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UER Forum > UE Main > Being a "professional" Does your career impact your UE? (Viewed 9773 times)
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Being a "professional" Does your career impact your UE?
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Thoughts?

Since becoming a registered psychotherapist I feel a bit more anxiety about exploring. As a teenager I didn't feel it mattered. Being a young university student I pretty much felt no threat to the little to no reputation or professional record I had. All the run-ins with security I had with security in groups and also alone or with my boyfriend went extremely smoothly thanks probably mostly to be being a young sweet looking girl. (Lots of times I would simply act confused and get wonderfully detailed instructions out of the place I was "lost" in, followed by a "have a good day, miss!"). Now, not so much. I'm in my mid 20s, have a "career", and I'm currently a government employee. Although I have confidence when I explore I'm pretty smart about it, I still feel the nagging that "I shouldn't be doing this/could I loose my job/etc" Will I be caught? What then? Does it matter?


What are your thoughts on this? I remember seeing a thread similar to this years ago but can't find it now. And some fresh discussion might be nice. Just wondering others' experiences of that shift from teenager with no responsibilities or title, to a professional of some kind, with possibly more to lose.




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I actually use my career to get permission for a lot of places now. I dont do as much illegal stuff as I used to, seeing how I dont want to lose my job if I do end up being arrested. Having certain types of careers and references will go a long way. It won't always work, but for the most part it does. For me anyway. What can do they if you ask? Say no? Then just go anyway. I used to not give a shit and would do anything, but now I kind of weigh my options to decide if it is still worth it or not. A career is a tad more important than this abandoned hospital down the street. Usually i'll try permission first, if it fails i'll sometimes just go anyway, depending how likely it is I can get in.




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I dont do as much illegal stuff as I used to, seeing how I dont want to lose my job if I do end up being arrested.


Yep, same. And I find I do the same type of decision making process - is it worth it, is it serious enough that I could risk losing my job, etc.






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I also work for the Government, and saying this I too share the same thoughts mountaintops.

When I was a kid I had no issues with concerns of a career, it made exploring real easy.

Now is a different story. I take calculated risks, and study my locations very well before hand, but there is always risk for sure.



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Nice to hear from a fellow gov employee, haha. Yeah, it just doesn't seem worth it now.

I'm waiting to hear from the ones of us that choose to not follow these societal norms and perhaps chose to not get jobs that would prevent them from exploring as freely as they want to. Or, just don't let their jobs dictate where they go.





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I'm a trucker. No fucks given. But I worry more about the expense of getting caught.




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My job allows me to be on the road for part of the day which if anything, helps in finding places. Unfortunately you can't just pull over in a company vehicle and begin exploring - so it means having to go back at a later date.

As for the 'professional' part of it, most of the other staff are curious about the hobby if anything. I've shown them pictures of the places I've been and they enjoy viewing them. The issue of trespass has never arisen, nor would it impact the job if I was caught. It's like a speeding ticket, pay and go.





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If anything, my career is helpful to my hobby. I'm starting to meet people who can get me into places that would have been extremely difficult before. I would only be in trouble at work if I committed a "crime of moral turpitude." In Ohio, at least, trespassing is not considered a crime of moral turpitude unless you're doing it with the intent of committing another crime. So as long as I don't break any other laws, I'm probably good.




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It definitely puts a damper on things. Even living in a large city, "professional" communities are pretty small and trespassing aside, I'd guarantee that most of my coworkers would find the concept of urbexing as quite strange.

I feel a bit more anxiety about it since leaving the public sector, as a lot of neat rural locations in my area are on land owned by competing companies.






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Nice to hear from a fellow gov employee, haha. Yeah, it just doesn't seem worth it now.

I'm waiting to hear from the ones of us that choose to not follow these societal norms and perhaps chose to not get jobs that would prevent them from exploring as freely as they want to. Or, just don't let their jobs dictate where they go.




Yeah, it's starts becoming additive. I have basically a bucket list, a hand full of tunnels I want to check out, more like killing me to check out!

You know what they say though.. get out while you're still ahead. Tonight I was supposed to go out, but I kind of want a "traditional" weekend for once lol.




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I am a little cautious because of this as well. Also because I live in NY and have a ccw permit. Basically they can revoke it if you blink funny.




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This is always on my mind. I'm 21 and currently a volunteer firefighter going through fire school. I'm looking to become a career firefighter and I'm always thinking if I get caught will it destroy my chances of reaching my career.




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most of the other staff are curious about the hobby if anything. I've shown them pictures of the places I've been and they enjoy viewing them.



I definitely find this with friends, coworkers, and acquaintances. There is a genuine interest that is not usually followed by negative comments or insinuations. Still though, like a lot have said, my job keeps me from doing a lot of more illegal UE.




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After starting working full-time, I've had less time to explore. Nowadays I try to make one trip per year to keep my certificates valid.

My co-workers know what I do but don't understand it.



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Although its always a consideration, it really hasnt stopped me from exploring much. The days of getting into places with active security are over but life is too short to have regrets.

I have explored quite a few times while on business trips in the past haha.




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My wife is a lawyer, and I own my own business.

For us its apples and oranges when it comes to this, I play things fast and loose, while she is as quiet as a mouse and super careful not to go to high risk places.


We always joke though that if we get busted at least ill know where to find my attorney lol.




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I used to work for the Korean government, and I signed a vaguely worded contract that said I couldnt say anything negative about the country, and was pretty certain if things went wrong then my UE stuff would be put in that context. Fortunately I made it out of that alive.




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Mike, that's pretty interesting, haha! I can relate to your wife's anxieties about this.


Steed, that sounds terrifying and I'm glad you're not in that situation anymore!!





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I am pretty much a retired explorer due to my profession. When I was running a large format department for a advertising agency for years it didn't really matter if I got locked up. Hell, my boss would have probably paid my bail to get me back to work.
Then I spent a few years self employed and it really didn't matter.

A few years ago I started a really good job and pretty much stopped exploring. I do not want to be put in the position of explaining to my employer why I got arrested and risk loosing the best job I've every had making the most money I've ever made. I also can't use my company car in the commission of a crime.
The risk to reward is simply not there.

Aside from this I have got into firearms and am a bit more careful about my transgressions as I do not want anything showing up on a NICS check that would prevent me from buying a new gun.

so I'm pretty much retired and lovin it.




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My current job is just a minimum-wage kind of thing, so I doubt there will be much risk of them caring what I do in my free time, provided I in no way involve the company name.

However, looking at future law enforcement positions, I worry about how getting caught could affect that.




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