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Re: Prosecution based on photo evidence only?
< Reply # 20 on 10/2/2014 3:17 PM >
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Sorry man but I'm going to either have to tell you respectfully you are ENTIRELY wrong or I got THAT dumbass DA because that is PRECISELY what is happening to me. Only evidence they have are digital copies obtained from the internet.


In Greenville, TX a jury of your "peers" is truly a miscarriage of justice. They will likely convict you even if all they are shown Crayola crayon sketches.

I hope you have a good attorney because he who acts as his own lawyer in court has a fool for a client.


ps. some DA will present YOU with evidence they would never take into court hoping you'll rollover and plea it down.




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< Reply # 21 on 10/2/2014 3:51 PM >
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well it's not for Gr*een*vil*le it's for T*E*R*R*E*L*L <- (excuse my new found paranoia) And the attorney i'm getting is trying to get it thrown out BEFORE it goes to court so it doesn't cost way more.




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< Reply # 22 on 10/2/2014 6:55 PM >
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the caption to the pic didnt help much....

"In a selfie taken in October, Susan Marinello playfully sticks her tongue out while posing in front of the boarded up Baker Hotel in Mineral Wells.

“Because Being Crazy isn’t enough. I want it all. And being in places I shouldn’t be makes me feel like I can do anything,” the caption reads in the self portrait. “This was one of my biggest #UrbexProjects. I climbed some exterior walls, Knocked down some wooden boards, climbed through broken glass, and I have the battle wounds to prove it. I’m Crazy, but sometimes that’s not even enough.”



from here: http://www.star-te...-in-the-baker.html




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Re: Prosecution based on photo evidence only?
< Reply # 23 on 10/2/2014 8:10 PM >
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"In a selfie taken in October, Susan Marinello playfully sticks her tongue out while posing in front of the boarded up Baker Hotel in Mineral Wells.

“Because Being Crazy isn’t enough. I want it all. And being in places I shouldn’t be makes me feel like I can do anything,” the caption reads in the self portrait. “This was one of my biggest #UrbexProjects. I climbed some exterior walls, Knocked down some wooden boards, climbed through broken glass, and I have the battle wounds to prove it. I’m Crazy, but sometimes that’s not even enough.”


I now understand the desire to prosecute her to the fullest extent of the law. And I don't even like the law.




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Re: Prosecution based on photo evidence only?
< Reply # 24 on 10/2/2014 9:37 PM >
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God awful! They didn't even put jelly on em!!! But the real crime there was the "milk" *grimaces*

And lol my truck got stolen.


Strict DIEt in jail, I see.

All jokes aside, I hope you recovered your truck in good condition :/




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Re: Prosecution based on photo evidence only?
< Reply # 25 on 10/3/2014 8:30 PM >
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I don't know anything about this because I love Obama and never pas a tress.

But I've heard that some people remove the EXIF info from whatever photos they publish electronically and are cautious about what they admit to in the photo captions. They claim this makes it difficult for investigators & prosecuting attorneys/district attorneys/assistant US attorneys to even roughly establish at least one fact necessary to establish probable cause that a crime has taken place -- "On or about (date), suspect(s) _____ did violate Penal Code ###..."



However, especially for some high-profile/sensitive sites (Freedom Towers, for example!), the photos or video themselves might be enough prima facie evidence necessary to obtain a search warrant for a suspect's camera, computer, & other hard drives where the original images with intact EXIF files may exist.

Once they have an exact or approximate date for the alleged crime, further investigative methods (site/area CCTV, cellphone tower logs, etc.) could help put together a pretty good case.



Hoolie: Thanks for weighing in. I think yours is the most comprehensive assessment of the different scenarios.

While being investigated by Special Agents from the Department of Transportation (DOT) Office of Investigations for adventures on certain ships
we came to the conclusion that everything we posted on the internet was circumstantial in nature based on the very pointed questions they asked us while being interoggated, such as:

When did you do it? - looking for a date and time to associate with the event
How did you get inside? - determining if we could get burglary charges
How did you get on the ships? - determining if we could get burglary charges
This was after we published the whole story online. I continually answered, "It's on the web, why are you asking?" I refused to give dates or even the year we did it and finally we said we would have no further discussions without our lawyer present.

Using internet photos as basis for a warrant to search your house, only to find the original photos with EXIF data/time stamp intact is a very sly approach that we haven't counted on as most agencies don't have the time or money to bother with it. It amazes me that NYC has the budget to invest in this lightweight illegal stuff when there is much heavier problems going on in the city.

I carefully remove all EXIF data from my original photographs so that even with a warrant, they won't find a date and time from me. On higher stakes adventures, I don't carry a cell phone.





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< Reply # 26 on 10/3/2014 11:43 PM >
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On higher stakes adventures, I don't carry a cell phone.


If you (or anyone else) want(s) to keep a cell around for emergency purposes without the possibility of incrimination, a few companies make pouches that block everything, including GPS.




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