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VAD
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| | | | Re: First-Aid Links < Reply # 3 on 1/22/2016 5:39 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by blackhawk I rarely do. Never expect someone to save you, never. Learn to be self reliant in the field. For years I never carried a cell phone; they are a convenience and don't always work.
| In practice I definitely do this - rarely tell anyone and never carry a cell phone. That being said, there are times when you really should tell someone - larger drains, tunnels, catacombs, anything out of state... it's not that you expect that person to rescue you, but then at least they know where to look for you if you go missing. Posted by blackhawk Knowing first aid is imperative. You should be able to handle a bleeder; a severe laceration is easy to do. Heat exhaustion is to be avoided and you need to know how to treat it promptly especially if the ambient temperature is high and no water, A/C is near. It can be fatal unless you dig in, cool down, and rest immediately.
| Amen. Cannot stress enough the importance of bringing enough water. Anyone who is serious about this hobby is also very well served getting proper first-aid training: it takes a weekend, but can save a life.
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| | | Re: First-Aid Links < Reply # 8 on 2/12/2016 8:51 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | You can build a very basic and inexpensive kit with 2 rolls of compressed gauze, QuikClot, Israeli bandage, CAT tourniquet, SAM splint, naso tube, and tape. Lightweight, cheap, portable, and will cover most trauma excluding sucking chest wounds or a tension pneumo. For reference, 1 package of compressed gauze (4 yards) will hold about a pint of blood. After two of those get used up and the Israeli bandage, the outlook becomes rather grim. That's roughly 4 pints of blood loss (40%) and hypovolemic shock is imminent.
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| | | | Re: First-Aid Links < Reply # 9 on 2/12/2016 11:56 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by WhiskeyPapa EMT-P.
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Nice! You'd be a good person to go with any day! Do you work for a municipal EMS? Posted by WhiskeyPapa Much of the stuff in the second list can cause more harm than good if you aren't trained.
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Posted by WhiskeyPapa You can build a very basic and inexpensive kit with 2 rolls of compressed gauze, QuikClot, Israeli bandage, CAT tourniquet, SAM splint, naso tube, and tape. Lightweight, cheap, portable, and will cover most trauma ...
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+5 on the first thing here. I'd be very wary to go posting that people should carry this equipment without a big-ass disclaimer not to try to use it if not trained or well-practised. Even a tourniquet or naso tube can cause a lot of nasty complications if done improperly - the reality of most "urban" places in UE is that you're close enough to help that getting the pt stable until EMS arrives is good enough, and most people are even incompetent at that. Since you are EMS, that's an exception! Posted by WhiskeyPapa ... excluding sucking chest wounds or a tension pneumo.
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Occlusive dressing and PPV should keep the pt alive long enough for better equipment to arrive. Posted by WhiskeyPapa Even an EMT-B cannot administer epinephrine, at least in my state.
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I'm in Canada (EMR), so the rules are a bit different here. Posted by WhiskeyPapa You can probably get an EMT-B cert for around $700 and 8 weeks of time. Not cheap, but the courses are packed full of useful stuff.
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+10 Agreed completely. I think every serious explorer ought to get up to that or equivalent level of training.
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