Posted by CatAndTie I agree with Steed on this one... and maybe this is because it's a male dominated activity, but I see more positive "beautiful" reactions to females in abandonments, or bridges, etc. When a dude gets naked and poses it normally is more "comically" or "funny."

Well, the dark side to that is that often the girls who pose naked or provocatively or whatever get put under a microscope and people will dissect their appearance. Even Kim Miru received a lot of judgement about her body shape. I don't believe I've ever heard a male body being analysed in pictures on here, other than maybe discussion about that dick inside that skull.

Posted by Radical_Ed I don't see sexism in the groups I encounter, myself. It's usually help the woman boost herself in the window, give the woman your spare flashlight if she forgets hers or her batteries die, open any and all doors for the woman, build a junk bridge over puddles in case the gal isn't wearing waterproof hikers, give her a pack of pocket Kleenex in case she has to go to the bathroom, open all beers before handing them out, inquire if the gal is hungry or thirsty, make sure she's not going first or last in the line of explorers and refrain from jokes about her ass, watch what you say and don't be disrespectful... Come to think of it, they're usually treated like diamond-studded gold when encountered in my experiences. CHIVALRY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sexism

I treat women bluntly, make fun of them, get pissed if they cannot pull their own weight, look down on them if they need help doing basic things or come unprepared. I treat them that way because that is how I treat everybody.

Treating them nice would be sexist. ;)

Posted by Soldat I'm just so tired of this bullshit about how sexist everything is. Ranger the fuck up everybody.

^-This

We live in a society where women sell. They might think a catback is bringing a lost feline home, but they still sell cars.


They might think a socket set is two power outlets, but they still sell tools.



And they most certainly sell beer...



I usually go for chicken wings and a beer every week. Even though the restaurant is cold, the waitresses are all wearing short skirts. I'm pretty sure this isn't because they are working in a high temperature environment but rather to serve as eye candy for their clientelle (better tips too).

Even though there's zero chance of a relationship with the waitress, because she's texting her boyfriend when she's behind the bar, we'll (society) smile and compliment her, make a few sexist comments when she's out of earshot and tip her graciously. But then we always go home - alone.

The marketing is likely designed by a male, but these women are not being made to dress this way - someone pays them to dress this way.

And let's not forget when a woman or two wants to go exploring, don't they usually feel safer in the company of a male? Is that sexist?

Sure, the original article didn't need to focus on the breasts of the explorer but this is the society we live in. Some women might be offended that men act this way but to be honest some men are offended that they are perceived as being so gullable and easily swayed. I tip for the service not the eye candy. I buy a technical magazine for the content not because of the cleavage on the cover. I order an extra drink if I'm thirsty not because your shirt has the top two buttons undone.

Sexism is alive and well in all aspects of life, not just urbex articles. The more you're aware of it, the more you'll save your money. It's a financial gain thing and for the most part the men are the fools parting with their money.

Posted by A Through Z Explorations Which honestly, that's the first thing I look at in both sexes. I want to explore with someone that can either run in front of me, or next to me and won't become a chew toy for the German Sheperd. When I know it's a female I'll be urbexing with, I think to myself "Awesome, she's doing the sweet talking if we get caught by authorities." ha-ha. Keep it up, ladies, don't let anyone intimidate you, especially someone with twice your size and strength. We can all stand to learn something from each other.

Will do I'm happy with all the male support for us ladies, you guys rock and make UER that much better for explorers of all genders and the like. Keep it up.

Posted by AtticAddict Here’s my question: Why the provocative explorer gear? It’s intriguing that usually when women appear in urbex pictures, they are posing and exposing. I am perplexed by this since what I wear while exploring is purely utilitarian: aimed at coverage and protection against the elements. No way in hell I’m bothering with hair & makeup. And my mind is certainly too busy watching out for danger, scoping out the next cool shot and watching where I’m placing my feet to bother with voguing.

Well, everyone does things differently. I can't vouch for who wears/does what for explores; but I don't think what you wear or how you act while exploring makes you less of an explorer. Most people would disagree with me on my choice, but I often like tow ear tank tops and shorts with combat boots. I get overheated really easily, and it makes me feel like I can move around faster and quicker and I don't mind getting scratched up. As for make up, again, it's someone's choice. Some people don't like leaving the house without makeup just like some can't leave the house without hiking boots. I know I love to wear red lipstick, not any real reason why other than I want to. And it's yet to get me busted or, heaven forbid, make me not focus on danger or taking cool shots or watching where I'm going.

I really do think we should just stop saying what is and isn't sexist and just suck it up. Again, if a guy can't see a female explorer as an equal that's his loss. If a girl can't do the same with a male explorer, that's her loss. People are going to make uncalled for comments and jokes of the opposite sex, it's just kinda how life is and you can get super upset about it or you can just ignore it and do what you do best.

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Posted by jonrev Reminds me of this gem... http://seeingdixie.wordpress.com/

That's an interesting take on a mall. I haven't thought of a mall as gendered but it makes sense. I know malls were created for the burgeoning automobile culture in the US, so I'm not sure how the came to be gendered other than women tend to shop?

Posted by jonrev Reminds me of this gem... http://seeingdixie.wordpress.com/

Dumb as hell.

I don't know, maybe I'm too old to care any more. Or maybe it's just that I'm too hard headed to pay attention to it. I just decide what I want to do, then go ahead and do it. I don't pay attention to sex, color, race, or any other such nonsense.

My interest is more in mine exploring than pure UE, but the mine exploring community has been VERY supportive of me (and from observation, other women explorers as well). I don't mean condescending or misogynistic, but genuinely supportive. Did I have to "prove" myself? Yeah, but so does every other new explorer regardless of anatomy. Not to sound overly dramatic, but we have to trust each other with our lives. Incompetent or stupid behavior can get people killed. Trust is developed over time, not simply bestowed upon someone based on genetics.

Do the guys like to get away sometimes to drink and cuss and fart and tell dirty jokes? Yeah. But that's their choice. Do I sometimes crimp their style? Probably. On the other hand, I try not to have thin skin. If you don't like someone's attitude towards you, don't explore with them. Or give them the evil eye. I've been told that I can give the death stare.

- Ignore the jerks
- Hang with people who have similar values and attitudes
- Define yourself, don't let others define you
- Get out and explore

Abby Normal

Yeah I found those write ups for the articles about the chick walking out on the ledge pretty tasteless. It's like, we already know that, thats the only reason doing something not terribly uncommon in the rooftopping community has blown up like this, so keep your pervy comments to yourself.

We all know that there are way more men than women on UER, and Therrin's been banned for like a year so we can't keep saying that its like that because he scares all the women away.

I definitely think its harder to be a female explorer, so I actually probably respect the ladies' exploring abilities more so than my fellow mans'. And when I think about, with how lolzily inept my father is with making certain decisions I just naturally listen to what women tell me lol.

And with the nude thing, all I know is if I possed nude exploring and you guys where looking at it, you'd be in jail.

Lastly, I too, have been limited by my...uh...body...when it comes to urban exploring....I was attempting to backwards crawl through a small gap under a large fence. The one thing that stopped me was disproportionately large ass...
After much effort and discomfort I got my ass under the fence I immediately just decided to just start crawling back for risk that I wouldn't be able to get out fast enough without tearing my ass to shreds if the caretaker arrived.

Around here, girl explorers are treated the same as the guys. They are also expected to perform on the same level as the guys (climbing, crawling, dealing with the elements, etc). Most are pretty bad ass and are up for the task.

Posted by Dayman Lastly, I too, have been limited by my...uh...body...when it comes to urban exploring....

We call that "SRS" around here (Short Round Syndrome), or just say you're polie (pronounced PóE-Lee) challenged.

Ive encountered more females exploring than males around me, and they seem pretty capable!

Results matter. Not what's swinging or not swinging between your legs. End of story.