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UER Forum > Rookie Forum > What To Do If You Find Something Bad? (Viewed 178 times)
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What To Do If You Find Something Bad?
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Ok so I was wondering what ya'll would do if you found something major illegal in an explore, like a dead body or something super bad. We're technically trespassers, so would we get in trouble for calling the police? And it would compromise the location, but also what if they think you did it? I'm just curious to see what you guys would think.




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Re: What To Do If You Find Something Bad?
< Reply # 1 on 11/6/2018 5:04 PM >
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I dont think keeping locations a secret would be a top priority in any situation like this.




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< Reply # 2 on 11/6/2018 5:20 PM >
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< Reply # 3 on 11/6/2018 5:47 PM >
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Depends on just how bad it it. Human corpse? Anonymously report it to the police, giving their family closure is more important than keeping a location secret. Additionally, anything that presents a threat to public safety would be anonymously reported- severely damaged drains, explosives, and extremely hazardous chemicals are all things that should get anonymously reported.

Anything less serious is just something to walk away from.




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Depends on just how bad it it. Human corpse? Anonymously report it to the police, giving their family closure is more important than keeping a location secret. Additionally, anything that presents a threat to public safety would be anonymously reported- severely damaged drains, explosives, and extremely hazardous chemicals are all things that should get anonymously reported.

Anything less serious is just something to walk away from.


Anonymously? No. Man up.
For active crimes tell them who you are and what you know real time.
Fires, arcing HV lines same thing.
Bodies same thing.
Most LEOs will appreciate the help and not charge you*.
On active military sites; you better get the fuck out most riki-tick.
What were you thinking?

As for chemicals, explosives whatever, walk away.
Don't be a fucking kill joy.
Anonymously, lol, you may discover there's no such thing except in your mind.
Don't dime yourself out for nothing.


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Kinda bad? Find a working pay phone and call it in. Really bad? Like dead body bad? Cop to your own shit and just call it in. Might be a fellow explorer gone missing




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*blackhawk assumes no responsibility if it all goes fubar and pukes all over you because of your lack of wherewithal, bad timing, or god awful bad luck.


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Blackhawk - "Not an Expert". I think that is disclaimer enough, and a good lawyer can work with that..... ;)




That title was forced on me and not fucking appreciated.
Unlike many here I do have experience reporting both active and latent crimes to state police and FBI.




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Anonymously? No. Man up.
For active crimes tell them who you are and what you know real time.
Fires, arcing HV lines same thing.
Bodies same thing.
Most LEOs will appreciate the help and not charge you*.


Depending on the sensitivity of the location, being charged is a risk I'd wager most of us are unwilling to take, at least for reporting something that isn't time sensitive like a body. A fire or arcing HV lines, on the other hand, are something you can plausibly see from the edge of the property in most cases, so you don't have to report it anonymously if you just say you saw it from the street.

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As for chemicals, explosives whatever, walk away.
Don't be a fucking kill joy.


Depends on the chemical. If it's a massive leaking petroleum tank right next to a creek, you bet that needs to be reported- oil spills can devastate the local ecosystem. By that same token, some industrial sites may contain hazardous chemicals if the owners didn't properly clean up after themselves, paper mills being an easy example. Most chemicals you can walk away from, but there are some that are dangerous enough that it's too risky to leave them to rot.

Lastly, explosives may be rare, but it's not unheard of to find old dynamite sticks in mine shafts, or hand grenades in the abandoned home of a souvenir- taking veteran. If you leave it, maybe it'll be fine and never detonate- or maybe some kids will sneak inside the house to goof off and not recognize the danger. It's up to you if you're willing to live with that possibility.





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Aran, LEOs aren't concerned with a misdemeanor trespassing when you're reporting a felony crime.
Not IDing yourself hinders them and the investigation as well as calling attention to yourself.

If you play with the EPA a bit you'll find out first hand why my chemical advice is sound.
Unless it's a huge spill... and they will soon be aware of it anyway if it's in a waterway.
One of the first things they do at a superfund site is turn in into a parking lot.
Not much left to then, huh?




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That title was forced on me and not fucking appreciated.
Unlike many here I do have experience reporting both active and latent crimes to state police and FBI.


Didn't realize the bold titles were "assigned". I wouldn't have poked, had I known. Sincerely sorry!






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Didn't realize the bold titles were "assigned". I wouldn't have poked, had I known. Sincerely sorry!





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It depends. Human remains? Call the police. Don't worry about anonymity, you're not going to get charged. Explosives, particularly old explosives? Report it anonymously. Chemical spills depending on the size I probably wouldn't bother with unless it was a very recently abandoned or operational facility. If it's an active site and you see a spill I'd call the company and report it.

Chances are the most dangerous things you'll find are dilapidated buildings and possibly old chemicals. Caution is always advised when exploring.




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I always carry a can of petrol (or as the Americans call it, gasoline) so if I find something bad I can simply set fire to the location and walk away. Problem solved!




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