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Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1839 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: Explorer etiquette < Reply # 2 on 4/15/2019 8:23 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Basically don't be an idiot or a dick. Don't steal things, vandalize things, endanger yourself/others, draw attention, publicize information given in confidence, or be an asshole and you'll probably get along well with most members of the urbex community. As for age, it doesn't really matter in my experience unless you're a minor. Urban explorers come from all ages, backgrounds, and walks of life. It's only really an issue when someone is under 18, because bringing minors exploring greatly ups the legal risk factor for everybody else involved.
| "Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there. |
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| | | | Re: Explorer etiquette < Reply # 4 on 4/15/2019 3:53 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | My pet peeve are newbies posting trash or one site pic* threads in the Main forum that should be in the Rookies, Regional or Photography forums. If you're going to post a thread on the Main forum it better be damn good and of general interest to the community. If you splore alone there's only one person to worry about screwing up. The people I've explored with were never an issue. & Pics or it never happened... *Here's one thread that should have been posted on the Main forum: https://www.uer.ca...=1&threadid=130229
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| Abby Normal
Location: Las Vegas Gender: Female Total Likes: 843 likes
| | | | Re: Explorer etiquette < Reply # 8 on 4/16/2019 2:40 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by EI_CEO_CFT To be more specific, upon meeting new explorers is there anything that peeves you that you would recommend rookies to avoid when meeting others for the first time? For example, many moons ago when I was trying to get a couple of pals into the hobby, we were in a very public place and they were very vocal about our plans for later that evening and had nearly attracted attention of a LEO standing nearby. Of course I doubt that it would not have been his top priority to send the whole department to guard a shack on the outskirts of town to prevent some teenagers from taking photos, but I'm glad they didn't confront us nonetheless. Followup, is age an issue? I read on another urban exploring resource that the average age of explorer is late 20s to early 40s - would you generally be bothered by exploring with an 18-25 year old, depending on if their maturity level?
| In film making there is a philosophy of "show, don't tell". In exploring that translates to letting your skills do the talking. I get turned off when someone talks themselves up, but then can't back it up with their actual skills. Sure, we all like to tell war stories about our favorite or most memorable explores. But there's always "that guy" that has done it all, or at least will tell you he has. Mine exploring is pretty gear intensive so it's usually pretty easy to see how comfortable the new guy is when assembling his rig. You can also tell a lot by looking at the brands and condition of his gear. So in short, check the ego at the door. Abby Normal
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| | | Re: Explorer etiquette < Reply # 18 on 4/19/2019 11:27 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | I think we can all relate to this in one way or another - what with Explorer Unknown, Abby Normal, Blackhawk, 2Explorations, and Apollo Mey's posts. It's like the old adage "if you're strong, you won't need to tell others, others will tell you". Of course you still always hear people bragging about how strong they are, not talking in earnest interest of their hobby but just bragging. If you were to take everyone at face value, it'd be scary how easy it is to breach government facilities when it seems every fresh explorer is pulling it off and back before dinnertime. I've always found it more decent and respectable when someone just says "I'm not experienced, but I'd like to learn more and get better with time". That sounds like a mature person and someone who would be a responsible and trustworthy partner on future sites. I really think its a matter of respect for the activity, too, that makes a deciding factor in if you should bring someone. When I was in grade school just getting into it, I thought since I'd grown up with these friends and have the same morals and rough baseline personality traits, that it would be okay to bring them to a site. "If we all have a great deal of respect for each other, it shouldn't be a problem". Theres a big difference between respect for each other and respect for the activity, I'd later learn. "Keep it quiet and don't tell anyone else because it could get the place sealed up and also destroy its merit as a time capsule of sorts" doesn't sound as good as "throwing a big party" to people who didn't grow up with the same love of urban exploring as you did. Posted by blackhawk Photos can be documentary style. Although a squared off shot is generally easier to view, any pic is helpful. Words only go so far.
| Solid advice, I sincerely wish I could tell me younger self to not dismiss my fears of a particular site being demolished soon as irrational, because it seems they always leave right when you're ready to go back. I remember thinking "this [Godawful] shakeycam footage is fine, I'll come back to take real photos some other time." When you account for having a year left to go somewhere, either again or for the first time, it'll always leave this world in eleven months and twenty some odd days, and if you didn't appreciate it properly when it was around you'll have no photos to look back on and properly appreciate it later. Wow, didn't mean for this post to run on for so long, sorry for the wall of text
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