.
https://luminous-l...anding-histograms/


Thanks, I'll fool around with all this tomorrow in my backyard, appreciate the help. I've been trying to watch youtube videos to learn this stuff but I'm getting a real bad headache lol.




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Thanks, I'll fool around with all this tomorrow in my backyard, appreciate the help. I've been trying to watch youtube videos to learn this stuff but I'm getting a real bad headache lol.


Use mainstream photo sites.
https://luminous-l...anding-histograms/
http://m.dpreview.com/
http://www.canon.c...ints_and_tips_eos/
Lense blur charts to find the sharpest aperture setting for your lense.
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/index.php
It can be complicated but it gets more fun as you learn more and progress.

There's also WB cal, monitor cal, cam metering mod... practice first with the basics of developing an eye for good shots and getting the exposure right. What looks good to your eyes will not always look good as a image.

Start with the basics of learning how to shoot with no tripod. It's actually hard at first especially without an IS lense/cam. Heavier cams/lens are easier to free shoot with; more inertia. Just like shooting a gun how you hold the cam, your position, breathing, and smooth shutter release are needed.
Brace yourself on a wall, pole, etc. or better yet brace the cam (use a bush towel) on anything that's the right height. Otherwise take a wide stance, one foot slightly forward of the other, elbows in, take a breathe and hold it or slowly exhale before releasing the shutter. A smooth shutter release is imperative. If you think there's shake there probably is; take a breathe and shoot it again. Unfortunately cam shake is usually found only after the shoot.
Too many who shoot will tripods don't get the ideal shooting height. Constantly shooting at eye level is a bore. You can't street or action shoot effectively in many cases with a tripod. Shooting with one where it's not needed waste time and energy. Tripods are useful for low light and repeat shots like for HDRs.

Once you find a good subject, you need to be artistic and decide on the best shooting position, focal point, the 2/3rds rule, placing lines close to the corners, etc. This you need to read up on.

Unless shooting for effect generally you want to square off your shots. This takes practice but once you understand the concept it's not so hard. The cam is square to it's subject. Not angled up or down, not pointing more left than right. The height of the cam is the height of the whatever the center of the lense is pointed at. Harder to do on uneven terrain but easy in a room. Of coarse sometimes you will be shooting an angle to the subject: at least try to square up one side and get the cam height correct.





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Use mainstream photo sites.
https://luminous-l...anding-histograms/
http://m.dpreview.com/
http://www.canon.c...ints_and_tips_eos/
Lense blur charts to find the sharpest aperture setting for your lense.
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/index.php
It can be complicated but it gets more fun as you learn more and progress.

There's also WB cal, monitor cal, cam metering mod... practice first with the basics of developing an eye for good shots and getting the exposure right. What looks good to your eyes will not always look good as a image.

Start with the basics of learning how to shoot with no tripod. It's actually hard at first especially without an IS lense/cam. Heavier cams/lens are easier to free shoot with; more inertia. Just like shooting a gun how you hold the cam, your position, breathing, and smooth shutter release are needed.
Brace yourself on a wall, pole, etc. or better yet brace the cam (use a bush towel) on anything that's the right height. Otherwise take a wide stance, one foot slightly forward of the other, elbows in, take a breathe and hold it or slowly exhale before releasing the shutter. A smooth shutter release is imperative. If you think there's shake there probably is; take a breathe and shoot it again. Unfortunately cam shake is usually found only after the shoot.
Too many who shoot will tripods don't get the ideal shooting height. Constantly shooting at eye level is a bore. You can't street or action shoot effectively in many cases with a tripod. Shooting with one where it's not needed waste time and energy. Tripods are useful for low light and repeat shots like for HDRs.

Once you find a good subject, you need to be artistic and decide on the best shooting position, focal point, the 2/3rds rule, placing lines close to the corners, etc. This you need to read up on.

Unless shooting for effect generally you want to square off your shots. This takes practice but once you understand the concept it's not so hard. The cam is square to it's subject. Not angled up or down, not pointing more left than right. The height of the cam is the height of the whatever the center of the lense is pointed at. Harder to do on uneven terrain but easy in a room. Of coarse sometimes you will be shooting an angle to the subject: at least try to square up one side and get the cam height correct.




There's a lot more to it than I ever thought, still haven't even dived into lightroom or photoshop, or making videos. Thanks for the tips guys!




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There's a lot more to it than I ever thought, still haven't even dived into lightroom or photoshop, or making videos. Thanks for the tips guys!


What cam are you shooting with?
It's a fascinating art. The more you understand the cam technology and the digital photography principles, the more you can do.

The great thing is unlike film, digital shooting is cheap per shot. You also get instant feedback.
Bad thing is you need to back up your digital images. One virus can destroy everything. Best to use a dedicated data hdd + a OS hdd, and have at least 2 offline hdds backups. Best stored in a earth grounded metal box; near lightning strikes and strong magnets can destroy data.




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What cam are you shooting with?
It's a fascinating art. The more you understand the cam technology and the digital photography principles, the more you can do.

The great thing is unlike film, digital shooting is cheap per shot. You also get instant feedback.
Bad thing is you need to back up your digital images. One virus can destroy everything. Best to use a dedicated data hdd + a OS hdd, and have at least 2 offline hdds backups. Best stored in a earth grounded metal box; near lightning strikes and strong magnets can destroy data.



Canon t3i, and I upload anything worthy onto my facebook page, or flickr. Maybe eventually I'll get a backup device, but right now I wouldn't be losing much. Plus I don't use this laptop for much. Youtube and some forums really.




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Canon t3i, and I upload anything worthy onto my facebook page, or flickr. Maybe eventually I'll get a backup device, but right now I wouldn't be losing much. Plus I don't use this laptop for much. Youtube and some forums really.


Digital Photo Professional software should be in the Canon software bundle. This is a great app perfect for processing raws and jpegs. Easy to use, powerful and not a resource hog. Between this and Canon Zoom Browser you have everything you need for now as far as software.
DPP is all I would use. You can dial in a shot quick with it using a custom tone curve and it has many preset styles. It supports batch editing too.
Shooting in raw mode and using DPP allows you a lot more leeway when shooting and during processing. Read up on this and play with it.

For now anything important you could throw on a flash card or cloud store it, preferably both.




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Digital Photo Professional software should be in the Canon software bundle. This is a great app perfect for processing raws and jpegs. Easy to use, powerful and not a resource hog. Between this and Canon Zoom Browser you have everything you need for now as far as software.
DPP is all I would use. You can dial in a shot quick with it using a custom tone curve and it has many preset styles. It supports batch editing too.
Shooting in raw mode and using DPP allows you a lot more leeway when shooting and during processing. Read up on this and play with it.

For now anything important you could throw on a flash card or cloud store it, preferably both.



I don't have any of the software, bought the camera used and no cd port in laptop to use any of it. Already shooting in raw. I will backup to a usb, but if I lost it all I wouldn't sweat it, like I said it's already posted to my page.




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I don't have any of the software, bought the camera used and no cd port in laptop to use any of it. Already shooting in raw. I will backup to a usb, but if I lost it all I wouldn't sweat it, like I said it's already posted to my page.


Contact Canon or the seller... get that software somehow. Borrow it from someone... get it.
As for loading can't you use a USB plugin?




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Contact Canon or the seller... get that software somehow. Borrow it from someone... get it.
As for loading can't you use a USB plugin?


Is it really worth it? I have an adobe cc subscrip? Loading? Do you mean backing up?




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Is it really worth it? I have an adobe cc subscrip? Loading? Do you mean backing up?


It's my favorite image processing app. It's easier to use and is designed specifically for editing Canon raws by Canon. It would do the advanced photoshopping tricks Adobe will, but has all the features you need including lense distortion correction on supported Canon cams/lens. Never had DPP or ZB lose an image... both are worth it and free with Canon cams.

I meant a plug in CD reader to load apps or use another work around.




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It's my favorite image processing app. It's easier to use and is designed specifically for editing Canon raws by Canon. It would do the advanced photoshopping tricks Adobe will, but has all the features you need including lense distortion correction on supported Canon cams/lens. Never had DPP or ZB lose an image... both are worth it and free with Canon cams.

I meant a plug in CD reader to load apps or use another work around.



Ahhh Gotcha. Yeah I don't have one of those. I'll check around online for a downloadable copy.




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Ahhh Gotcha. Yeah I don't have one of those. I'll check around online for a downloadable copy.


Be careful, that's a good way to get a Trojan or a virus. I find a cd copy and do it that way...




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Be careful, that's a good way to get a Trojan or a virus. I find a cd copy and do it that way...


I found the disk but I dont have anything to convert it to use on my laptop, unfortunately I don't have a desktop anymore and my laptop doesn't have that cd port. Kinda broke so I can't buy a converter setup right now.




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I found the disk but I dont have anything to convert it to use on my laptop, unfortunately I don't have a desktop anymore and my laptop doesn't have that cd port. Kinda broke so I can't buy a converter setup right now.


I think you could get someone to rip it to a flash drive. Call Canon support, they may help.




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I have that issue here a little bit as well, Looks good though, maybe a little bit overexposed. I feel a lower ISO or tripod would help




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