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UER Forum > UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > First-Aid Links (Viewed 2570 times)
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First-Aid Links
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A Large section of links on what to do when somebody gets hurt. Many of these things can happen if you step on a nail, touch live wires, fall through a floor, fall through many floors, fall through many floors onto a nail or get bit by a snake or animal. No matter what injury treat for shock and get help, be it a first aid kit or an emergency medivac helicopter.

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056591 Animal Bites (Excluding Snakes)

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056681 Snake Bites

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056600 CPR

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056667 Chemical Burns

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056637 Choking

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056659 Corneal Abrasion (scratches on eyeball)

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056711 Minor Cuts and Scrapes

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056693 Dislocation

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056687 Electrical Burns

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056695 Electrical Shock

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056641 Fractures

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056626 Head Trauma

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056665 Puncture wounds

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056661 Severe Bleeding

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056620 Shock

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056677 Spinal Injury

http://www.mayocli...asics/art-20056649 Normal Burns

http://firstaid.ab...ng_Chest_Wound.htm Sucking Chest Wounds

http://firstaid.ab...at_Flail_Chest.htm Flail Chest







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Excellent reference.

I'd like to add: always tell someone you trust where you're going. If something happens, they'll know where to send help.

I often drop a pin on Google Maps and text it to a friend before I explore a new location.




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Excellent reference.

I'd like to add: always tell someone you trust where you're going. If something happens, they'll know where to send help.

I often drop a pin on Google Maps and text it to a friend before I explore a new location.


I rarely do. Never expect someone to save you, never. Learn to be self reliant in the field. For years I never carried a cell phone; they are a convenience and don't always work.

Knowing first aid is imperative. You should be able to handle a bleeder; a severe laceration is easy to do. Heat exhaustion is to be avoided and you need to know how to treat it promptly especially if the ambient temperature is high and no water, A/C is near. It can be fatal unless you dig in, cool down, and rest immediately.




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I rarely do. Never expect someone to save you, never. Learn to be self reliant in the field. For years I never carried a cell phone; they are a convenience and don't always work.


In practice I definitely do this - rarely tell anyone and never carry a cell phone. That being said, there are times when you really should tell someone - larger drains, tunnels, catacombs, anything out of state... it's not that you expect that person to rescue you, but then at least they know where to look for you if you go missing.

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Knowing first aid is imperative. You should be able to handle a bleeder; a severe laceration is easy to do. Heat exhaustion is to be avoided and you need to know how to treat it promptly especially if the ambient temperature is high and no water, A/C is near. It can be fatal unless you dig in, cool down, and rest immediately.


Amen. Cannot stress enough the importance of bringing enough water. Anyone who is serious about this hobby is also very well served getting proper first-aid training: it takes a weekend, but can save a life.




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I rarely do. Never expect someone to save you, never. Learn to be self reliant in the field. For years I never carried a cell phone; they are a convenience and don't always work.



Also great points. I would say "do whatever keeps you safe." Different strokes for different folks

I like to tell a friend and bring a phone because I find it helpful. But if it's a hinderance then, by all means, don't take it.

Mostly, I like to bring a phone because I witnessed a pretty terrible accident UrbExing when I was a teen and we didn't know the address or have phones. So I guess I'm a little overly-cautious.

But you have great points and I totally agree about learning first aid and being self-reliant. Well-put.




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I carry a well-stocked first aid kit in my vehicle. Some of the more useful components include:
  • Tape
  • Gloves
  • Alcohol swabs
  • Sharpie
  • Compressed gauze
  • Triangular bandage
  • Iodine
  • Salves, ointments, various meds
  • Forceps & hemostats
  • Dermabond
  • Band-aids & steri-strips
  • Israeli bandage
  • Scissors
  • CAT tourniquet
  • SAM splint
  • Nasopharyngeal tube & lube

Other items (if you know how to use them) include:
  • Sutures and stapler
  • Chest seal
  • Sterile scalpel
  • Stethoscope
  • Decompression needle
  • Compact BVM and oral airways
  • Nu-trake kit




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I carry a well-stocked first aid kit in my vehicle. Some of the more useful components include:
  • Tape
  • Gloves
  • Alcohol swabs
  • Sharpie
  • Compressed gauze
  • Triangular bandage
  • Iodine
  • Salves, ointments, various meds
  • Forceps & hemostats
  • Dermabond
  • Band-aids & steri-strips
  • Israeli bandage
  • Scissors
  • CAT tourniquet
  • SAM splint
  • Nasopharyngeal tube & lube

Other items (if you know how to use them) include:
  • Sutures and stapler
  • Chest seal
  • Sterile scalpel
  • Stethoscope
  • Decompression needle
  • Compact BVM and oral airways
  • Nu-trake kit



Holy crap what's your level of training? I'd much sooner carry and administer epinephrine than try to perform a field tracheostomy any day.




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Holy crap what's your level of training?


EMT-P.

Much of the stuff in the second list can cause more harm than good if you aren't trained. Even an EMT-B cannot administer epinephrine, at least in my state. You can probably get an EMT-B cert for around $700 and 8 weeks of time. Not cheap, but the courses are packed full of useful stuff.




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You can build a very basic and inexpensive kit with 2 rolls of compressed gauze, QuikClot, Israeli bandage, CAT tourniquet, SAM splint, naso tube, and tape. Lightweight, cheap, portable, and will cover most trauma excluding sucking chest wounds or a tension pneumo.

For reference, 1 package of compressed gauze (4 yards) will hold about a pint of blood. After two of those get used up and the Israeli bandage, the outlook becomes rather grim. That's roughly 4 pints of blood loss (40%) and hypovolemic shock is imminent.




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EMT-P.

Nice! You'd be a good person to go with any day! Do you work for a municipal EMS?

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Much of the stuff in the second list can cause more harm than good if you aren't trained.

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
You can build a very basic and inexpensive kit with 2 rolls of compressed gauze, QuikClot, Israeli bandage, CAT tourniquet, SAM splint, naso tube, and tape. Lightweight, cheap, portable, and will cover most trauma ...

+5 on the first thing here. I'd be very wary to go posting that people should carry this equipment without a big-ass disclaimer not to try to use it if not trained or well-practised. Even a tourniquet or naso tube can cause a lot of nasty complications if done improperly - the reality of most "urban" places in UE is that you're close enough to help that getting the pt stable until EMS arrives is good enough, and most people are even incompetent at that. Since you are EMS, that's an exception!

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... excluding sucking chest wounds or a tension pneumo.

Occlusive dressing and PPV should keep the pt alive long enough for better equipment to arrive.

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Even an EMT-B cannot administer epinephrine, at least in my state.

I'm in Canada (EMR), so the rules are a bit different here.

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
You can probably get an EMT-B cert for around $700 and 8 weeks of time. Not cheap, but the courses are packed full of useful stuff.

+10 Agreed completely. I think every serious explorer ought to get up to that or equivalent level of training.




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