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Re: any tips for urbex camera settings??
< Reply # 20 on 4/9/2014 2:20 AM >
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The best thing you can learn about photographing abandoned buildings is.. STAY AWAY FROM HDR, the autotune of the photographic world


I don't know why, but I feel that you stole the words from an important topic I posted in another forum: "HDR/ Tone mapping = The Auto-Tune of Photography"

No hard feelings though.. This is that kinda shit where you just gotta spread the love no matter what.




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The best thing you can learn about photographing abandoned buildings is.. STAY AWAY FROM HDR, the autotune of the photographic world


Most of all, if you want to create pictures that are truly a reflection of who you are, don't always listen to other people's opinions of what they think is good and what they think isn't. While other people's advice can help you make achieve the results you want, don't let them keep you from exploring your own camera and your own shooting habits. Just keep shooting until you get the results you want, and all you need is practice! Best of luck with your new camera!




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I don't know why, but I feel that you stole the words from an important topic I posted in another forum: "HDR/ Tone mapping = The Auto-Tune of Photography"

No hard feelings though.. This is that kinda shit where you just gotta spread the love no matter what.



It's a funny analogy, but also very wrong in a lot of ways. Most people conveniently forget that HDR can be used minimally with great results simply because they want to jump on the "bash HDR" train.




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It's a funny analogy, but also very wrong in a lot of ways. Most people conveniently forget that HDR can be used minimally with great results simply because they want to jump on the "bash HDR" train.


Most people are on the bash the HDR train because most of the HDR seen out there is absolutely eye bleedeingly bad! When done right it can look fantastic.




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Most people are on the bash the HDR train because most of the HDR seen out there is absolutely eye bleedeingly bad! When done right it can look fantastic.


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Most people are on the bash the HDR train because most of the HDR seen out there is absolutely eye bleedeingly bad! When done right it can look fantastic.



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I guess it comes down to weather you are trying to create photographs, or digital art. Done well or poorly HDR (to me) is a cheesy gimmick for people who struggle to create interesting photographs.

As for the other poster claim to that auto-tune reference, I don't read this board enough any longer to have ever read anything you have posted. So i won't pat you on the back, sorry. I have used it several times on this site however, under an older name. Maybe you got it from me

As for the original poster. There are no "default camera settings good for UE" thats like saying where are the best settings on your microwave for food.. there is a lot of food out there and a lot of variables in lighting conditions that will constantly force you to change your settings. Read some books on photo. Google stuff. People on here don't know anything.




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Also, great camera choice.. i had the x-pro 1 with a 14 you will love the fuji lenses.




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Done well or poorly HDR (to me) is a cheesy gimmick for people who struggle to create interesting photographs.

No...Done poorly it looks like crap. If you use it properly it's a technique that adjusts for an overall balance of exposure...the best method is bracket and blend. Where not all 3 images are merged but you take the proper exposures from each for the part you need right. Example, you get the church interior exposed right but the windows are blown out, so your next exposure, you expose for the windows...then in photoshop you take the church interior and layer in just the windows from the other shot..




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Gee thanks for the photo lesson, after taking a look at your photos i can see how you would be a really credible source.. kinda like a fat girl telling someone they need to go on a diet.. laughable.



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Okay there champ. I was simply pointing out the fact that it isn't a cheesy gimmick but a technique used in photography. Full out clown vomit HDR is crap, proper technique can yield very good results.




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Okay there champ. I was simply pointing out the fact that it isn't a cheesy gimmick but a technique used in photography. Full out clown vomit HDR is crap, proper technique can yield very good results.


I kind of agree with you HDR photos even done well seem way to fake for me. But I am more of a traditionalist myself. I I'm also not a big fan of light paint. I m not necessarily talking to any one person here its just my general views. If anyone what's the slam me for my comments its cool I left myself open to it lol.




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HDR and bracketing to me while similar are still different techniques. HDR fuses all 3,5,7 images into 1 while bracketing and blending is more specific, only altering sections of the photo that need it. To each their own though, if you don't like it fine, but it's not a reason to think you're king shit. Film, digital, processing is always done, just in different ways.




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HDR and bracketing to me while similar are still different techniques. HDR fuses all 3,5,7 images into 1 while bracketing and blending is more specific, only altering sections of the photo that need it. To each their own though, if you don't like it fine, but it's not a reason to think you're king shit. Film, digital, processing is always done, just in different ways.


Never said I was king shit in fact you will find I am probably one of the easiest going on these boards. I was simply joining in on the convo. If you rather not have me express my opinions on a open forum fine then.




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Wasn't referring to you ;)




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Done well or poorly HDR (to me) is a cheesy gimmick for people who struggle to create interesting photographs.

No...Done poorly it looks like crap. If you use it properly it's a technique that adjusts for an overall balance of exposure...the best method is bracket and blend. Where not all 3 images are merged but you take the proper exposures from each for the part you need right. Example, you get the church interior exposed right but the windows are blown out, so your next exposure, you expose for the windows...then in photoshop you take the church interior and layer in just the windows from the other shot..


It also helps to create photos which are more closely aligned with the human eye's sensitivity to light. People can say it looks fake all day long, but if used properly, the final results look more like real life than a camera's default ability to capture it.




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It also helps to create photos which are more closely aligned with the human eye's sensitivity to light. People can say it looks fake all day long, but if used properly, the final results look more like real life than a camera's default ability to capture it.


After seeing your HDR you should be the last person to say how it looks.




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After seeing your HDR you should be the last person to say how it looks.


I'm sure this is how you feel right about now. I bet you can't wait to tell all the other neckbeards about your epic exploits.




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It also helps to create photos which are more closely aligned with the human eye's sensitivity to light.



Again, not creating a photo. A photo is created in camera, period. The only manipulations that can really be applied via digital dark room that don't discount this are the same basic adjustments that could be applied in a conventional dark room. What you are doing is snapping a bunch of pictures and letting a computer decide what looks "correct". It should be looked at as some sort of digital art form. Not photography. When you have learned and mastered the use of your camera and its capabilities and used those skills to produce an image worthy of standing alone, then it is a photograph. By your logic if use a computer program to create a song with no knowledge of how to appropriately play the instrument, then I must be a musician. Im not trying to hate on you personally, but what you're saying just does not really make sense.




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