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UER Forum > Rookie Forum > I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything (Viewed 3113 times)
Excited Delirium 


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I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< on 4/2/2015 12:37 AM >

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(Soon to be) professional ticket writer here.

If you have any questions, I will be here to answer them.

I do not know the laws of every jurisdiction, but I know how to look at legislation.

I am fresh out of academy and am ready to take your questions.

Also, non LE related things, feel free to ask, I wasn't born a badge.




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 1 on 4/2/2015 1:01 AM >

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What did Jerm's tagging look like?




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 2 on 4/2/2015 1:42 AM >

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Oh, oh, oh, I have a few for you!

I have heard some people say that in certain states (Massachusetts in particular) there is no distinction between trespassing, and breaking and entering. So even if you just walked in an open door, or through an already broken window (and don't have intent to commit any further crimes while inside) you can still be charged with breaking and entering. I am skeptical of A. Whether this is actually true, and B. if it's actually true, is it really enforced this way in practice?

I've also heard that in South Carolina, before 6 PM, any truly abandoned building is considered "public property", and you can't be charged with trespassing. Is this true? Enforced this way in practice?

And I've heard that in Tennessee, exploring storm drains is actually legal, as they're considered "public waterways". Is this true? Enforced this way in practice?

Sorry for so many questions, I know you probably can't give definitive answers to all of them, but I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.

Also, just to clarify, so you're a new cop? I'm not familiar with the term "policy enforcement".




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 3 on 4/2/2015 1:46 AM >

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I know that in South Carolina you can still get shot

I was a fire warden for the state of SC. There is no time limit on trespassing.

But your intent is much more important. Most cops will let it pass long as you are not stripping copper.




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 4 on 4/2/2015 11:30 AM >

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Posted by DJ Craig
Oh, oh, oh, I have a few for you!

I have heard some people say that in certain states (Massachusetts in particular) there is no distinction between trespassing, and breaking and entering. So even if you just walked in an open door, or through an already broken window (and don't have intent to commit any further crimes while inside) you can still be charged with breaking and entering. I am skeptical of A. Whether this is actually true, and B. if it's actually true, is it really enforced this way in practice?

I've also heard that in South Carolina, before 6 PM, any truly abandoned building is considered "public property", and you can't be charged with trespassing. Is this true? Enforced this way in practice?

And I've heard that in Tennessee, exploring storm drains is actually legal, as they're considered "public waterways". Is this true? Enforced this way in practice?

Sorry for so many questions, I know you probably can't give definitive answers to all of them, but I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.

Also, just to clarify, so you're a new cop? I'm not familiar with the term "policy enforcement".


He's not a cop. He's a meter reader lol




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 5 on 4/2/2015 12:01 PM >

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Posted by Rinzler


He's not a cop. He's a meter reader lol



or he's a cop posing as a meter reader :o




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 6 on 4/2/2015 1:28 PM >

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Posted by Chris-Kicker


or he's a cop posing as a meter reader :o


Lol. Or he's a federale




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 7 on 4/2/2015 11:20 PM >

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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 8 on 4/2/2015 11:43 PM >

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Posted by Chris-Kicker


or he's a cop posing as a meter reader :o


Cop posing as a meter reader posing as an urban explorer. O.o




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 9 on 4/3/2015 1:47 AM >

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Posted by Harvestman
What did Jerm's tagging look like?


Stickers. Stickers everywhere.

Posted by DJ Craig
Oh, oh, oh, I have a few for you!

I have heard some people say that in certain states (Massachusetts in particular) there is no distinction between trespassing, and breaking and entering. So even if you just walked in an open door, or through an already broken window (and don't have intent to commit any further crimes while inside) you can still be charged with breaking and entering. I am skeptical of A. Whether this is actually true, and B. if it's actually true, is it really enforced this way in practice?

I've also heard that in South Carolina, before 6 PM, any truly abandoned building is considered "public property", and you can't be charged with trespassing. Is this true? Enforced this way in practice?

And I've heard that in Tennessee, exploring storm drains is actually legal, as they're considered "public waterways". Is this true? Enforced this way in practice?

Sorry for so many questions, I know you probably can't give definitive answers to all of them, but I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.

Also, just to clarify, so you're a new cop? I'm not familiar with the term "policy enforcement".


Uh... I'll get back to you. I am doing a few ride alongs and I am an auxiliary.

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Cop posing as a meter reader posing as an urban explorer. O.o


Yes, yes... I am a fellow kid. Hell0 dudez! How RU?





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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 10 on 4/3/2015 7:52 AM >

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I have one...

We're going to play a wonderful game called 'Who is your daddy, and what does he do?'

(I noticed your signature haha I couldn't resist)

But in all seriousness, I don't know if you have any insight into these;
Is it more up to the officer to decide whether to press charges, or is it up to the owner of the property?
How strong of a deterrent for a lazy officer is the paperwork for processing a trespassing citation? How about something more serious?
Is there much likelihood of an officer trumping up charges and arresting an explorer for B and E in order to pad his arrest resume?




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Excited Delirium 


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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 11 on 4/6/2015 4:20 PM >

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I just talked to the ADA and he does not want me giving advice online, he claims that could lead to people saying that they did things because Joe Friendly said it was legal.

I am in a position of authority and I need to be careful of what I say in an official manner.

My apologies, but I cannot do threads like these. I can only refer to resources.

Edit -- Can I get a lock on this?



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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 12 on 4/6/2015 5:29 PM >

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Well, this was a very helpful and informative thread!

Haha JK, I knew it was too good to be true. Thanks for the sentiment, anyway.




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 13 on 4/7/2015 2:16 AM >

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Well, I am not a cop (nor do I play one on TV), but studying about it. Since I do not have the same restrictions, might I step in and offer what advice I can?

Posted by LuminousAphid
I have one...

We're going to play a wonderful game called 'Who is your daddy, and what does he do?'

(I noticed your signature haha I couldn't resist)

But in all seriousness, I don't know if you have any insight into these;
Is it more up to the officer to decide whether to press charges, or is it up to the owner of the property?
How strong of a deterrent for a lazy officer is the paperwork for processing a trespassing citation? How about something more serious?
Is there much likelihood of an officer trumping up charges and arresting an explorer for B and E in order to pad his arrest resume?


To answer your questions:

1. Both can. The police have more discretion, but the owner can usually press them.

2. Paperwork is paperwork. If it is a minor offense, they'll likely let you off with a warning, depending on your attitude. Something more serious, or when a property owner calls, they'll more likely act, because they have the paperwork to do anyway.

3. The only reason a police officer may trump up the charges is for plea reasons. If it is not a strong case, they may use it to get you to plea. But it's still doubtful, because it's additional paperwork and more work to prove it.




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Re: I work in policy enforcement, feel free to ask me anything
< Reply # 14 on 4/8/2015 8:23 AM >

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the best way to not go to jail is to not be an asshole to the cops

if you're an asshole, you're going to jail

if not, you still might go to jail

if you know you're going anyway, may as well be an asshole if you think they deserve it (they probably do), but otherwise, show respect anyway and they'll usually just make you leave.

i've never gotten caught on private property though. i imagine the same applies. some people are just going to be a dick about it no matter what though. i don't trust people who live in suburban/middle class neighborhoods not to call the cops if they hear a deer breaking a branch on someone's lawn down the street.




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