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Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
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Hi!
I was wondering who all has any interesting artifacts from the psych?

A guy gave me two things after a quick visit at the psych;

1) a flower clip on earring-looks like something from the 70s;
2) a badge-of an Assistant Shift Engineer and the expirary date is December 1991 (I know, not all that old, but still...)
3)Patient Advocate Office card-"Your advocate will listen to you and help you explain your problems to hospital staff. She or he will help you negotiate solutions based on your instructions" ....

Does anyone else have some finds?




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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
< Reply # 1 on 5/24/2004 6:04 PM >
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I doubt it. "Leave only footprints, take only pictures."

Ring a bell?




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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
< Reply # 2 on 5/25/2004 4:54 AM >
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I have a few books and stuff a few sheets of paper, a fire extinguisher...ummm i think thats it..oh and bulliten board.




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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
< Reply # 3 on 8/23/2004 12:09 AM >
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Nellie and Reuban:

On behalf of all UE'ers and others who plan to visit and explore WPH, thanks for diminishing the enjoyment of future excursions.

To you both - if the artifact was worthy of the effort to take, it was just as worthy to leave behind for others to also view.

Hope you're both proud of yourselves.


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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
< Reply # 4 on 8/23/2004 1:41 PM >
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Yes you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Far better that you leave the things there to be broken, destroyed or taken by someone else.

Shame on you!

-= We all have differing ethics =-

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< Reply # 5 on 8/24/2004 3:09 PM >
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Even I was tempted to take a sheet of blank letterhead out of a large pile, but resisted, and left it there in the same pile with the others, for others to find, photograph & leave untouched.

Take only pictures, leave only footprints.




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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
< Reply # 6 on 8/24/2004 4:52 PM >
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I don't take anything from sites.. I don't mind if someone takes a peice of paper though.. It's people like Reuben who steal fire extinguishers
(sp?) that anger me...




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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
< Reply # 7 on 8/24/2004 7:39 PM >
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Do you know how many artifacts are left over from Lennox Castle hospital ?

None.

A museam had an appeal a year or two ago to find some for a display... No joy.

Now, want to know something ? I gave them a laundry basket with the Lennox Logo on it.

Know why ? Because I took it last time I was there - and saved it from the bulldozer and the skip.

So in fact I preserved a piece of history.

Which is why if I know it's gonna get binned I would have no probs taking a wee something - it's the responsibilty of the hospital to CLEAR anything usefull out - I wander around asylums and hospitals and the NHS have left so much... And whine about being underfunded...

Makes me sick.

However - when on private property (Abandoned house, private buildings, etc etc) it's hands off - someone could be back for that stuff... maybe.

Just my rules, yours may vary.

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We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit.
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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
< Reply # 8 on 8/31/2004 4:03 AM >
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Do you know how many artifacts are left over from Lennox Castle hospital ?

None.

A museam had an appeal a year or two ago to find some for a display... No joy.

Now, want to know something ? I gave them a laundry basket with the Lennox Logo on it.

Know why ? Because I took it last time I was there - and saved it from the bulldozer and the skip.

So in fact I preserved a piece of history.


You're right...everyone's rules may vary. And it would be an exercise in futility to sway one or another. This topic's been covered time and again in many threads here.

However...

When you take something from a location with the intention of preserving it as an artifact, you've essentially become somewhat of a 'historian' rather than just an explorer who leaves only footprints. In my mind, the two are mutually exclusive.

I go to places to explore, photograph and document what exists at the moment I discover it. Not with a specimen bag to drop items in to.

If genuine, certified historians want to preserve artifacts from a site, they should obtain permission to retrieve them before demolition. I don't call wandering in to a place and plucking out items "preservation of history".

Its looting.

There is no land or buildings in the public domain (at least that I know of). Somewhere...somebody owns the property. Any property in Canada that's not owned by private individuals or companies is deemed 'Crown land'. Therefore the items contained on that property technically belong to the land owner, even if they aren't secured by locks, fences or whatnot.

Anyways, I'm not arguing the point. Just stating a personal opinion here. You do what you do...and I do what I do. I'm merely elaborating on the way I view it all.

The theme song in my head would run the line, "Let it be..."


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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
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All good points Silent.

Except just to clarify one thing; the NHS is the UK is the National Health Service or England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. It manditorally funded by every UK national with a deduction from salary / income. With that in mind, it's MY NHS and EVERYONE'S NHS.

So when I wander through an asylum that has been left for the bulldozer fully equipped ?? While an operational hospital down the road is being closed due to 'underfunding' ???

My blood boils and I think anything there is fair game - I and my fellow citizens PAID for this stuff for it to be used - not to be WASTED by IDIOT managers and politicians.

Anyways... That's a bit political but you get my drift!!

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We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit.
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Re: Have you got any artifacts from the psych?
< Reply # 10 on 9/2/2004 11:20 PM >
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My blood boils and I think anything there is fair game - I and my fellow citizens PAID for this stuff for it to be used - not to be WASTED by IDIOT managers and politicians.



Likewise, a good point made there as well. I think a LOT of people's blood boils when they see bureaucratic wastage.

Doesn't change my outlook, of course....but its a valid point nonetheless.


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Hey Its none of my business and I really dont care but I think your drama queens. Tell me whats so wrong with that. Were you planning on say going to the psych to admire that fire extingisher reuban took. Do you think it wouldve been usefull If a fire started there. Wah wah what bad did it do to take anything like that. Taking some huge pecie of historical evidence eg; a machine or somthing, may of mattered. But whats one good reason to get your panties in a bunch over a fire extingisher that wouldve been demolished eventually?




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It's the principle of it all. Six words - TAKE ONLY PICTURES, LEAVE ONLY FOOTPRINTS.

Thats it. Period. It clearly draws the line at what you take - NOTHING.




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I do see where you are coming from but what is one good reason for that rule. Nobody ever takes anything they know people will have interest in seeing or will make a huge deal.




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It's the principle of it all. Six words - TAKE ONLY PICTURES, LEAVE ONLY FOOTPRINTS.

Thats it. Period. It clearly draws the line at what you take - NOTHING.


Assuming you subscribe to this ethic. I do not, and view myself (as others view me) as an ethical UE'r.

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We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit.
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I didnt 100% understand that, mabey you could explain what your saying?




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I didnt 100% understand that, mabey you could explain what your saying?


You mean my post ? Sure!

What I mean is the 'leave only footprints take only photos' ethic I find a touch melodramatic.. I'll take the odd small thing now and again, slip of paper, old keyring etc etc That kind of thing.

I won't take ANYTHING from a site that is someones abondoned house or small business... As at any time someone could be back for that stuff. Large hospitals, huge factorys etc etc... Well, if you wanted to keep it - clear it out first.

These are my ethics... We all have our own.

I don't think it's fair to call someone 'unethical' simply because they don't subscribe ridgidly to the 'leave only etc etc' motto.

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The only artifacts I have from the psych are the clipboard I used when I worked there, possibly the map I was issued during my training (hoped it wasn't tossed during spring cleaning) and my old uniform shirt (minus the crests). Hope I'm not boring you folks.








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Yes turbo that is a very good point. But like you I have my own ethics as well. I myself have never took anything from a site, seeing as how I have been UE'ing for long, but IM saying I just dont think its cool to jump up someones back because they took a fire extinguisher that clearly had no use. She took it from an abandoned site which noone lives at or uses anymore. Plainly and simply who cares if you take a stupid useless fire extinguisher. I just think who cares if you take something noone else will have no want in seeing or looking at so Im just sticking up for reuben whom I think didnt do anything bad.




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I Got an Exit sign from the office tower thing on the corner and a light globe from a utilities building. If its going to be torn down at least save somthing!




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