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Asbestos E-Liquid 


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I like concrete. It’s either already collapsed or perfectly safe

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Urbexing Safety
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Recently I found an industrial location with a metal staircase that leads to a catwalk about a story up in the air. Is there any way I can tell that’s it’s sturdy? And furthermore, what precautions do you take when exploring a location?




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Recently I found an industrial location with a metal staircase that leads to a catwalk about a story up in the air. Is there any way I can tell that’s it’s sturdy? And furthermore, what precautions do you take when exploring a location?


Most of time it will depend on what is the metal the stairs are made of.

Cast iron will last forever before being rusted tru so for that check how is it holding to the bulding.

Normal mild steel stairs are commonly rusting way faster.

The steps can still be there but whats holding the steps (the angles on each side under it) will be one of the first thing to rust bad enough that it can't support the weight of the steps or the person on it anymore.

Just look at the anchor points and support points, what are their integrity.

If you don't know metals and are not familiar with sructural stuff...maybe don't try it.

If it's still there there is a good chance you can take it but always remember to have 3 support point always, so hold on to the rails with both hands in case someting give, walk with your feet as close to the side possible.

If you want, send me a picture in PM if you got one and ill tell you what i think of it.


When walking on a roof or a floor that i dont trust i could go tru, i walk with bot arm extended so if i fall my arm will stop me, or well... i will have more chance to not go tru and cath myself.

It's just a matter of inspecting what you are walking on and be aware.



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< Reply # 2 on 3/22/2020 3:03 AM >
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Try it... if it doesn't collapse, it's sort of safe.

http://www.uer.ca/...=1&threadid=122644

There's no other way to be sure.
If it seems like a bad idea it probably is. Read the above thread.



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Since I'm familiar with the place you're speaking of...


Keep your feet close to the string and not in the middle of the tread. That will help in the instance you encounter a bad tread.


Catwalks are hit an miss. If it's purely a walkway, be wary. if the catwalk is built to carry something besides foot traffic like a pipeline or conveyor belt, it's probably fairly sturdy because it's carrying far less than it was designed for.

Look out for missing pieces of the deck. Pull on the railing and see how sturdy it feels.




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Since I'm familiar with the place you're speaking of...

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Keep your feet close to the string and not in the middle of the tread. That will help in the instance you encounter a bad tread.

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Catwalks are hit an miss. If it's purely a walkway, be wary. if the catwalk is built to carry something besides foot traffic like a pipeline or conveyor belt, it's probably fairly sturdy because it's carrying far less than it was designed for.

Look out for missing pieces of the deck. Pull on the railing and see how sturdy it feels.


If it's this place, it seems in fairly good condition.

I'd say, kick the first steps really hard and shake the handrails to see if it's sturdy.

Move further and do this method for each steps or part that looks different or in a least better shape.

If it's not rusted generaly, it should be fine.

It seems they cut the stairs with acetylene torch.



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what could go wrong?

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Recently I found an industrial location with a metal staircase that leads to a catwalk about a story up in the air. Is there any way I can tell that’s it’s sturdy? And furthermore, what precautions do you take when exploring a location?


Usually *most* metal is safe.

You kind of could tell by how burnt out and thoroughly explored a location is.

Like everyone else was saying, your best bet is to hold onto something nearby to what you’re going up, whether it may be a handrail, a rod, the wall, etc...




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I have to say that I live by a motto of "if in doubt don't" when it comes to serious injury or loss of life.

I will take a chance when it comes to getting caught, or scared because of darkness and adrenaline.

There is a distinct difference between the two. One I could get arrested, charged and suffer some social consequence. The other, well......

I have a daughter who is 14, we do exploration and I am very willing to be scared and take chances. You have to categorize them, all chances are not made equal.

My rules are not the same as other peoples, you have to come up with your own boundaries.

I don't take chances with my health and safety. I do take social chances.

Some might argue that urban exploration has inherent danger. I agree with that. So does driving to work, we each have to draw our own line.

A staircase that might collapse? I would simply not take the chance. The inherent knowledge of when to trust a structural element of a building? If you cant do that you need to seriously look at the choices you are making and perhaps educate yourself. Ask questions like these is good.

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Asbestos E-Liquid 


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I like concrete. It’s either already collapsed or perfectly safe

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Indeed I am, good sir




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I like concrete. It’s either already collapsed or perfectly safe

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If it's this place, it seems in fairly good condition.

I'd say, kick the first steps really hard and shake the handrails to see if it's sturdy.

Move further and do this method for each steps or part that looks different or in a least better shape.

If it's not rusted generaly, it should be fine.

It seems they cut the stairs with acetylene torch.

I visited it recently, and will post the photos soon. It was weird. It seemed partially demolished, and I’m not sure if anyone will finish the job.




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why does this matter




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why does this matter


I thought the same thing. Such a pointless thing to say.

"Oh.... you're not 18 yet. Okay well we will give you the REAL advice then"




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Indeed I am, good sir


No offense meant, just sayin,

If you fall off a catwalk because an adult on the Internet told you how to get hurt.

Case law exists look it up.




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Lately I have been struggling with paying attention to where I am stepping. The past couple days my ankle has been pretty darn sore from stepping on rocks repeatedly due to not paying attention. Tip to avoid doing what I have done is not to look at your phone while walking! Especially on terrain that you know is not flat. Perhaps common sense. But despite me knowing the cause of my ankle soreness I find myself too tempted to play on my phone while walking especially in and out of locations.

PS I am only 24 years old though so maybe when I am 30 I will choose to do what's safe over binge in my screen/media addiction. Haha.




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Radio2600 


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I visited it recently, and will post the photos soon. It was weird. It seemed partially demolished, and I’m not sure if anyone will finish the job.


The backstory on that place is that the current owner bought it on the sheriff's auction in 2005 for the price of unpaid, back taxes and started demolishing it to harvest scrap iron.

When the price of scrap iron tanked in 2008, it was no longer worth the effort to continue scrapping the iron and there it sits.

Wait for the price of scrap iron to come back up.




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Thinklikefreak, stop completely to use phone if at all.
Start wearing high top laced boots before you blow your ankle out.
They will also help it heal, lace them tight...



Posted by Natchraz


Usually *most* metal is safe.




Steel is completely unforgiving.

It can become slippery as ice (especially if painted) with just a little moisture.
Expect broken bones or worse if you fall on it or it collapses.
It or the anchor bolts attaching can fail with no warning whatsoever.
Sections can be found unexpectedly missing.
UER members have come close to and have been killed on steel, including myself.

Never play on steel.
It demands your complete attention and best judgement at all times.



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I have another safety tip that I am not sure how many times it has been mentioned in the 17 almost 18 year history of the forum. My guess is its been mentioned a hundred times.

Okay If you guys give me 10 dollars over paypal I will send you a link to the brochure with the tip.

Okay I changed my mind I will give it to you guys for free.

Okay wear loose pants when exploring. Wearing tight pants my least favorite combination my grey Urban Stars "Premium apparel with my Columbia rain pants over them are a groin killing combination. Also I have found that when I where to tight of pants and climbed I have strained my groins many times. Same thing can happen with the upper body if wearing to tight of sweaters/jackets.

So basically in short form

When climbing or maneuvering in tight spaces wear loose clothing.




Asbestos E-Liquid 


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I like concrete. It’s either already collapsed or perfectly safe

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No offense meant, just sayin,

If you fall off a catwalk because an adult on the Internet told you how to get hurt.

Case law exists look it up.


Don’t worry man, I didn’t get offended.




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If you fall off a catwalk because an adult on the Internet told you how to get hurt.



First:

No one is telling him to do anything. As a reasonable person, someone asked for advice in determining whether a structure is safe or not. General advice is not instruction to do anything in particular.

Second:

Any type of exploring is inherently dangerous. There have been numerous experienced explorers that have had serious and sometimes fatal injuries while exploring. Places that are abandoned are often condemned and in many cases, declared to be unsafe structures by the local government.

Third:

The case law on this deals with things like the cinnamon and Tide Pod challenges where the challengee did not meet the requirements of the reasonable person test and the challenger was negligent in not providing fair warning of the inherent dangers of such challenge AND the challengee was unable to determine that the challenger was not acting in good faith.

This is all in regard to Iowa and Iowa will grant a driver's license to 16 year old. Ergo, a 16 year old is regarded as a reasonable person in Iowa.




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Theres at least 90000 p.i. attorneys in the U.S. maybe a couple in Iowa I don't know.

Go ahead tell the kid how to climb or walk across the scary steel structure. Everyone will think youre an expert. A helpful expert.

No need to tell me we all break the law here Hell I paid entrance fees to gain permission and guided visits to all the locations Ive posted

edit: most p.i. attorneys are pretty smart, they got people looking u CDM laws and health and safety codes all day long.



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